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railerobotics 17-02-2010 22:34

pic: Team 935's Chassis
 

Steven Sigley 17-02-2010 22:37

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It's not gonna crumple if a robot falls on it right? Plus why the 80-20?

I do like the triangular and circular cutouts but it seems like too much was taken out.

Is there an arm?

How much does it weigh?

Very interesting.

FlyingHedgeHog 17-02-2010 23:12

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... How many CIMS is that? I think it might be over 5, and you're only allowed 5...

EricH 17-02-2010 23:16

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I only see 4 CIMs, all on the drivebase. I also see a window motor in the far back corner.

FlyingHedgeHog 17-02-2010 23:18

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Oh, I see. Sorry, these hours must really be getting to me. :D

Hawiian Cadder 17-02-2010 23:46

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nice, a low mecanum robot that climbs, i wanted to do something like that but with non driven omni wheels, hope to see you compete

p8blr 18-02-2010 00:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Sigley (Post 922562)
It's not gonna crumple if a robot falls on it right?

I wouldn't worry about that too much, it's been a robust concept since 2006.

http://team935.com/media.php?photos

Andrew Bates 18-02-2010 00:02

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Why did you CNC so much? I only ask because to me it would make more sense to build a separate upper frame instead of extending the CNC so high up.

Akash Rastogi 18-02-2010 00:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by corpralchee (Post 922648)
Why did you CNC so much? I only ask because to me it would make more sense to build a separate upper frame instead of extending the CNC so high up.

The last three posts of this thread pose similar questions and comments. Left unanswered to curious minds.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/34715

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Sigley (Post 922562)
It's not gonna crumple if a robot falls on it right? Plus why the 80-20?

I do like the triangular and circular cutouts but it seems like too much was taken out.

Is there an arm?

How much does it weigh?

Very interesting.

Their triangular pattern is very strong. Even with pocketing, the pattern plus the fact that it is quarter-inch 6061 allows their frame to be very rigid and strong. It will not "crumple."

mjazzka 18-02-2010 00:06

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Hmm, VERY interesting. It appears to me that when your robot is flat on the ground (like it is now) the middle four, non-mecanum wheels, are off the ground? So that would mean that they are only for getting over the bump. At least, it LOOKS like the axis of the shafts are not the same (see below).

http://s950.photobucket.com/albums/a...a.jpg&newest=1

Other than that, I am curious to see how ya'll elevate/score, I can't tell from the photo...

Good luck this year!


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Brandon Holley 18-02-2010 00:21

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To go along with some of the other comments here...

Where the bumper zone is on your robot appears to be the weakest area in terms of structure, at least from what I can tell from these pictures. We build our drivetrains (among other things) in a very similar manner as you guys. We use 1/4" aluminum plates, and use round standoffs to hold them together. This is what you have done in your drive system, but above the drive system there does not appear to be any standoffs. Seeing as this is where the bumpers will be, and thus most of your interaction with other robots will be, are you concerned about bending in that area?

Also, was that milled or waterjetted? If it was milled, I'd love to see some pictures of it in process if you have any.

-Brando

IndySam 18-02-2010 00:25

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I think that is a work of art.

Are you planning on using shims for attaching bumper? Your gonna have to do something to make those wheel bearings and screws legal.

J_Beth 18-02-2010 00:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by corpralchee (Post 922648)
Why did you CNC so much? I only ask because to me it would make more sense to build a separate upper frame instead of extending the CNC so high up.

well, wouldn't it make more sense to make it out of one part instead of having multiple parts that could break, and have to be made with close enough tolerances to fit together.

p8blr 18-02-2010 01:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven Sigley (Post 922562)
It's not gonna crumple if a robot falls on it right?.

I wouldn't worry about that too much, it has proven to be a light, yet robust way of creating a custom chassis to the parts our bots require. Four years running with this design, and no structural failures yet.

http://team935.com/media.php?photos

mjazzka 18-02-2010 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Beth (Post 922678)
well, wouldn't it make more sense to make it out of one part instead of having multiple parts that could break, and have to be made with close enough tolerances to fit together.

In SOME things that is true, but a whole robot? If this frame got hit hard (which it will), there is a good chance that it would bend. You cant replace a bent part of a robot that is one giant piece. Unless you have infinite quantities of those plates! And besides, building the robot with good ol' nuts and bolts is fun!

J_Beth 18-02-2010 23:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mjazzka (Post 923265)
In SOME things that is true, but a whole robot? If this frame got hit hard (which it will), there is a good chance that it would bend. You cant replace a bent part of a robot that is one giant piece. Unless you have infinite quantities of those plates! And besides, building the robot with good ol' nuts and bolts is fun!

Well, having been apart of this team for several years, we have never had a problem with getting our robot bent. And yes we have abused them, a lot! We are very proud of our plates, and they were completely designed by students to have low weight, but still retain their strength. We have the front and back plates made out of 3/8 aluminum, and the sides are 1/4 inch with braces that connect the two sets. So, there are also no shortage of good ol' nuts and bolts on this robot, so you don't have to worry about that.

Steven Sigley 19-02-2010 11:23

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I'm still wondering why there's 80-20.


You have such a nice light chassis then all that weight in your kicker.

mjazzka 20-02-2010 00:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Beth (Post 923586)
Well, having been apart of this team for several years, we have never had a problem with getting our robot bent. And yes we have abused them, a lot! We are very proud of our plates, and they were completely designed by students to have low weight, but still retain their strength. We have the front and back plates made out of 3/8 aluminum, and the sides are 1/4 inch with braces that connect the two sets. So, there are also no shortage of good ol' nuts and bolts on this robot, so you don't have to worry about that.

Ah, well it sounds like you have a plan! 3/8 should work lol...If you say so, I'm sure it will be just fine! And about the wheels, are the middle four just for going over bumps? We never got clarified i don't think...

Akash Rastogi 20-02-2010 00:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mjazzka (Post 924363)
Ah, well it sounds like you have a plan! 3/8 should work lol...If you say so, I'm sure it will be just fine! And about the wheels, are the middle four just for going over bumps? We never got clarified i don't think...

Actually, it is not just b/c they say so, it is because they are good at engineering. Read this again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 922652)

Their triangular pattern is very strong. Even with pocketing, the pattern plus the fact that it is quarter-inch 6061 allows their frame to be very rigid and strong. It will not "crumple."


Condescending tones don't sound that great when discussing teams' designs by the way.


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