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I heard there was supposed to be a webcast of the Suffield Showdown but so far when I click on the link on 230's page I get a black screen.
Is there still a webcast or has there been a change in plans?

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Ah! Just came on!
Thanks guys!

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Thanks for the reminder... Forgot that this event was going to be webcasted..

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Link for webcast - http://www.shsrobotics.org/webcast.html

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Ugh...I'm not sure I'm ready for the Cupid Shuffle yet....:p

Since as far as I can tell, there isn't any other thread on this event, might as well make this the one for comments about what's going on.

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Any esitmated time of start?

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Practice rounds beginning shortly (10:12 AM)

http://aceshigh176.org/ss-scrimmage?start=4

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okay, for some reason the link isn't working for me.

I'm on I.E. and i just get a "internet explorer cannot display the webpage"

any ideas on whats wrong?
any and all helpful responses are appreciated!! thank you!

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They need to regulate the traffic in front of the cameras better so the field crew and photographers stop blocking them from the view of the field.

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Yes,
The first few matches had a lot of traffic in front of the cameras..

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copy webcast URL, open windows media player, "file" "open url" paste URL into box, watch webcast

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When is this event running until?

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1-0.
This game is more like soccer than I thought it would be.
I was hoping for more scoring than this.

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I just opened the webcast, but the sound isn't working for me? Maybe it's me, I'm on a lab computer and not my personal one, while at a 229 meeting.

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Disappointed in this progress by teams. Very low scoring and I'm not sure why teams chose not to hang. I know it's early and hope things change in the next few weeks.

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So it's ok to slam teams over onto their side like that?
Atlanta is gonna be 2007 all over again if that's the case.

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Well...........stuck here at work and catching the webcast in between things.

Some observations:

As noted earlier by Koko Ed the scores are much lower than I expected. This may change as the weeks progress during the Regionals.

Teams finding it difficult to get the balls off the field perimeter walls and the player station walls. Just banging into them doesn't really work to well.

I'm pleasantly surprised at the ability to score from the far zone during Autonomous mode. Saw it happen a couple of times.

Hanging looks to be a good strategy, surprised that more are not trying. I also expect this to change as the weeks progress.

Alliance selections underway now..............................

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The funny thing is it was their own alliance partner that did it :eek:

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Well that would explain the lack of penalties.

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Supprised also at the number of penalties. I hope the next few weeks things get better

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For the first time in six years I don't have a robot to build, and I sleep through the scrimmage! I've got terrible luck. :o

That said, these sound like the things that usually happen at the scrimmage. Scores are typically low, as if FRC teams are good at just one thing, it's usually vastly overestimating how many points will be scored by the winning alliance in an FRC game.

I can't remember a game with balls that they didn't get jammed up on the sides, and lining up with one scoring object is notoriously difficult (i.e. hurdling in 2008, and that ball was *a lot* bigger).

I am pleasantly surprised with long distance scoring autonomous scoring. Sounds like the GDC may have hit their stride again with exciting autonomous modes (seems to alternate years, i.e. exciting autonomous in 2006, 2008, and 2010?).

Did anyone record a couple of matches? I'd love to watch 'em now that I'm awake... :o

At any rate, I can't wait to see things play out at BAE in just two weekends!

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i was there at the beginning of the day, and when i took a stroll down the pits there was only about 4 robots that had the capability of hanging... the only one to successfully hang was Gael Hawks (230)... which they did successfully twice... so don't go bashing other teams because they didn't preform like the way you thought... i was just surprised that that many teams were using Mecanum wheels

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I got to walk around quite a bit today in the Shakedown pits. I noticed quite a few robots with the capability of hanging, but only GaelHawks got to put that ability to use. Our team had the ability to hang, and it was actually our only reliable mechanism. But, in both rounds that we made it to the field, we lost 2 chains on our articulating drivetrain, which isn't completely ironed out. Our kicker still needs fine tuning and didn't get much use at all.

Overall, MOST of the teams had very very short robots, with 4 mecanum wheels and flappers of some kind for a kicking mechanism. There were also quite a few teams that had a some sort of omni wheels, or swerve drive. I did see a few of the final matches, and there was a LOT of pushing, and usually all 6 robots would end up in the middle and 1 of the 2 end zones. I did not see robots in all 3 zones very often. Pushing and blocking, as well as quick movement were KEY to success for a lot of teams.

I'd say that during most of the matches, 4 out of the 6 teams on the field were low robots, with mecanum, swerve, or omni drive, and NO elevating capability. Almost every robot had a kicker though, and it seemed that the key to success in scoring balls was to having a possessing mechanism, as well as knowing the capabilities and strengths of your kicker. For example, Team 178 had a kicker that was best at herding a ball up to a goal, and then just whacking it in. Then there were teams like 230 who would shoot from the far zone in autonomous, and they were pretty accurate with getting their shots in or near the goal on the other side of the field. A team must know their robot's abilities, and adjust their strategy accordingly.

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Did anyone record that? we've been busy over here and were not able to catch the whole scrimage THANX :)

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What James Temple said is true. I was FTA at the Shakedown today. If Gaelhawks keeps it up, they will go all the way, at least in the Northeast. As usual, there were some robots that were fine looking machines. There were also some plain bots that did very well with the basics. My suggestion to all is no matter how plain or fancy your robot is, learns how to drive it & make instant decisions!. If you can't control your robot & make changes instantly, (meaning in 1 second or less), someone will take advantage to either block you, your ball or your climbing ability. I have seen this over & over.

But by all means have fun doing it. You will get farther by keeping a cool head & leave the temper tantrums at home.

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I hope some vids of this scrimmage appear somewhere soon....

Anyways, here's a little bit of the action from the Duel in the Desert in the Phoenix area

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRrpdyTkowc

(not my video)

There were two lifting robots....

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Was this recorded for those of us who built during the scrimmage?

Trying to Help

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yes and to show people around the world how the game is played and developed... there is only a few preseanon competitions and this gives people a preview of what the season is going to be like

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I think the person was asking if matches were taped and going to be posted online somewhere for viewing now that the event has ended.

I think it's more likely that the scrimmage gives people a preview of what the season is going to be like in Week 1. It looked exactly like a game played by many teams still tweaking (and building) their robot systems.

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oh...ok thats my bad... yes i do agree with you because many teams didn't have their drivetrains fully working properly... many teams are using swerve drive and mecanum wheels and didn't know what to expect and properly drive them... if you noticed that most of the rookie teams drove the best because they are using the standard drivetrain from the KOP and had the best results... i think by week 3 or 4 that all the teams will be at their best stage and will have been able to master their drivetrains to the utmost perfection

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One of our Video Operators forgot to hit the record button!!! But we got a few matches. I will try to get some posted in the next day or two.

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Like I was saying, I am very surprised at the extremely low number of scoring robots. Last years robot was much more difficult to design and build and the practice scrimmages had a much higher number of robots scoring.
As far as hanging, again I'm surprised at how many did not attempt it.

Lets see what the regionals bring....Time will tell.

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here is a link to a video posed of the high scoring match from the Suffield Scrimmage... it shows the Gaelhawks (230) scoring 2 during autonomous and hanging at the end of the match. Sorry I dont have more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc68qauEo5o