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That robot looks awesome! Great job!

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Net response from 229:

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT????!!!!!


wow unbelievably impressive

I wish we were going to a regional with you guys

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The biggest compliment I can give is that I am frightened to ever see you in competition.
:)
Awesome job!

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very nice robot wish we were competing with you

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Wow, looks great. I think I owe someone an apology.

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After about a minute drool started pouring from my open mouth onto the keyboard. Not only does 148 ALWAYS have a very functional robot, they ALWAYS have something innovative, and they ALWAYS have something very pleasing to the eye. Excellent job on the robot, guys. Cant wait to take a peak at Armadillo in Atlanta.

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Marvelous. :cool:

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Sweet Jesus.

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Man, that bot is beautiful! But a life size doll of JVN, really? :p

Looking good!:)

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Beautiful job, team 148 should be proud!

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You kind of are in week 1 .... :)

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As always that robot looks absolutely amazing

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good luck then:cool:


(memories of 2005 are coming to mind...cough *division by chicken* cough::ouch:: )

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DIVISION BY CHICKEN!!!!

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You should have seen how much my jaw just dropped. A fabulous robot as always; well done 148!

Now, where's 217's? :P

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absolutely amazing :ahh::ahh::ahh:

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holy.....

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I look forward to seeing y'all in Dallas AND Houston. I hope we match up with y'all and not against y'all like last year.

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sorry dude the holy cows are another team ;);)

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When we saw the robot flip up on the tower like that in the video we completely freaked!

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this is why im glad your in Texas and im in Michigan.. very nice. good luck:D

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I hope to see y'all in 'lanta.

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WOW, amazing that looks so sweet

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Very very cool as usual.

Its a good thing there were no refs to catch the penalty at 2:29sih, though :)

703 from 2007 may not longer be the coolest 14 wheeled robot.

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The Robowranglers are going to be quite a draw in the pit area this year - as always. It's going to be great!

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I dont think that matters.

Paul lives in Texas and last time I checked, he's still with the ThunderChickens.

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Exactly my thoughts.......................................... ....................254/968??

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So, I will take the bait.

I see you experimenting with rollers, I don't see the ball rolling in the video when you hold it...

I didn't see a pic of experimenting with suction (at least not obviously), but the ball is behaving like it is sucked in place.

So what are you using to hold the ball, and how did you adapt it so that you could hold the ball in place in (what looks like) the entire width of the front of your robot?

Great design. Nice work.

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I dont know what to think about our robot now :yikes:

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I have to agree with Kressly on this one. Sweet Jesus.

148 knows how to build their bots down there in Greenville and this year is clearly no exception. I bet this bot is quite successful this season, and guess what, rumor has it that they have improvements already planned.

Be afraid everyone, be very afraid.

Grats to everyone at RoboWranglers for putting out yet another quality bot. Everyone should strive to achieve the quality of build that 148 is known for.

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sweet mother... that is very very impressive...

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Excuse me while I go change my pants!

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Considering 148 isn't attending FLR does that mean 148 and 217 have twins :confused:

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Naw, that would never happen.

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never say never :rolleyes:

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Hmmm its like I've already seen this robot before....Who designed these parts Paul? Because that seems very complicated for a couple of students.

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If you want to call a team out at least have the guts to use your name and team number instead of a fake account.

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I am in love and scared to death of that thing. Looks like it eats small children. Props for the articulating drive.

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pfft...thats it? I thought you guys would come up with something a little more impressive... ;)


Seriously though, what an impressive feat of engineering. Can you elaborate on the drive setup?

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Another amazing creation by the Robowranglers. These guys are by far the best team in FIRST at creating highly competitive robots that look like something that you would see on a showroom floor. I had the opportunity to spend a week with these guys during the build season and was blown away by how well this team functioned. Everyone knows about their all-star mentor base, but they also have some of the most ingenious students that I have ever met in this program. It's neat to see the "final" versions of the prototypes that I saw being work on in week 2. (In fact a couple of these prototypes had significant influence on the 2010 1114 robot.)

Congratulations on an amazing machine. I can't wait to see it in Atlanta and maybe even sooner...

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Don't forget the memorable alliance of 217 and 229 from 2005.

Now who were those two mentors again...? :rolleyes:

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Well, if you want to go there and reveal yourself I can put you in contact with high school senior Charles Wensel and high school senior Parker Francis who designed the initial prototype Nonadrive and 50 - 60 percent of the robot you see in the video. Team 148 and 217 have the exact same philosophy when it comes to FRC: Students work along side engineers. Not all student done, not all engineer done, but completed together.


Your ignorance just makes me laugh and your cowardly way of creating a fake account makes me sad for you. I would like to know: how many high school students have you inspired in the last 10 years? I bet it doesn't come even close to the number that I have inspired. I usually hold my tongue in these cases, but morons like you just push my buttons.

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Since you guys are right down the road from Caddo Mills Airport where Armadillo Aerospace does their thing, do you ever have any interaction with them?

Nice robot too! :)

EDIT: After watching this video a few more times, I think that this may be the year that one robot can carry 2 BLTs... Wowsers!

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NEVER Underestimate a student...

Forgot to mention; THAT BOT IS KILLER! i dont wanna go up against it :) which I probably wont, but i feel bad for whoever does! The lifter is SWEEEEET! and I am also extremely curious as to how you hold those balls so well?! Is it classified? or will you spill the beans :)

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Common Paul tell us how you really feel.


But seriously you have not only inspired students but also fellow mentors who in turn have inspired other students so your influence is exponential.

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and 254...

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I agree with Paul Copioli, if engineers aren't working with students side by side the students are not getting INSPIRED to be science and technology heros. This robonerd17 guy should not underestimate the minds of students either.

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Something tells me that 148, 217, 254, and 1114 all have a little something in common this year... :cool:

Is this the year that team IFI blows all competition out of the water?

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Very impressive kicking accuracy and elevating abilities.

Hope to play with you guys at the Championships!

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team IFI always blows everyone out of the water lol

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Wow..... that looks really impressive! and it has underglow to boot!

Great job guys, i can't wait to see it in a real match!

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The best keep getting better. Well done guys.

-dave

p.s. and after watching Parker in action myself over the summer, I will echo Samir's earlier comment - never underestimate a student!


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I am very scared to see the bright green version of this in 1.5 weeks.

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WOW.

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Expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive expletive

You guys are expletive amazing. I haven't "Wow'd" for a robot like that (nor has my bro was was in FRC 10 years ago) in all my 4 years.

Holy expletive

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It's actually very simple. Any team can do it.
The secret is.... 3 weeks of prototyping! ;)

-John

PS - For anyone who followed my build journal on facebook, the ball magnet is the "System #5" I kept cursing during week 2 and 3.

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Heh, I wouldn't count your Chickens...maybe it won't be bright green; there have been a few years when the only green on 217's bot was the bumpers (going from memory, 2008, at least?), and THAT obviously won't happen this year.

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THANK YOU 148!

For not posting an odd, out of focus, random, or otherwise not-really-a-teaser teaser. The teaser here is in trying to figure out how this thing works, and it has some kick $@#$@#$@# music to boot. Looks great, hope to see you in Atlanta!

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Most of these parts were designed by students. They are very complicated. What does that tell you about the students?

I'm so proud of our "kids" I could just explode.

-John

PS - I think you need a hug.

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Wow, just wow.

First off great video, of course its somewhat easier when you have such great material to work with.

The drive-train is spiffy as heck, (congrats to John, Paul, Parker, Charles, and the rest of 148), and whats even more impressive than the drive set up is the amount of omni-directional control you appear to have, which with that kind of mechanical set up is very impressive.

The kicker looks simple, powerful and effective.

The hanger looks like one of the few I've seen that looks like it should work in 5 seconds or less

And the very "mysterious" ball magnet looks far more effective than anything I've seen to date in teasers, or in person at the Suffield scrimmage.


I can't wait for the tour at champs, you guys have raised the bar again.

The only real issue that I can see is that she really just won't look the same with blue bumpers :-(

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Shucks, John deserves a heck of a lot for that one!

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I guess jealousy breeds contempt.

Anyway, another clean design from the 'Wranglers. Can't wait to see it in action in Dallas.

Love the pictures using VEX stuff to do the prototyping.

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The reason you're receiving all these aggressive replies from mentors is not because they're trying to defend themselves, but because they're trying to defend their students. Your comment isn't hurting Paul or the other Robowrangler advisors, but insulting the students' capability to create such a fantastic robot.

Please think twice before letting your frustration spill out.

@148: What a beast. Good luck at your regionals, and see you in Atlanta.

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You must not know very many students then.

Way to fail there buddy.

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After these last 6 weeks, he probably needs a Super Long nap, but who doesnt? and maybe a 148 Caliber bot for his team? or a cookie? :)

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Awesome! You guys nailed the ball handling, the lifting, and the versatile drive train. I would have expected a variable distance kicker too, but it looks like you have plenty of 'sweet spots' on the field to score reliably from.

Way cool, as usual. Someday I will find a way to see one of your robots in person.

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Actually, he needs a few reads of the many and various JVN whitepapers that are out there. Then we'll find out which team he belongs to, at any rate--when they suddenly improve to regular eliminations contenders.

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I believe what you mean, sir, is "Why didn't I think of that?" :D

AWESOME robot, easily the best ball possession I have seen so far. But the best thing about the video is the insight into 148's design process, and all the prototypes that came before this crazy machine.

Best of luck out there, hope I get a chance to see this thing...

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After looking at this photo yet another time, this bot keeps looking more and more like the next version of the M1 Abrams Tank.

John, is IFI doing military contracts now? :p

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WOW!

Thats really all I can say, this robot has left me speechless.

I can't wait to see ya'll at lonestar!

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You guys certainly brought the WOW factor this year. Another inspiring engineering feat with this years bot. As I said earlier in the year i'm really impressed with how well you use the amazing resources available to your team to their fullest abilities to produce beautiful robots.

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It tells me they have some $@#$@#$@#$@# fine mentors and a lot of passion.

IF there is a twin lurking somewhere up north I cannot wait until I get to see this thing with my own eyes. If not, John, when can I schedule a tour in Atlanta? (I want to book my time early)

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What is this "ball magnet" thing you speak of?

;)

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I had a quick question about the drive, when the drivetrain actuates itself from the omnis to the "regular" setup, are the 8 wheels in line or are the 4 traction wheels lower?

-Brando

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That is one BA looking robot. I bet we'll see it on Einstein. . . .

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Looks alright, I guess.

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Ah, I think I could make it out from the vid... Interesting I didn't think of that before now.

Good luck this season, not that you'll be needing much 'luck'.

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Wow, just amazing to see the work that both students and mentors put into creating a robot like this. When I create strategies with my team it is always based around playing against such powerful robots such as 148.

Kudos to the entire team and I can't wait to see it in action in the following weeks. Excellent job!

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Rocl On, 148.
Awesome.

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Ball Magnet seems about right... ;)

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The play by play as to what I said as it was going up the bar:

"Alright lets see...No, its not going that easy...no it's not going to...oh no really...OH WOAH WHAAAAT??!!!?"

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Is team IFI taking applications? I have a serious case of ball magnet envy... :p

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You mean "any team with sponsors like IFI who can cut all their parts for them in a couple of days so they have plenty of time to prototype."

Try designing and prototyping an entire robot in two weeks, and then working with a team of amateur machinists and welders (many of whom don't know the imperial system of units :eek: ) and NONE of whom have any experience with tools...

You build a bot that way, and then I’ll be impressed…

No but seriously, I'm freaking impressed :eek:

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Not all of Team IFI is smart enough to follow that path. Some of us cavemen actually mill everything the hard way ;)

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Yes.
It's nice to see someone actually post a robot once in while.
Some of us have better things to do than stare at a bunch of parts.

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There's one build day left for my team, and I just had to see this video of an awesome robot that's basically everything I ever wanted to do plus ten times more. I think I'm crying a little.

Awesome job. The drivetrain, the kicker, the hanger. Aaaah.

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Ummm.....I'm speechless.

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Don't cry [even virtual tears!] - everything's relative. 148 maximizes the output they get from the plentiful input resources they have, including human. If the output your team generates relative to your team's available inputs is near the same ratio as theirs, be proud of that achievement, as your results are no less impressive.

Most people in FIRST do (and if they don't, should) look beyond the absolute in determining the merits of a team's success each season.

Now on to the business of analyzing this beast, which is, I think, the most aesthetically groovy robot I've seen in my FIRST career (even with the eventual attachment of red/blue bumpers). I can see three sets of black tubing that appear to be tensioned by your arm's probably large tilt system reduction when it tilts back to grab the tower. I also see what I think maybe kinda sorta is two different attachment points near the center of the frame. Definitely one. I presume this tensioning assists the tilt in lifting the robot's max moment up from horizontal. Can you share any clarifications and further details of this particular part of your lift system?

Now I'm off to find a CNC sheet metal company in Northeast Ohio. :p

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The scariest part of the entire video and discussion is the realization that I know the RoboWranglers will be making the maximum possible use of their 65 pound withholding allowance and the remaining time until their competitions to make this monster ever BETTER. I can't wait to see the real final version.

-dave




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Saw the video last night and I had nightmares. Now that you have mentioned this, I may not be able to sleep again. Very scary indeed!

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John, Paul, et al -

Fantastic work once again. Your team(s) continue to inspire the inspired. You guys keep pushing the bar higher and higher and it's robots like this that will cause FIRST to breakthrough into the mainstream.

If I were a high school student on the fence about engineering, seeing this beautiful machine and knowing that I could make something like it one day would push me towards engineering. That's the purpose of this program.

Thanks for posting the video! Good luck, and we'll see you (hopefully beside us and not across from us) in Atlanta.

-Collin

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I have to admit, the tech you guys have made this Singaporean's eyes popped out. :eek: :eek: :eek:

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I don't think it is scary. There is a place where math becomes art. This is the place - a higher level. There are also individuals in our world who don't want to just compete, they want to dominate and will do what it takes to do that, lining up all the correct resources and talent. It is being showcased here. Strategy is part of the game but that same approach can be used in real world decision-making and in companies and how they run themselves. It's part of the vision that is promoted in FIRST and has culminated in the Robowranglers and what they are capable of.

Pretty cool.

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This one is a top contender. Your bot will inspire even those who are not on your team.

Great job!

Rob

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Another quality machine from team 148 & friends - I wouldn't expect anything less than the ultimate shutout machine from these guys. Can't wait to see it in action in an actual match.

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First off, amazing robot. Ridiculous that yall can pump that out in six weeks. This year we were shooting to make something 1/100th that awesome but unfortunately have thus lost out on a lot of valuable practice time.... :/
Still, compliments to you for such and amazing robot. Crazy....

On the discussion of how their "ball magnet" works, go to 2:28 in the video. As they drive up the hill to push the ball into the goal, the ball is stuck to the robot and hovers. First off, I am pretty sure that it is a roller system, not suction. If the ball isnt rolling and it is a roller system, does that mean the ball is pinched in? Is that really legal, or would that technically be a penalty (because the ball must the tiniest bit off the ground, right???) Is it just designed that the ball is pinched so low to the ground that is barely hovering? Is the roller torqued up so that it basically stalls when the ball is locked in place...? This is the buggiest part of our robot still...

I cant wait to (hopefully) see this thing at atlanta. Luckily, even is we dont make it, I can stop by... Too bad its leaving atlanta next year...

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wow!

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I don't follow. What makes a ball wedged under a roller (if it was) lift off the ground? Say the ball does get wedged in that shot. What is supporting it other than the ground?

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thats exactly what i was thinking, it looks like an amazing ball dribbler but it looked like the ball was not in contact with the ground when it was gathered but i could be wrong...just my POV