Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657 - (Win7 Error Fixed!)
 

Hamosad Robotics #1657 is proud to present: 2010 Breakaway Scouting Software. After a year of development, the new software is ready and you can download it now.
The default username is: "Admin" and the default password is "1234".
We recommend you to read the attached manual for better results.
We would like to thank the teams who took part in the beta testing of the software. Those teams have to delete their software (uninstall and delete the software’s folder) and install the new version.
The software isn’t clear off bugs and we would like you to tell us about them.
If you have any technical difficulties or questions, you can ask us via email:
yoniwe92@gmail.com, or in this thread.
You can download the software from the following links:

Win XP only:
http://www50.zippyshare.com/v/66683665/file.html
http://www.easy-share.com/1909444714...up_(1.025).exe
http://www.fileflyer.com/view/lIYJDAk
http://rapidshare.com/files/35848324...up__1.025_.exe

Win 7 and XP:
http://www15.zippyshare.com/v/63361823/file.html

Fix for Win7:
Go to the software directory ("C:\Program Files\Hamosad Robotics - 1657\FIRST Strategy"), then right click on "FIRST Strategy" and select "Run as Administer".

Good like everyone and we will see you in the competitions!

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

I jsut want to encourage everyone to download this.. i know i beta tested it and they have come along way making it one of the best scouting softwares out there!

team 2240 has decided to use this without a doubt! Thanks for all the hard work you put into this

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Would it be alright if I upload this too a faster US website?

EDIT:
I wasn't able to get it working. Whenever I run the program it immediately stops working. This might just be my copy, so I am going to redownload from another source.

EDIT2:
I was not able to get it working from another source.

I am running Win7 Professional x64
I ran with compatibility mode and administrator mode

My hardware is definitely capable of running the program.
Intel i7, 12GB DDR3 RAM, 2x9800 GTX+, 3.5TB hard drive etc.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

OMG, this is great i love you guys

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I am 2nd with results of it not working in 64bit. My o.s. is 64bit vista premium...

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

This is an awesome piece of software. Thank you guys for developing this for everyone! This will definitely come in handy for a lot of teams including ours!:)

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

I want one too:ahh:

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I also can't get it to work. Downloaded from 3 different sites. Installed on 32bit Vista. Program immediately has an issue and won't run. Any help!

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Hello for everyone!

If the software is'nt work, try to download the 3.5 Frameworks.
I will upload another Setup that include frameworks later.

Thank you all!

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Would love to see a Linux version for this (though I could always check if it works in Wine, I suppose...)

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, tried all compatibility modes. Did not work

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Hello again!

We uploaded another version of the Setup, in the following link:

http://www15.zippyshare.com/v/63361823/file.html

Try it. Good Luck!

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Problem is no one from our team uses W7, so we can't actually check if anything we do is effective. It's been tested for XP and should work well on it; so if you have XP on one of yu computers you may want to use it on that one.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

After trying on Win7 - the solution found:

Go to the software directory ("C:\Program Files\Hamosad Robotics - 1657\FIRST Strategy"), then right click on "FIRST Strategy" and select "Run as Administer".

It will work.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

The software looks great, is there a way to edit the inputs you can do for each team?


The issue that I have with the data collection (and this is by no means an attack on your work) is that all of the data is qualitative. Ranking a robot on "aggressiveness" and "Accuracy" opens the doors to errors. If you have 3 different people ranking these things you will get 3 different results.

For real engineering analysis in industry which can be applied to scouting you need QUANTITATIVE inputs. Things like "how many shots taken" "how many shots made" are better inputs because now if you want to judge accuracy you can numerically combine them and it will always be right regardless of who collects the data.

For example in the qualitative method you rank accuracy 1-10

so Jane gives team 2775 a "7" in match 1, a "4" in match 2, and a "5" in match 3. This would give team 2775 an average accuracy of 5.33


In the quantitative method

team 2775 makes 4 of 5 shots in match 1 2 of 4 shots in match 2 and 3 of 6 shots in match 3.

so they have an accuracy percentage of 65%

Over many matches you can see how recording quantitative data will give you a more accurate result, which you can then compare teams with since it removes the human factor from the data.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Where were you when we needed beta testing? ;-) I'll see if we can get around fixing this prior to week 2 events.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

I am unclear as to if there is a version that will work properly on Vista? All of our XP machines we use are busy with the programmers, so they are out of the question unfortunately. seems o be a great software that will help the team!

Thanks
-Mcgurky

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

what no support for macs? jk. macs suck. thanks for this. 1922 will be using it in boston.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

amm, try the WIN7 fix, I have Vista and it working perfectly.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

New version!

Click Here for download!

Before install, please uninstall the last version, and delete manually the software's folder.
We recommend to save the team list before this action, and load it at the new version.

Fixed:
Added "shots" input on the "Add Match" window.
Player accuracy now on quantitative method (Thanks to Greg Needel!).

Soon:
New mode for the scouting simulation - movie mode!

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

I am still having no luck..

Windows 7 Enterprise N (Ultimate) x64 Core i7 6GB Ram
also have .NET 3.5.1

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Did u tried the Win7 Fix as I writed above?

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Yes, I have tried every version you have posted. I download it, install it, at the end of the installation i choose NOT to run it on exit, then navigate to the program files folder and right click on the FIRST Strategy APPLICATION file and click run as administrator, then it asks me if I want to allow it to make changes to my computer (security alert) I click yes, then it says "FIRST Strategy has stopped working" and then just closes.

I have also tried restarting my computer after uninstalling.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

I found a sloution, it will be upload tomorrow.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Can't wait! :D I'm also running Win 7 x64. :D

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Mentor for 997.

We have a spreadsheet for scouting to evaluate ALL skills a robot displays. We log the data and then use a weighted average to determine the MVBot, best mid fielder and goalie (we are a forward/middy).

We qualified first in the Oregon Regional and, based on our spread sheet we passed on higher seeded veteran teams such as 1540,753,488, 368 etc. and selected 2130, the 26th seed, with our first pick and, not to be outdone, 1515 the 55th seed with the second (61 teams in Regional).

Our alliance captains faith in our scouting team was rewarded as we won the playoffs without loss, barring one dq which we should have won 11-1.

We think this is unheard of in the history of FRC for a #1 to select the #26 and #55, and even more unlikely to go on and win the Regional.

Scouting will be key to this years Championships as picking a kick butt bot to play goalie with the second pick will be difficult when most bots are playing offense, due to the scoring system used in qualifying.

Oh I should mention 2130 is a great midfielder/forward and 1515 is an unbelievable defensive bot.

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Would you mind sending me a copy of this spreadsheet by any chance? I tried to set something up like that last year, but I couldn't get it completely finished. I would love it if you wouldn't mind emailing me that! :D

-Rion

Re: Scouting Software By Hamosad #1657
 

Any thoughts on making a mobile version? 1622's scouting system is designed to be accessed from a cell phone. We carried laptops around for 2 years then came up with what we have now.

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I had actually worked out the average rank for the winning alliance from week 1.

NJ Regional - Seed 1 average rank 21
Bayou Regional - Seed 2 average rank 12
Peachtree regional - no rankings were available from FIRST when I compiled this data
Oregon regional - Seed 1 average rank 27.3
Finger Lakes regional - Seed 1 average rank 9
BAE Regional - Seed 2 average rank 12.6
KC Regional - Seed 1 average rank 10.3
D.C Regional - Seed 1 average rank 9.33
San Diego Regional - Seed 4 average rank 15


This was figured by adding the ranks of the winning alliance at the end of qualifying matches and dividing them by 3. I would actually like to see how these compare to previous years, because for at least the last 5 years seeding has been done by win/loss and not by qualifying points. IIRC Qualifying points ended in 2004(?) with the last hanging robot game. But I may be mistaken that was the year before I joined FIRST.