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Team 1606 hanging

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIqXPdoTBIM
Our hanging mechanism, comments will be appreciated.

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:yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
WOW that was cool! Very unique design!

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wow totally unexpected. :ahh: good luck this year guys!

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Looks... floppy :)

Is it really sensitive to how the bot is lined up with the tower?

Could that jacking mechanism be an elevator for another robot?

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Wow.. That looks amazing!!! A bit of practice with getting things a lined and it would something to see every match.

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Seems very 111 from 04 like. I was wondering if anyone was going to try this and Im happy to see it.

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Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 931075)

Looks... floppy :)

Is it really sensitive to how the bot is lined up with the tower?

Could that jacking mechanism be an elevator for another robot?

The robot does need to be lined up correctly, but we have a camera on the front that will hopefully help us position it right.
As for the elevator idea, we never really thought of it that way, but maybe it could be used for another robot to hang onto. I think that would be a long shot though.

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Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 931071)

:yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
WOW that was cool! Very unique design!

Agreed. That was CRAZY! lol

Cass

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Maan dat be crazy cool. For a secund i thought dat was my team ahahahahahaha my b! Cool robot tho

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wow awesome. I had an idea almost exactly like this one for the 04 game, and you guys did it so well here. Awesome. Favorite hanger. Period.

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Wow I totally wasn't expecting that to happen. Very nice surprise. But ground clearance seems to be an issue?

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Did NOT see that coming.
Good job, guys!

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You stole my idea! =P Ah well, I never mentioned it to the team because I didn't think it was feasible. Great job!

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Amazing! I kept expecting your hook to release and expand. When your entire robot lifted I think my jaw hit the floor.

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I hate to be a buzzkill...

The position of your bumpers changes with your hanging mechanism, and you're not climbing a bump or anything, so I'm tempted to say that counts as actuating your bumpers and is illegal since they leave the normal bumper zone :/

Bumper rules aside (good luck with a fix)... What motivated you to do this instead of the "traditional" winch method? This is pretty awesome and all, but I'm curious as to why you didn't use that piston to extend your hook, or something like that?

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 931268)

The position of your bumpers changes with your hanging mechanism, and you're not climbing a bump or anything, so I'm tempted to say that counts as actuating your bumpers and is illegal since they leave the normal bumper zone

~~This concerns me as well.~~ Please read <R07-a> very carefully.

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that was amazing!:ahh: :ahh: :ahh: ummm what regionals are you guys attending?!?!?

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 931289)

This concerns me as well. Please read <R07-a> very carefully.

I need to take my own advice. I misread <R07-a> and the "blue box" underneath it.

This robot design does not violate <R07> bumper rules.

I would be sure the elevator base cannot be considered a metal traction device under <R08>. If you think there would be any difficulty there, just put some polycarb strips on the bottom.

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 931345)

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Originally Posted by bluebox

Under Rule <R07-A> whenever the ROBOT is on a flat floor, the BUMPERS must remain entirely within the BUMPER ZONE. But when the ROBOT is driving over a BUMP or RAMP and/or ELEVATED or SUSPENDED (or in the process of being ELEVATED or SUSPENDED) on the TOWER
• it is no longer constrained by Rule <R07-A>, and
• it is expected and allowed that the BUMPERS will travel outside (typically above) the BUMPER ZONE, and
• if the ROBOT is "frozen" (i.e. all moving parts halted) and placed on a flat surface, the BUMPERS do not have to be within the BUMPER ZONE.
Note that these effects are only in force when the ROBOT is actually driving over the BUMP or RAMP and/or ELEVATED or SUSPENDED (or in the process of being ELEVATED or SUSPENDED) on the TOWER (i.e. the body of the ROBOT must not be in its normal flat-floor attitude and elevation). Simply touching the BUMP, RAMP, or TOWER is not a sufficient condition to avoid violating Rule <R07-A>.

I'm still not completely convinced after reading <R07a>, mainly because it satisfies BOTH parts of the rule. The robot is on a flat floor, and is in the process of elevating itself. Which trumps which?

Oh yeah, also covering the ends in polycarbonate or anything that's not metal is a good idea.

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I would read the rule as: "If the robot is on a flat floor the bumpers must be in the bumper zone unless the robot is in the process of being elevated."

I do not think the spirit of the rule would prohibit this (awesome) design either.

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Sorry for bumping up an old thread, but I wanted to update all the people here on how we did at the SBPLI regional. The design was legal, and we had the second most hanging points at SBPLI with 16. We also won the creativity award and made it into the elimination rounds.