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Grim Tuesday 07-03-2010 23:15

Q&A 6v0
 
We all know the deal about 6v0 matches, but we have heard no word about it from FIRST, and I doubt that we will unless we come to them. Due to the fact that I dont have the Q&A account for my team, and we don't meet for another two days, someone who does should ask the Q&A what their intent for the coopertition bonus was, and if they really wanted a 6v0 game. It will also stop all this silly speculating and namecalling on these forums.

pfreivald 07-03-2010 23:23

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
And they should specifically ask if '3v0', coopertition-point denying "strategies" were intended, too.

Rion Atkinson 08-03-2010 00:47

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 933337)
We all know the deal about 6v0 matches, but we have heard no word about it from FIRST, and I doubt that we will unless we come to them. Due to the fact that I dont have the Q&A account for my team, and we don't meet for another two days, someone who does should ask the Q&A what their intent for the coopertition bonus was, and if they really wanted a 6v0 game. It will also stop all this silly speculating and namecalling on these forums.

I personally don't think this is a Q&A question. After all, that is for asking questions about rules... Maybe just message Dave Lavery? (Though I bet somebody already has...) Just a thought.

Cory 08-03-2010 00:57

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 933337)
We all know the deal about 6v0 matches, but we have heard no word about it from FIRST, and I doubt that we will unless we come to them. Due to the fact that I dont have the Q&A account for my team, and we don't meet for another two days, someone who does should ask the Q&A what their intent for the coopertition bonus was, and if they really wanted a 6v0 game. It will also stop all this silly speculating and namecalling on these forums.

They never answer questions of intent. I wouldn't waste the time.

dtengineering 08-03-2010 01:44

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
I don't think you need to ask the GDC if they foresaw the possibility of a 6v0 match.

There are two possibile answers to the question. "Yes, we foresaw this as part of the game." or,

"No. We took a large group of brilliant people, many with years and years of FRC experience, and introduced a completely new ranking system without thinking of the possible outcomes, opportunities and team stragegies that might result."

They may also want to point out that this outcome had never occurred to Dean Kamen, either, in the years in which he was pursing a patent on this particular ranking mechanism.

I suspect the GDC is enjoying watching teams wrap their heads around this ranking algorithm.... and is probably a bit surprised that it has taken teams so long to clue in to the options this ranking system presents to them.

Jason

davidfv 08-03-2010 02:00

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 933421)

I suspect the GDC is enjoying watching teams wrap their heads around this ranking algorithm.... and is probably a bit surprised that it has taken teams so long to clue in to the options this ranking system presents to them.

Jason

Bravo Jason, great comment.

jskene 08-03-2010 08:42

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
In the DC regional this last weekend, the MC advised the teams to "try scoring on your opponents' goal sometimes".

It seems pretty clear that that the game design committee intended 6V0 to be a part of the game play strategy.

Grim Tuesday 08-03-2010 17:18

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
Interesting. The MC from FLR is an outspoken hater of the 6v0 scoring. Look for him, Steve W. on this forums...

dtengineering 08-03-2010 19:56

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 933866)
Interesting. The MC from FLR is an outspoken hater of the 6v0 scoring. Look for him, Steve W. on this forums...

And therefore obviously has enough class to put his personal opinions aside, while "at work" publicly repersenting FIRST, and support the game and organization even while disagreeing with one of the rules.


Jason

Grim Tuesday 08-03-2010 20:57

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
Steve be the man!

dtengineering 09-03-2010 21:15

Re: Q&A 6v0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtengineering (Post 933421)
I don't think you need to ask the GDC if they foresaw the possibility of a 6v0 match.

There are two possibile answers to the question. "Yes, we foresaw this as part of the game." or,

"No. We took a large group of brilliant people, many with years and years of FRC experience, and introduced a completely new ranking system without thinking of the possible outcomes, opportunities and team stragegies that might result."

...

Jason

Umm.... er... so whaddaya know, the answer was "No." after all.

Jason


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