Re: The 469 auto
 

All a robot needs to do is block the tunnel. If they can't get in the tunnel, they can't start their system. This allows robots to clear balls out of their zone and other robots to get in their face. Quite a few teams did it at Troy Athens this past weekend, although it didn't work in every match. With the Michigan State Championship next weekend, I believe that the better robots will be able to do this quite well.

Re: The 469 auto
 

In my opinion, blocking the tunnel helped, but didn't work well enough. 469 has proved that they have a more then capable kickerto score from the mid zone. A 2 v 3 match doesn't often work. The most successfull strategy will be a robot that can block the tunnel at will. This robot could block the tunnel in auto, then come out of it to not let them shoot, then go back in the tunnel if need be. The bees had a different strategy in the first match of the finals that seemed to work well, kick all the balls out of the far zone, this leaves a 2 v 1 seniro in the rest of the field with very few balls in the cycle.

Re: The 469 auto
 

This funnily enough, was not on purpose. However, I wish we had done it the other two matches because it worked much better. I guess we inadvertently found the best way to play against 469, lol:p .

Re: The 469 auto
 

haha yea I figured that was an accident because you then blocked the tunnel the other 2 times, congrates on making it to the finals and finding a way to at least tie 217 and 469!

Re: The 469 auto
 

[opinion]469 didn't win with a blocked tunnel because they're such a fantastic midfield bot; they won because they were playing against a crippled 33 with 217 on their side. [/opinion]

That said, 469 is not useless by any means if they're blocked from the tunnel, they can play mid. But it looks like once they're in the tunnel, they can't leave.

Re: The 469 auto
 

Yes they can, they did it many times during quals in order to get some balls in their cycle when there were none.
This seems to be common misconception:confused:, however I assure you they will only ever be at the tower if they want to be.

Re: The 469 auto
 

Ah, I was just confused when they stayed in the tunnel for Finals 1. Nevermind then!

Re: The 469 auto
 

Anyone have video of this finals match?

Re: The 469 auto
 

they are still a desent midfield bot and that makes it a 2v3 game if someone blocks the tunnel and doesnt leave

Re: The 469 auto
 

Weird... It's almost as if I had suggested this early last week as the strategy necessary to beat them...

Oh, wait, I did. :D

Re: The 469 auto
 

The strategy isn't quite that simple. Keeping 217 away from the front zone was also critical.

Re: The 469 auto
 

I'm certain that's true. My comment was regarding 469 in particular. If you can keep balls out of the cycle in the first place, you can play a regular game and win.

Thunderchickens are force unto themselves...