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2010 Silicon Valley Regional
Are you excited about SVR?
I am! I am also very nervous about it. MVRT went to San Diego and managed to win Finalist because of a lot of luck and really, really great alliance partners in the finals, but the level and intensity of competition is going to step up another notch at SVR this year. We are going to see the 5 brother and sister teams who went down to San Diego with us in week one (which include a regional winner, 100, as well as 192, 668, 846, and 1868). We are going to see teams who went to Oregon (team 8 and 1700). We are going to see the Poofs preforming the very first time at a competition (team 254). We are going to see some very strong teams from Sacramento region (Team 692 and 701). We are going to get some very tough competition from the Danville/Livermore/San Ramon teams (Team 852, 1280, 1458, 1516). We are going to see the return of one of our National Championship Divisional and Championship Winner from last year (Team 971). We are going to see Mad Town in blue (Team 1323). And we are going to see some very strong rookie teams this year (Team 3129, 3156, 3256). You excited?! I am excited! Luckily, we were able to spend some time over the weekend on our practice bot putting on a stronger kicker with a better trajectory. As of yesterday we were making goals consistently from the back and mid zone with the practice bot. But I also heard teams were having awesome, awesome practices at NASA Ames in the past few weeks. So I am nervous, very nervous about how this weekend will unfold. What do you say? You guys ready for some fierce competition this weekend?! |
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Don't forget 766, 114, and 604!
Can't wait to see Breakaway played live! Team 100 has been practicing tirelessly with our practice bot* *by which I mean: 'we've been sitting around and relaxing' (becuase we were too lazy to build a practice bot :) ). |
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Thanks, Martin.
Team 604 is pumped. See you all there tomorrow! |
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Dont forget about the team from the middle of nowhere in nor cal.
675 is itching to be at SVR it's our favorite regional. Can't wait to see everyone there! |
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Team 2489 is thouroughly excited! Can't wait for tomorrow. [:
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Looking forward to seeing some pretty impressive robots this year! 8, 100, and 254 come immediately to mind, but I have a feeling we'll be seeing some quite impressive rookies as well!
Team 114 is excited to bring the same drive base that carried 997 to win the Oregon Regional. See you all tomorrow! |
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I'll be streaming this regional at work, I'm still trying to get a projector set up for the whole office to see. :)
Can't wait to see some old allies in team 100, and 1458 from Davis. and 668 from Cal Games the one year we ventured down. I'm always excited to see the Outbacks tracks out there competing again. Good luck to 114, 668, and 1458 at SVR. I'll be cheering for you! and Of course I'll be excited to see what the Poofs came up with this year! |
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Team 2367 will be there....looking forward to some intense competition!
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Can't wait to come down and see all our friends today and apply what we learned about Breakaway from D.C..
Best of luck to everyone, it's gonna be a tough regional! |
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Is a stream for the competition available yet?
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I found a link here.
It looks like there will be one but I do not believe it has started yet. I'll try and keep my eye on it this morning to see when it starts and will post an update here. |
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If any are interested, a member of 114 will be updating regarding the team's progress on the twitter account frc114.
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The stream is up now here, but there seems to be very few teams making it onto the field each match.
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Which team is trying to do the 469 style ball redirection? I couldn't read the numbers on their bumper (if they had numbers at this point).
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Does anyone have the embed code or a stream link for the Silicon Valley Regional?
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Woo-Hoo, Team 670 first to pass inspection at 10:33am, at least we are best at something this year. We sailed through up to programming the modem, which gave them endless trouble. The new software just didn't work. They finally dug out last year's instructions and got those to work. We ran in all our practice match with only some minor problems to iron out.
Seriously though, it wasn't going well over in the inspection area, only 10 or so teams passing by 3pm. I only noticed one apparent field problem, fairly late in the day (3pm or so) resulting in at least 15 minutes of delay. They rushed the practice matches after that so as to finish around 30 minutes late. Team 8's ball director had serious problems on test, I'll be surprised if they get it working for this competition. I'm told they built it all in the last 3 days after seeing 469's success. |
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As someone in Michigan, I'm quite interested to see how well you west-coasters build robot. Speaking of well-built robots, my handy-dandy FRC tracker reported that there were 30 points scored in one practice match, for one alliance. Hopefully it got that wrong? Should I be scared? Can anyone get me some details? Heheh.
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I'm doubtful 8 will get their shoots working. The balls come down their shoots very fast, and their shoots are much shorter than 469’s. I'm not sure they'll be able to direct them into the goals. But we shall see. I don’t know why 8 is rebuilding most of their bot, their original ball control and kicker system was IMO very successful in Portland. |
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I personally don't see why they would do this, I understand winning is important but if your students have spend 6 weeks working really hard on a design / strategy that the team concepted/prototyped/designed and eventually built it's probably worth competing with it. But I digress, this isn't the time or place for that discussion :p Quote:
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But yes, it was a test match where the refs were testing the field. I hope we see that alliance on Saturday! :D |
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Ouch, I'm watching qualification match #14 and the blue alliance only has 1 robot on the field :eek:
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In match #20, 192 was on 675's ramp, and was touching the tower with their bumper. It looked like the whole robot was above the plane of the platform, but I don't think the refs scored it as a hang. Can someone else shed light on what happened there?
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Since I just tuned in....
can someone give me a little update on how 1323, 3129, 973, and 604 have done so far? |
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Too bad I have to leave soon for a small vacation back to Vegas now. ;) |
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Do I spy a 254/1868 collaboration? I've yet to see 1868 hang, but otherwise they look identical.
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The drive bases do look almost identical though |
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After Day 1 its:
1. 971 2. 254 3. 192 4. 1868 5. 114 6. 8 7. 100 Wow, pretty much all my favorite Bay Area teams (including my alumni team) are at the top! I just wish I could be in San Jose watching the matches instead of taking finals today and tomorrow... :o Good luck tomorrow everyone, the matches at SVR are looking great so far! |
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"I'm not a mentor. I'm a tormentor" -Mark leon
Sebastian Thrun as guest speaker? Really cool! :D And that video was awesome! |
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glad to see 8 doing well, competed with them at the Oregon regional.....it's that home-turf thing I guess :)
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I'm loving the high quality webcast! This is one of the more competitive regionals I've seen so far, with lots of high caliber bots that stand out. Lots of really sticky ball magnets coming into play, too.
971 is FAST! Some of the best driving that I can recall seeing at any FIRST event. The lighting bolts on their drivetrain are very fitting. |
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That 971 bot sure is impressive. Those students should be proud to the core of what they've built. It's awesome to watch them soar around the field.
Also, I have to say that I LOVE the 254 hanging mechanism. So simple in operation, and so quick. Edit: It's a really stacked regional... Looking forward to tomorrow! |
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Our roller system and kicker are fairly similar, but then again, a lot of people have similar roller/kicker combinations this year. Oh, and we removed the hanger mount because we hoped we would be able to get it done for SVR, but didn't quite have the manpower. This way we have the tunnel option as well. If we make it to Championships we might use our backup frame and get a hanger. |
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Also, 971's roller is pretty cool. They implemented a software clutch using motor current and drive base speed. It works like money. |
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I'm really impressed with the the bot 971 came out with this year, it's a beast of a machine. Makes us alumni proud! |
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Does anyone else have a really choppy webcast?
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I haven't been able to get the WMV feed to work correctly either
Edit: feed seems to be working OK now |
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Anyone know when finals will be starting?
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sanddrag: http://www2.usfirst.org/2010comp/eve...chresults.html
It seems that in elimination matches there is a robot that is immobile on the field? 668 Too bad |
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They're using a flag to determine if robots are above the plane?
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What's going on? It's been a couple meetings since the timeout ran out, and were still not playing a match?
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Edit: Field crashed due to new radios... |
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1280 hung exactly like that earlier and they called it good. The camera zoomed in close to show it was tilted down and the ref's still gave them the hang. But this time, when it counts they don't give it to them. Bad call refs.
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Did anyone else notice the Red Alliance's score drop by 2 during the last few seconds of F1-1? It went from 9 to 7.
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Another thing is when the human player sticks the trident into the goal, the numbers might jump around. |
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Also, what's up with the ref's making two different calls for the same type of field issue? They announced a ball counting error on blue, and added one point to their score making it a tie. Then, they announced a ball counting error on red, declaring a field fault and a replay. It should have either been a replay due to the field fault for blue (from the outset), or a point added for red (resulting in a win) because that's how they handled it for blue. Their rulings are not consistent. What determines if a fault should result in a points adjustment, or a replay? |
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I haven't had any experience on the technical side of the field however, so this is simply how it was explained to me, I cannot verify this is correct. |
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They explained to us that they had someone watching three of the four goals and could not verify an official count for red
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My next question, if this is an expected piece of functionality why are they replaying matches when it occurs? Also, what rule does this penalty fall under? |
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Regardless, the cause is the same; the ball counter working the wrong way. Every time I've seen it happen it was corrected (either based on the authority of n people other than myself who caught it, or the authority of a volunteer counting the in/out manually). |
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Though i have to admit it got pretty hard at times, 8 out of the 16 matches the kicker malfunctioned and stuck out of the robot, blocking the rollers, leaving me with a tiny bit of intake on each side of the kicker to work with. |
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There is no standard of inspection for breaking the plane
in the rules, other than to eyeball the plane. When robots are suspended from the top it is easy to eyeball the plane. Eyeballing the plane is difficult for robots that hang on the vertical pole if they slip down the pole and make contact with the plane, removing the air gap that would otherwise exist. The lower hanging clamp on our robot was clearanced the day earlier in order to produce a more reliable latch on the top clamp, given the bump in the carpet as you approach the tower that we had not replicated in testing at our shop. This produced the angle for the lower clamp. We added "feet" of 1 inch box tubing, but neglected to make sure that these feet did not extend past the platform. The head ref made the right call in the elimination match and clearly paid a lot of attention to this issue during the eliminations as would be expected once it was realized just how tough this particular call is. The earlier call that "missed" the problem is not relevant to making the correct call in the elimination matches. The best alliance won SVR and the alliance that eliminated our alliance earned their move up the elimination ladder. It is as simple as that. We move on to the Sacramento regional next and we will most certainly have re-worked our hanging clamp to remove this issue, among other re-works that are also in order. See you guys at Sacramento! Eugene Quote:
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All in all this was a great event! I had an awesome time.
Thanks to our alliance partners 1868 and 675. The 675 crew is really cool. :cool: Very enthusiastic and dedicated group of people. It was an honor to play with you guys again. Too bad we never got up the ramps. Ah well, there's always CalGames. I think I drove everyone on my team crazy with that cowbell you gave me. :p Also thanks to 1868 for the pick! Robot was a good striker, and a tough machine. I was very proud of the way our alliance performed in the finals. Despite the odds, we managed to tie the red alliance in the first match and put up high scores in the following matches. Team 971 is pretty amazing. Their robot is proof that good ball control is the key to winning. Even without a functioning kicker or a hanger they were able to easily score 10+ points single handedly. Congrats guys. |
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I have to say, this was an incredible event. If you had told me my first year, when our robot could barely move, that one day we would be team captains for 3rd alliance, pick the legendary team 100, and almost beat 254 in finals.... I wouldn't have paid attention. I wish they would give "Most Spirited Alliance" Awards instead of just team ones. We would've won for sure. Congratulations for the win at San Diego and have a great time at Championships! We wish we could join you. :) |
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Are there any pictures of the Poofs or 971 floating around? I'm dying to see them.
Video would also be more than acceptable. :D |
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(i would watch out for those jag's if i were you) |
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Loved the Poof's bot too, and they're only going to get better...I predict they'll get 2-3 in auto consistently by champs, and hang even faster (if that's possible). And how about 649? I can't believe they lasted all the way back around with they way they were driving and the defense they played. A steal of a pick, and the perfect partner to round out that alliance. Big congrats to MVRT 115 on the RCA. I don't know you guys all that well, but it sounded well deserved. |
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The Jaguars are rated for 40A continuous, 60A for 2 seconds and 100 peak. |
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We put on a decent performance after that for our last three qualifying matches. Given our trouble moving cleanly for the first seven, it's not much of a surprise if any team found us risky as an alliance pick. (We also had a rather embarrassing issue: a metal staple found its way into our digital sidecard, occasionally shorting it out. Oops... Thanks to Kiet of 254 for finding it and pulling it out for us. It was jammed in there good.) Anyway, IMO, a more proper solution to this would have been to limit how fast the motor could change speed in software, instead of swapping to Victors. |
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That was some truly fantastic driving done by team 971. |
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Team 2489 had a great time at SVR this year. It was our first year using pneumatics in our three year history, and we did run into some problems. We would like to thank Mike from team 115 MVRT (Chairman's Award winner) and Steven form team 100 Wildhats. With their help we were able to get our kicker working on Saturday.
Congratulations to MVRT for a well deserved Chairman's Award!:) Congratulations to 254, 971 and 649 for winning. Special shout out to the Dean's List Finalist Award Winner from our team, Anne Liu. We love you Anne!!! |
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Does anybody happen to have a video of the SVR alliance selections?
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I had setup a Pinnacle video transfer/encoder, but someone swiped the Black 8 GB, USB memory stick from it at the end of the day (perhaps took the wrong one by mistake?). Anyhow, if anyone has it by chance - upload the video from it!
Also thanks to 192 and 1280 for picking us. We gave 100, 1868, and 675 a good semifinal run at it. Congrats to 971, 254, and 649 - definitely an amazing alliance. |
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Team 604 would like to thank Teams 8 and 1323 for being amazing alliance partners and to Teams 254, 971 and 649 for being great opponents. Congrats on your win!
I have posted photos of teams I took throughout SVR here: http://picasaweb.google.com/cubing.r...yRegional2010# Hope you enjoy! -Jenny |
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Will you be taking a similar amount of pictures at Sacramento? |
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Thanks. Glad you enjoyed them =] Though being at the event is better. I was thankful enough to receive a Media badge at SVR so I was able to get close to the playing field and in backstage areas where normal student participants would not be allowed to go. I will still take photos of teams in the pits working but I am not sure how many close-up match shots I will be able to get. |
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I would like to say thank you to Team 8 and Team 604, you guys were the best partners ever. We loved playing with you guys and it was a great alliance. But I would like to apologize for our DT gearboxes popping/ripping 25 chain. We will be switching that part to gears for Davis.
I can foresee a 604/1323 tag team at Davis. But congrats to 971/254/649. You guys were amazing. 254 had one of the best lifters, wish you guys the best of luck at your next comps. Hats off to Team IFI. -RC |
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Didn't Jim Beck say pictures would be on firstsv.org today?
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We (BAE Systems) hired a professional photographer to shoot the entire regional. Because the photographer goes through each image individually to adjust color and lighting it will take some time before all of the images are available, I would say a week or so. Please continue to check firstsv.org for updates and I will also post here to let people know when the pictures are available. |
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Thanks to all the teams who played with us and against us. It was an exciting weekend all around.
I have said that my only regret is that I never got to see 973 perform up to what I know was their potential. Hopefully we'll get to see what they can really do in Las Vegas. :D |
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I forced some of my kids to watch the webcast on Friday... they were in awe. Nice work and congratulations! |
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Any updates on the availability of pictures or video from the event besides what's already been posted?
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The photographer we used goes through each picture individually to adjust lighting and color so that he can produce the best possible image, which takes some time. I expect to have them available shortly after Championships. Here is a sample he sent the other day. Apparently he spent some time in the rafters so there should be some interesting shots! |
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Wow epic shot. I look forward to seeing the rest.
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Wow and thank you for the update, that is a lot of photos.
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Hi all,
The 2010 SVR pictures are available for download here: http://baesystemssiliconvalleyfirst.shutterfly.com/ Over 2500 in all with some very interesting perspectives! Enjoy! :D |
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Well done! This is cool. |
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