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Bruceb 19-03-2010 09:32

Never been to championship before got questions
 
Well since 706 has committed to go to Atlanta I have a couple of questions. First, how many team members do you usually bring?
How do the teams get from the hotel to the arena and how long does it take?
Is the pit realy far from the playing field? I have heard a mile and I can't believe that.
Do most teams go out for lunch? 45 minutes is not a long time to make that happen.
Can you bring food to the pits?
I'll probably have more but answers to these would be a big help.
Thanks
Bruce

artdutra04 19-03-2010 09:39

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 939536)
Well since 706 has committed to go to Atlanta I have a couple of questions. First, how many team members do you usually bring?

As many as possible!
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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 939536)
How do the teams get from the hotel to the arena and how long does it take?

Either walking or MARTA subway. Either takes up to 20 minutes, depending on where in downtown your hotel is (close hotels usually walk, further ones use the subway). A week long unlimited subway pass was about $12-$15, and can also be used to get from the Airport to downtown.
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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 939536)
Is the pit realy far from the playing field? I have heard a mile and I can't believe that.

Half mile is more accurate.
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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 939536)
Do most teams go out for lunch? 45 minutes is not a long time to make that happen.

It's enough. There are numberous places to eat in the GWCC (the pits), the Dome, or the nearby CNN Center Food Court.
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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 939536)
Can you bring food to the pits?

No.
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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 939536)
I'll probably have more but answers to these would be a big help.
Thanks
Bruce


Tom Bishop 19-03-2010 09:41

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How do the teams get from the hotel to the arena and how long does it take?
There are plenty of hotel rooms within walking distance. Most teams stay at one of those hotels in the downtown area.
Is the pit realy far from the playing field? I have heard a mile and I can't believe that.
Never measured, but it takes about 10 minutes to walk from the pits to the field without traffic. I'd say that's about a half mile.
Do most teams go out for lunch? 45 minutes is not a long time to make that happen.
Lots of food choices including a picnic outside. GWCC has the best food at the lowest cost. That's where the pits are.
Can you bring food to the pits?
Not supposed to.

Jimmy Cao 19-03-2010 09:44

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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 939536)
Well since 706 has committed to go to Atlanta I have a couple of questions. First, how many team members do you usually bring?

The whole team. We bring a bus and often share it with another team. Championships are a great opportunity, take the whole team along for the fun!

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How do the teams get from the hotel to the arena and how long does it take?
The bus we came with. Depends on where you stay, it could be as little as maybe 10 minutes, but the bus queue can get rather long

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Is the pit realy far from the playing field? I have heard a mile and I can't believe that.
Its a good half mile at least if you're on the furthest field. The driveteam gets a shortcut, so maybe only a quarter mile for them, worst case. Best case is not much better.

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Do most teams go out for lunch? 45 minutes is not a long time to make that happen.
I can't speak for others, but my team usually buys lunch and a parent/mentor/someone goes to pick it up and bring it back to the courtyard area. A lot of teams eat in the courtyard.

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Can you bring food to the pits?
Same rules as everywhere else, no.

EDIT: Dang, sniped twice >.<

JaneYoung 19-03-2010 10:01

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There's a lot of wisdom in this thread. It would be worth your while to read through it. If any more questions come to mind, ask them.

I would suggest that you:
1. be prepared for the unexpected. That would include being prepared for emergencies such as medical, financial, family. The more organized your team is, the better the experience will be. The Championships can be overwhelming for first time attendees and the organization will help keep that in control.

2. have a meeting place and run a buddy system. That way, no one is running around alone and everyone knows when and where to meet up. (Because the pits and the stands/fields are so far apart - the team is separated. That takes extra thought as far as coordinating arrivals/departures, etc.)

3. attend the Championship conferences. This is the time of the season when teams have the opportunity to listen to and meet members of other teams that are so valued in the FRC/FIRST community.

4. make sure that you keep up with the Championship schedules/information. An example is the Thursday qualifying rounds that are being introduced this year.

I don't think it matters how many team members go. If everyone can go, that's great. Just make sure you can handle that. If only a few can go, make arrangements to keep a travel log or blog or video to share with the rest of the team. Take lots of pictures - and not just of all the robots, but of everything. That's where memories can be stored.

Have a great time!
Jane

JesseK 19-03-2010 10:19

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Tips for Atlanta:

They can't call out when it's time for your team to queue over the speaker system. It's too loud and there are 4 divisions. You're responsible for knowing when your next match is. A tip is to watch the score board for what match is when and leave 20 minutes in advance for the first couple of matches. That will give you an idea of how long the walk takes (10-15 mins) and how far ahead/behind they are in the schedule.

If you're part of the drive team, you will want GOOD SHOES, especially if you're the one pushing/pulling the robot.

Make friends, ask for help directly from teams. Unfortunately, it's difficult to hear even the sparse requests for help or parts. Many veteran teams have a network of friends they can go to if you need something specific, so they should at least be able to point you in the right direction.

Eat in the courtyard between the GWCC and GA Dome. There are often times other fun things happening there too.

In 2006/2007 we stayed in downtown Atlanta at a FIRST hotel, booked in TIMS. The walk took 20 mins, though it may take you a little more or less since some hotels are further/closer.

In 2008/2009 we stayed at a hotel in Marietta and rented 3 12-passenger vans for a cost savings of ~$500 for 40 people (also had a truck/trailer for tools). So far we plan to do this again for 2010, but with a much smaller team (only FTC for us this year).

FIRST hotels are a bit pricey, relative to what else is available in the city, yet the cost of a car (12-passenger van = $400 for Wed night to Sat. night) may offset that price depending on how many students you bring. It's an engineering feat in and of itself to find the best bang for your buck for the whole trip, so be sure to research. As an example, we had to consider that if we drove a bus down our County's regulations stipulate no overnight driving; thus the cost savings of a bus were offset by the cost of an extra night in the hotel. I'd recommend making several different options on various tabs for a spreadsheet, and then figure out which option gives you the best value (e.g. perhaps you're willing to pay a little extra money for a little less headache, etc).

I definitely recommend staying at a hotel that serves a free hot breakfast. When we attended Philadelphia in 2008, we made the mistake of staying at the Sheraton downtown. There's nothing worse than a grumpy team full of hungry kids since 2 scrambled eggs with toast cost $6 (ran out for doughnuts instead, but that still doesn't nourish enough for a day of competition...). Typical continental breakfasts are an ok substitute so long as you get enough.

ebarker 19-03-2010 10:26

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if you look at this picture

you will see the dome and the GWCC. The lobby of building 'C' of the GWCC is just above the dome and to the left.

It is roughly the shape of a ship. In fact the Titanic ship would fit inside the lobby. It is around 1,000 feet or 1/5 mile long. Just to give you perspective.

To get from the pits to the dome floor will require a minimum travel of probably 0.4 mile. Allow for distance and traffic on the way there.

Because if you are not at the field on time you are out of luck.

Bethie42 19-03-2010 11:43

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Another first-timer at Atlanta.....thanks for the link to the older thread, that was extremely helpful.
I just wanted to check this, as I've got friends coming: Championships are free to the public like regionals, right?

thank you!

Kristian Calhoun 19-03-2010 11:54

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Originally Posted by Bethie42 (Post 939582)
Another first-timer at Atlanta.....thanks for the link to the older thread, that was extremely helpful.
I just wanted to check this, as I've got friends coming: Championships are free to the public like regionals, right?

thank you!

Correct—like all other FIRST events, the Championships are free and open to the public.

JaneYoung 19-03-2010 12:27

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Originally Posted by Bethie42 (Post 939582)
Another first-timer at Atlanta.....thanks for the link to the older thread, that was extremely helpful.
I just wanted to check this, as I've got friends coming: Championships are free to the public like regionals, right?

thank you!

Yes, and stay in touch with your friends regarding where to meet you. It would be good for you to establish that with them before they head your direction.

Funny story, I was trying to find my team last year at the Championship. Our main team color is purple and I was looking for purple in the stands. They chose to wear their gray shirts that day and I wasn't looking for gray. Luckily, they spotted me (in my PURPLE), looking for them.

Jane

DUCKIE 19-03-2010 13:56

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http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...mpus%20Map.pdf

Official 2010 diagrams are not up yet, but was able to find this one on the FLL page.

Pits are usually in GWCC Bldg C, and non-drive team members use ground-level C entrance to access the Georgia Dome.

What they call "west plaza gold deck" is the grassy area where most teams eat lunch / toss frisbees / where the annual Chief Delphi Web-hug is held.

Bruceb 19-03-2010 16:50

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So where do we park to unload our pit and where do we go to park for the day?
Bruce

familyguyfreak 20-03-2010 20:56

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
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Originally Posted by DUCKY (Post 939634)
http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedFiles...mpus%20Map.pdf

Official 2010 diagrams are not up yet, but was able to find this one on the FLL page.

Pits are usually in GWCC Bldg C, and non-drive team members use ground-level C entrance to access the Georgia Dome.

What they call "west plaza gold deck" is the grassy area where most teams eat lunch / toss frisbees / where the annual Chief Delphi Web-hug is held.

Using the map in the link above, teams unload and bring their stuff in for their pits using the Northside Dr. entrance. I don't where you can park for the day, when we went, we went in a bus and the buses parked in the Yellow Lot that's further down Northside Dr.

Katie_UPS 20-03-2010 21:34

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DON'T FORGET TO HAVE FUN AT THE WRAP-UP PARTY!
And cheer and scream and have fun.
And go to RoboProm (assuming that it's happening this year).
Championships is the best place to network, so meet people from other teams and have too much fun. :)

IndySam 20-03-2010 21:44

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Encourage a few team members to volunteer at the event. It is a lot of fun and you meet so many cool people. Plus free lunch and access to the floor. Hard deal too beat.

It's also really a great thing for recent team alumni to do if they come along with your team.

Jeff Pahl 20-03-2010 23:42

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One thing no one has mentioned so far: not only is it a fair walk from the pits to the field with the robot, but it is not flat. Make sure you have a decent cart with some real wheels on it, a furniture dolly, even with a handle, will not make you very happy. Also, make sure there is room on the cart for some basic tools, and a spare battery or two. Every year as I am walking back and forth, I see poor kids trying to run from the pits to the field with a battery. It's a long way to try and run with a 12 lb lead brick... Also, as there will be some matches on the schedule where you will not really have time to go back to the pit between matches, you may want a way to power/charge your Classmate.

See you there!!

kjolana1124 21-03-2010 08:54

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First, how many team members do you usually bring?
Our team tends to enforce a rule that you need to attend 60% of the meeting at least in order to be eligible to go to Atlanta. However, almost everyone on our team does, so we normally end up with around 30.

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How do the teams get from the hotel to the arena and how long does it take?
The unofficial FIRST parade, as I like to call it. You'll probably see at least half the teams walking with you every day to the Georgia Dome (much to the confusion of Atlanta residents). Depending on your hotel, it should take around 5-15 minutes.

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Is the pit realy far from the playing field? I have heard a mile and I can't believe that.
Sadly, this is true. Depending on if you're a driver or not there's a shortcut tunnel, but most people still have the walk. And if you're on a field that's on the other side of the door, it can be even longer ><

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Do most teams go out for lunch? 45 minutes is not a long time to make that happen.
No, I don't think so. There's so much food just around it's not really worth it.

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Can you bring food to the pits?
No. However, there is a lot of places to eat around the pits, so you can dart outside if you need a bite. I always remember this one smoothie stand I must've went to at least five times.


Other notes:
Talk to teams on other fields if you can. Many teams have at least one contact per field for scouting in case they make it to Einstein. It's good to have that information.

The Wrap-Up party is amazing, you may need to prepare yourself for that level of awesome.

Don't forget that this is supposed to be one of the best experiences of the year. Just have fun, and good luck!

Chris is me 21-03-2010 10:50

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Originally Posted by Katie_UPS (Post 940073)
DON'T FORGET TO HAVE FUN AT THE WRAP-UP PARTY!

Don't forget an Einstein performance and a lot of time at the wrap up party are mutually exclusive! Knowing 706's robot, this could be an issue.

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Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 939536)
Well since 706 has committed to go to Atlanta I have a couple of questions. First, how many team members do you usually bring?

Usually this is constrained by who CAN go rather than constrained by having too many people that can. At least 10.

I never like to tell anyone they can't go to the Championship if they otherwise could, unless they're a terrible student or bad team member or something (I know of neither occurring?)

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Is the pit realy far from the playing field? I have heard a mile and I can't believe that.
I don't think a mile is right, but you should walk for about 10 minutes each way. I like leaving about 7 matches in advance (to give you extra time to gather person xyz who's NEVER in the pit, etc)

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Do most teams go out for lunch? 45 minutes is not a long time to make that happen.
I never did, just grabbed some overpriced vendor food. That, or my team's parents brought sandwiches and stuff outside and made them for me and my teammates. Sometimes other team's teammates. :)

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Can you bring food to the pits?
Nope, but outside's all good.

Tarzan19 21-03-2010 11:06

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This thread has been a great help to team 2345, as this is also our first year to Atlanta. I was thinking of starting a thread like this, but following the Chief Delphi rule, i searched FIRST. haha. Thanks again to all that posted.

AcesJames 21-03-2010 11:16

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Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but remember to get a really good night's sleep for the entirety of your stay in Atlanta. Having gone last year and having a complete blast, it's pretty easy to get carried away and want to stay up all night wandering around the hotel hallways, talking to friends and other teams, but you definitely pay for it the day afterward. Championships is probably the most tiring and sometimes nerve-racking event you can attend, but of course it's also the most fun! However, running back and forth between the field and the pits, as well as making last minute tweaks in between is no fun when you're running on 2 hours of sleep :p

MarkoRamius1086 21-03-2010 11:41

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For the subject of meals, my team has found it is just better to eat a breakfast at the hotel... assuming they have one... lunches in the commons (correct term for it?) for they have a few different snack and commercial vendors out there... and dinner at the Omni Complex.

Lunch is the tricky buisness as you pointed out. Being busy all of the days, we have found it best to go during one of the few, brief, points of convenience to go out to the commons, or run over to the Omni Food Court.


There is another question I would like to bring up. What is being done about the WiFi and other communication problems at Atlanta? Ignoring the abyssmal issues at the Israeli Reigonal... it still takes around seven to nine minutes on average to turn the field around! Despite having four feilds, I am afraid that Atlanta will have enormous delays.

Pausert 21-03-2010 11:47

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I think that is the reason that the beginning of qualification rounds have been moved up to Thursday evening.

robself705 21-03-2010 13:27

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 940270)
Don't forget an Einstein performance and a lot of time at the wrap up party are mutually exclusive! Knowing 706's robot, this could be an issue.

:) Thanks, we are very excited.

Mr. B, our hotel is four blocks away so we can walk.

BrendanB 21-03-2010 13:37

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One caution about the CNN food court, it is very crowded. Wait for food takes a while, try 30 minutes for food on Thursday at multiple places. My team opted for a couple of moms to get some food at supermarkets and eat in the parking lot. It takes a bit more organization, but there was no wait and didn't cost a lot. Food at hotel is good and we had dinner at restaurants next to our hotel (we stayed 15 mins away from the Dome in a lower costing hotel).

Good luck guys!

EricH 21-03-2010 14:00

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If you're near MARTA's Peachtree station, there's a food court in there. Marriott Marquis has a direct bridge, if you can find it.

Typical food when I went: Breakfast: at the hotel, CNN Center, or the above-mentioned food court, depending where we stayed (airport-type hotels have breakfast; downtown-type ones typically don't). Lunch: grab something from one of the stands. Dinner: CNN Center.

Transit: if you're near the airport, take the hotel's airport shuttle and take MARTA from the airport. If you're downtown, just walk. Unless, of course, you're carrying a lot of stuff in heavy boxes--then you try taking MARTA.

Oh, and never trust the FRC schedule. It's an hour or more "optimistic" as to when the elims/awards end.

kjolana1124 21-03-2010 16:10

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Originally Posted by AcesJames (Post 940277)
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but remember to get a really good night's sleep for the entirety of your stay in Atlanta. Having gone last year and having a complete blast, it's pretty easy to get carried away and want to stay up all night wandering around the hotel hallways, talking to friends and other teams, but you definitely pay for it the day afterward. Championships is probably the most tiring and sometimes nerve-racking event you can attend, but of course it's also the most fun! However, running back and forth between the field and the pits, as well as making last minute tweaks in between is no fun when you're running on 2 hours of sleep :p


This, however, does not mean you can't have awesome hallway parties at night with other teams. Those are encouraged.

Chris is me 21-03-2010 16:11

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Originally Posted by kjolana1124 (Post 940470)
This, however, does not mean you can't have awesome hallway parties at night with other teams. Those are encouraged.

Only on Saturday...

kjolana1124 21-03-2010 16:15

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 940471)
Only on Saturday...

Unless you're comparing scouting data with them... :P

Nawaid Ladak 22-03-2010 02:07

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 940369)
If you're near MARTA's Peachtree station, there's a food court in there. Marriott Marquis has a direct bridge, if you can find it.

Go to the Atriam Level, walk past the sports bar into the hallway with the glass dome halfway down, right before it, hang a left walk down that hallway and the elevators in the Marquis 1 building, turn right, go across the bridge and your at the Peachtree Center.

You can also get there from the Hilton and Haytt to the foodcourt without going outdoors.

hallway parties are fun!

artdutra04 22-03-2010 10:15

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Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak (Post 940863)
You can also get there from the Hilton and Haytt to the foodcourt without going outdoors.

Not quite. You need to walk from the outside of the Hilton lobby to the parking garage across the street to enter the skywalk that connects to the Peachtree Center.

LLM 22-03-2010 18:24

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You can park in a couple of gravel lots across the street from the Dome. You might also want to check out hotels between the airport and downtown for cheaper rooms and breakfast included. We've stayed at the Double Tree, Hilton, Holiday Inn Express, and Embassy Suites. Be sure to bargain with them for the best deal. Hotels are hurting right now and willing to do this. Staying a bit out of the downtown core works well if you have a charter bus. About a 10-25 minute drive in each morning but really not bad traffic that way in the morning. North of town is a different case-morning rush hour is all headed the same way you will be going-so I'd avoid it. We picnic a couple of days with parents making sandwiches, and we order pizza one day.

emilyg28 28-03-2010 14:38

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Hi all, THANKS for all this info so far. We will be traveling from Colorado so a road trip would be really long. Do you have tips for getting tools and other supplies (basically all the stuff not in the shipping crate with the robot) to Atlanta? Apologies if this is explained elsewhere (if you could point me there, that'd be great).

BTW, I've compiled several tips from other threads, would it be OK to repost them all here in one place? That way if any details have changed (some of the tips are from 2007) someone could give us an update.

Thanks,
Emily

NOV8R 28-03-2010 15:44

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Hi Emily, 1583 is driving a van to Atlanta with our tools, batts & Cart. Our team is flying so we may have room to help out. The regional staff is going to give your lead mentor my telephone number and email this week.

emilyg28 28-03-2010 16:15

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Wow, this would be great! I'm sure our mentor will be really happy to talk with you about this.

Thanks,
Emily

KarenH 30-03-2010 19:45

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Originally Posted by emilyg28 (Post 944182)
Hi all, THANKS for all this info so far. We will be traveling from Colorado so a road trip would be really long. Do you have tips for getting tools and other supplies (basically all the stuff not in the shipping crate with the robot) to Atlanta? Apologies if this is explained elsewhere (if you could point me there, that'd be great). ...

Thanks,
Emily

Our team has the same dilemma. Tools and small parts aren't too difficult; pack them in a sturdy, airline-safe box and check them as baggage. Some items could go in team members' luggage. Valuables should go as carry-on. Be sure to study the TSA guidelines. Sharp tools should be checked, but batteries must be carry-on. If you watch the weight, cost should not be a big deal. The box of tools could be someone's "second bag."

The most difficult part is the batteries. They are NOT allowed in checked baggage, but may be allowed in carry-on baggage. One year, each student on our team was handed a pair of batteries in a box, and they merrily went through airline check-in, TSA security, and onto the plane lugging batteries! Except one of our mentors, the last one to check in, was stopped. On the return flight, our students were lugging huge trophies instead of batteries. :) You could call the airline and ask, but if the TSA nixes the idea, you'll be at the airport with no way to bring your batteries.

It seems to me the safest idea would be to ship the batteries directly to your hotel via UPS Ground or something. Make sure you have trustworthy arrangements for shipping the batteries back home. Most of the downtown hotels have a concierge who can assist with this task. So call your hotel to verify what arrangements can be made.

Regarding other questions:

According to the Google map, the straight distance from the pits to the Georgia Dome is about 1000 ft., which is nowhere near a half mile, more like a quarter mile. The problem can be bottlenecks at the escalators, when crowds of people are all trying to go one way at the same time. The big distances are walking to the venue from downtown hotels--you have to cross the entire Centennial Park and pass Halls A & B of the GWCC, which are equivalent to several blocks. If you stay at the Wyndham Garden Inn, for example, it's about 14 blocks to the pits.

If you're thinking about saving money by renting cars and making picnic lunches, especially if you're staying downtown, be aware that you will have to pay for parking at the hotel AND at the venue. And the downtown area has no supermarkets to speak of. If you want to buy food at a supermarket, perhaps your team could rent just one vehicle for running errands, and everyone else can walk.

Don't expect the downtown hotels to have either free breakfast or free Internet. Usually they charge per day per computer. Sometimes you can sign up for their "membership" program and get free Internet.

Don't expect a free hotel shuttle from a downtown hotel to the airport, either. Only the airport hotels have a free airport shuttle. Our team stayed near the airport one year. The shuttle took us to the airport (1/2 hour), then we took MARTA to the Georgia Dome (another 1/2 hour). This is why our team now prefers to stay downtown. Airport taxis in Atlanta charge per person. Atlanta ain't cheap.

As others have mentioned, you can eat in the Peachtree Plaza (which is only open during normal mall hours, so no early breakfast) or in the CNN Center food court. Some places in the CNN Center are open for breakfast, and the food is comparatively cheap. I don't know if breakfast will be available in the GWCC food court this year. The Georgia Dome itself has a greater variety of food than most of the Regional venues I've been to.

One other thing for us Westerners. Spring weather in Atlanta is variable. If it's warm and sunny, lunch can be a picnic on the grass with Frisbees and shorts. These are the fun times people like to remember. But things can get really wild--pouring rain, gusty winds, lightning, freezing, hurricane, tornado--and you can get soaked in an instant. So usually teams have no problem walking from the hotels to the GWCC, but it's good to bring along weatherproof outerwear.

Bill_B 30-03-2010 21:28

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Originally Posted by ebarker (Post 939556)
if you look at this picture

you will see the dome and the GWCC. The lobby of building 'C' of the GWCC is just above the dome and to the left.
...

This is an essential part of your trip planning. Use google maps or mapquest to find those parts of the trip you need. For instance, I recommend the Publix market down MLK blvd to the west, but not for walking there. If you are doing the self-prepped lunch, this is a good place for the fixins'. reconnoiter at the parking lot or the courtyard to eat.

My point is that virtual walkthrus are possible online and will save you agonizing about where things are while you're in the area. You can also get the "mileages" from these sites to see how much shoeleather it will cost for the various options. If you use google maps, you can get walking directions and they now have a streetview option that shows pictures of things along the routes.

emilyg28 31-03-2010 00:21

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Karen - This information is PRICELESS!!!! Thanks so much.

KarenH 31-03-2010 03:22

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Originally Posted by Bill_B (Post 945994)
This is an essential part of your trip planning. Use google maps or mapquest to find those parts of the trip you need. ...

My point is that virtual walkthrus are possible online and will save you agonizing about where things are while you're in the area.

Google maps is useful for many things, but my favorite maps of the downtown area are provided by the GWCC. Click the two PDF map links on this page.

I like to print out a copy for myself, and copies to share. They are especially useful if you are staying downtown and walking, or if you need to know where to park. They are clear, and show the MARTA stations as well.

Be sure to check out the FIRST website as well. Usually they have pit maps and the recommended walking route. The latter is recommended for safety.

Bill_B 31-03-2010 08:31

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Just as a test here is a street view from google in the vicinity of the georgia dome.
street view aimed at the parking lot across the street. You can swing the view 360 degrees. go back to map and drop the little orange guy on a street for another view. This is not good for carrying around, but if you've never been there, you can get familiar with how it looks.
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/35378
shows the orange guy dragged from the zoom bar over next to the dome
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/35379
click and it deposits the guy and enables a view of the area.

I'm still experimenting to see if the other, non-street walking paths can be viewed too.

I like those GWCC guides too. I'll be printing a new set to replace the folded/crumpled/grungy pair from last year.

KathieK 05-04-2010 18:36

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
I've been volunteering at the Champs for many years. A few years ago I clocked 36 miles on the pedometer during my days at Championships; last year was "only" around 28 miles if I recall correctly. It's a lot of walking.

NEMO (Non-Engineering Mentor Organization) is hosting a session for all adult/college age mentors on Friday, room C207 in the GWCC. It's free, you don't need to belong to NEMO. We'll be discussing any non-technical topics/concerns that you want to talk about like fundraising, recruiting/retaining mentors, teambuilding, team organization, etc. Come and go as you need to between 10am and noon. This is a great way to network and make new FIRST connections!

Basel A 05-04-2010 21:39

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
How's the wifi? I assume there is wifi, but it certainly must be pretty laggy considering the number of people in the Dome and pits.

Jason Law 06-04-2010 15:42

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 948838)
How's the wifi? I assume there is wifi, but it certainly must be pretty laggy considering the number of people in the Dome and pits.

I believe there is no wi-fi in the pits. On page 14 of the essential information document it says

Quote:

Wireless internet access is now available in the concourse areas of the GWCC. This
access is not available in the pits. Daily rates start at $15.00. Teams will not be
allowed to set up their own wireless networks at the Championship. While we certainly
appreciate the positive potential team-created wireless networks could represent, there
is a chance such wireless networks could interfere with planned activities during the
event

Basel A 06-04-2010 20:40

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Law (Post 949284)
I believe there is no wi-fi in the pits. On page 14 of the essential information document it says...

That's frankly very unfortunate. 3G is so slow! Hahah.

Jeff Pahl 07-04-2010 22:44

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Bring your decongestant. Today's (Wed, 4/7) pollen count is only 5733...

For reference, anything over 120 is considered "Extremely High" :)

http://www.atlantaallergy.com/pollencount.aspx

Hopefully by next week they will be back down in the 1000-2000 range. One of the things I sure don't miss about not living in ATL anymore.

Lara Surmak 08-04-2010 11:14

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
At the GTR, theres usually a section for cheering and dancing and stuff, which they took out this year. Annoying, cause as my friend said, we're a party team. I was wondering if they had anything like this in Atlanta.

Horsegirrl 08-04-2010 11:27

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Surmak (Post 949962)
At the GTR, theres usually a section for cheering and dancing and stuff, which they took out this year. Annoying, cause as my friend said, we're a party team. I was wondering if they had anything like this in Atlanta.

No, however you can party it up in the stands! Just the Georgia dome asks that you don't bring poster boards, cause it blocks others vision!

BrendanB 08-04-2010 11:35

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Surmak (Post 949962)
At the GTR, theres usually a section for cheering and dancing and stuff, which they took out this year. Annoying, cause as my friend said, we're a party team. I was wondering if they had anything like this in Atlanta.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horsegirrl (Post 949968)
No, however you can party it up in the stands! Just the Georgia dome asks that you don't bring poster boards, cause it blocks others vision!

You can definitely party in the stands, but please do so with everyone else behind you in consideration. :) If your team wants to party in the stands you can, but you will get yelled at to sit down or move. I know team 33 was asked to move to the side of the field because they were blocking vision, and they did very graciously. And it is not just with signs, just standing up blocks vision.

NOTE to everyone! Please do not stand up in the stands during a match. There are other people in the stands such as scouts and spectators who cannot see when people stand up. The slope in the dome is really shallow so if you stand 20 rows in front of someone, you are still blocking the field. And when someone close to the field stands (don't know why, they are already really close to the field), everyone has to stand behind them and it is still hard to see over/impossible. We were in the back of the stands so we could get power (we are changing this so we can go further down the stands) and in front of the handicapped section. We were annoyed, but we just stood up with our clip boards and scouted the robots we could see, but those in wheel chairs do not have that ability. :o

Please don't take the word "stands" literally and stand in the stands. ;)

Good luck in Atlanta!

fuzzy1718 08-04-2010 12:00

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Typically when are divisions posted? I'm going nuts waiting to input teams for scouting.

Mark McLeod 08-04-2010 12:08

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy1718 (Post 949985)
Typically when are divisions posted? I'm going nuts waiting to input teams for scouting.

FIRST posts them only when we're not looking....

James1902 08-04-2010 12:11

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 949988)
FIRST posts them only when we're not looking....

<closes eyes tightly> I do believe in Champs divisions, I do believe in Champs divisions, I do believe in Champs divisions...<opens eyes> Dang there still not here :eek:

Lara Surmak 08-04-2010 13:36

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
When reading the essential information for the championships, it said that working on the robots and setting up pits on wednesday was ok, but a couple pages later it said teams couldn't do that.

Racer26 08-04-2010 13:40

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
This year, they are allowing work on robots, as well as pit setup, wifi encryption, etc on Wednesday night. In past years, they have not. I suspect conflicting documentation is a result of poor year to year updating.

thefro526 08-04-2010 14:23

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Random Tips:

Bring the opposite bumpers or bumper cover to what you need in a match, a spare battery, and some simple tools so you don't HAVE to walk back to the pits. In the past we've had matches that were relatively close together and we would chose to stay out in the dome and wait for our next match because it didn't make sense to go back to the pits for 15 minutes just to walk out again.

Have someone in the stands give you updates via text or phone call so you know what match is on the field. You can't always rely on announcements or the feed to the pits. I've also found that you should leave about 4-5 matches ahead of your scheduled match just to make sure you'll be there in time. I always allotted our team about 10 minutes to get from the pits to the field last year. This time will vary depending on what division you're in, Curie and Archimedes Pits are closest to the Exit of the Pits, but the fields are furthest from the Entrance to the Dome, and the opposite is true for Newton and Galileo.

Racer26 08-04-2010 14:47

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 950105)
This time will vary depending on what division you're in, Curie and Archimedes Pits are closest to the Exit of the Pits, but the fields are furthest from the Entrance to the Dome, and the opposite is true for Newton and Galileo.

I suspect this is 100% intentional.

KathieK 08-04-2010 15:26

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lara Surmak (Post 950073)
When reading the essential information for the championships, it said that working on the robots and setting up pits on wednesday was ok, but a couple pages later it said teams couldn't do that.

I think it got changed. Page 5 of the latest document indicates the new rules under Load-In. Page 9 refers to this change in the section for Registration and Uncrating.

Lara Surmak 08-04-2010 16:07

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KathieK (Post 950195)
I think it got changed. Page 5 of the latest document indicates the new rules under Load-In. Page 9 refers to this change in the section for Registration and Uncrating.

That's where i read it. It just seemed like the same thing to me. And if they changed it, why leave the section on page 9 about not being able to work on the robot or pits?

RoboMom 08-04-2010 16:53

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy1718 (Post 949985)
Typically when are divisions posted? I'm going nuts waiting to input teams for scouting.

they are up

Mark McLeod 08-04-2010 17:08

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Wait...I wasn't looking....

KarenH 08-04-2010 23:52

Re: Never been to championship before got questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzzy1718 (Post 949985)
Typically when are divisions posted? I'm going nuts waiting to input teams for scouting.

They've had the general list of teams up for awhile, but I noticed that between yesterday and today, the count went up by one. I suspect FIRST is still waiting to make sure all the teams are registered before they make the divisions.

RoboMom, I just looked and I didn't see--

Wait--people are discussing divisions on CD! Here's a link at the FIRST site, but they sure hid it well. It's probably not final yet. The link will not take you directly there.


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