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ErikEdhlund 24-03-2010 17:37

Am I mentor?
 
This is a question that I have been trying to answer this past year. I am a alumni from Team 111 WildStang. I graduated in 2009. This past year I returned to WildStang to lead the student section of our Strategy Team. Basically I help got the students organized for competitions and help them decide on what data we want and how we want to collect it. I also help them stay focused at the competitions. Do I classify myself as a mentor or just as a volunteer? I know I am legally not chaperone since I am only 19, but do I deserve to be called a mentor?

Mike Betts 24-03-2010 17:42

Re: Am I mentor?
 
Erik,

In my opinion, yes.

Mike

Ty Tremblay 24-03-2010 17:44

Re: Am I mentor?
 
In my opinion, you're a mentor. In FIRST, the distinction between mentors and volunteers is team affiliation. If you're an inspector at an event, you're a volunteer because you are essentially not affiliated with a team while you're at the event. If you're helping a team during build season or during an event, then you have a team affiliation and are thus a mentor.

Hope this helps.

EricLeifermann 24-03-2010 17:47

Re: Am I mentor?
 
Being a mentor doesn't have an age requirement. As long as you are positively influencing someone you could be called a mentor and a role model.

JaneYoung 24-03-2010 18:19

Re: Am I mentor?
 
I once had a thought about creating something like a sub-forum for young mentors to create threads in and have discussions like this. I envisioned it to be something along this line - where students who have graduated from high school and moved on into helping on the mentor side of things could share thoughts and concerns. Young mentors can often be supported and listened to or advised in areas of concern for them by the mentors who have been around the block a few times can understand. Of course, if you are Al Skierkiewicz, your block has become trenched. :D

On teams, I think there are volunteer roles. Those roles are valuable and have to do with a lot of the organizational side of things or of providing something for the team. Our lead mentor may get out the word that he or the team needs a volunteer to help set up our sponsor reception or pick up something on the way to the shop. That's a little different than a mentor who works with the team directly, helping the team prepare for competition in specific areas. It is true that mentors can have a much bigger impact on the team and on individuals than in the specific area they work in. That is the mark of a true mentor - their impact. They can't force the impact, it just happens. I came across a post that Andy Baker made a while back. He was talking about mentors learning to empower others. I'll try to find that post - it was most excellent and may help you as you mull this over.

Be back in a little while.

Ok, found it. I like the lessons in this post that Andy offers to us. He teaches us to listen to the wisdom of other teams like our HoF team, FRC 191, and that mentors grow and develop just as students do and just as the FRC program does and has done.

After reading it, ask yourself a couple of questions:
1. do you hope to inspire and encourage the students you are working with?
2. do you hope to empower them by helping them develop skills and deepen their understanding of the importance of doing their job well?

Jane

The Lucas 24-03-2010 18:36

Re: Am I mentor?
 
Yup, you are a mentor now. If it feels odd now it gets even weirder when the last student who "knew you as a student" graduates. Then you are old :ahh:. Happened to me a couple years ago.

They did a neat segment at Chesapeake Regional. They handed the mic to Head Ref Steve Shade, Lead Inspector Anne Shade & Announcer/Emcee Greg Needel to talk about the transition from HS students on a FIRST team to engineers and mentors of a FIRST team. It made me reminisce a bit about meeting when we were all students and before Steve and Anne were married.

thefro526 24-03-2010 19:29

Re: Am I mentor?
 
I encountered the same problem earlier on this season.

I had a really hard time adjusting to the added responsibility and power of being a mentor. I felt strange giving kids I once worked alongside of directions to do things. Now I've gotten into my groove, so to say, and I learned what kind of mentor I need to be for my team. I found that the best and most comfortable way for me to mentor is as more of an Older Sibling.

Captain Slacker 24-03-2010 19:43

Re: Am I mentor?
 
On Team Paragon we gave the students who returned sometime in the four years after high school the role of "junior mentor". These mentors guide us at the site, but do not count as chaperones individually. They do, however, count in our rule that there must be two mentors in attendance when a student is under the care of the team. They also attend the mentor meetings and get to treated as the other mentors would.

synth3tk 24-03-2010 19:49

Re: Am I mentor?
 
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Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 942749)
I encountered the same problem earlier on this season.

I had a really hard time adjusting to the added responsibility and power of being a mentor. I felt strange giving kids I once worked alongside of directions to do things. Now I've gotten into my groove, so to say, and I learned what kind of mentor I need to be for my team. I found that the best and most comfortable way for me to mentor is as more of an Older Sibling.

That's the approach I'm taking, too. At least for my first year or two as a mentor. It feels weird, but the students don't seem to mind, so I'm fine with it.

hektormagee 24-03-2010 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheermaster111 (Post 942690)
This is a question that I have been trying to answer this past year. I am a alumni from Team 111 WildStang. I graduated in 2009. This past year I returned to WildStang to lead the student section of our Strategy Team. Basically I help got the students organized for competitions and help them decide on what data we want and how we want to collect it. I also help them stay focused at the competitions. Do I classify myself as a mentor or just as a volunteer? I know I am legally not chaperone since I am only 19, but do I deserve to be called a mentor?

You are definitely a mentor. In my team, Two Alumni, one from my team and one from Thunder Chickens, help my teammate and I lead scouting. They're just as much of a mentor as any of the other mentors on my team. They have really helped. You are even a mentor by the Dictionary Definition!

men·tor   [men-tawr, -ter]
–noun
1.
a wise and trusted counselor or teacher.
2.
an influential senior sponsor or supporter.
–verb (used without object)
3.
to act as a mentor: She spent years mentoring to junior employees.
–verb (used with object)
4.
to act as a mentor to: The brash young executive did not wish to be mentored by anyone.



Just keep up the good work!

DarkFlame145 24-03-2010 19:54

Re: Am I mentor?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheermaster111 (Post 942690)
This is a question that I have been trying to answer this past year. I am a alumni from Team 111 WildStang. I graduated in 2009. This past year I returned to WildStang to lead the student section of our Strategy Team. Basically I help got the students organized for competitions and help them decide on what data we want and how we want to collect it. I also help them stay focused at the competitions. Do I classify myself as a mentor or just as a volunteer? I know I am legally not chaperone since I am only 19, but do I deserve to be called a mentor?

You are teaching the students so yes you would be a mentor

fordchrist675 24-03-2010 20:00

Re: Am I mentor?
 
Hey im almost in the same boat. I graduated last year, and came back to mentor the team. So you are a mentor in my books. Always great when FIRST alumni decides to give back.

DonRotolo 24-03-2010 20:13

Re: Am I mentor?
 
I think you have your answer: Yes, you are a mentor.

jblay 24-03-2010 20:19

Re: Am I mentor?
 
I am going through almost the identical thing this season. In my opinion alumni is a classification for people who graduated from a team and aren't as involved in FIRST anymore while a volunteer is not affiliated with any team. You help guide the kids on your team, you are a mentor.

Dancin103 24-03-2010 20:20

Re: Am I mentor?
 
Absolutely YES!

Cass


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