Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

Happened to scan over the list of matches that was put up on coderedrobotics. 217 plays against 469 TWICE! 469 also has a match against 33, and another against 910. 217 and 910 are with each other once, and against each other once. I believe 910 is also with 33 once as well. Those are just a few that I noticed with a quick lookover, sure there are some other good matches in there.

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

Match #4: 21-0, ouch!

If 217 is in 1st, they will either pick 469 or Paul will indeed fire the lead strategist.

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

The high score should be attributed to 2612, they primed the loop and cleaned up any mess. They were one of the best robot at Cass Tech and the ability of the drivers to control their robot is excellent. Actually, I'm amazed they weren't mentioned as one of the most offensive robots at Troy.

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

217, 469, 910, 33, 226, 2612

These are the powerhouse teams at Troy (in my opinion).
All but Foley and Bees were at Cass Tech, and I think 469 might actually benefit more with an alliance with 910 rather than 217. That just leaves 2 of the biggest and best team's to pair up for the win.

When a mommy and a daddy love eachother very much...

(Birds and bees for all of you people who don't get my complicated jokes)

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

21 points isn't a bad seeding score...

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

I predict that 308 will seed very high. They have 45 QPs after their first two matches, and they have upcoming matches with 469, 217, and 910. To make the QPs even higher, they have 3 matches against 469 (it's good for them that they get the winner's score for QPs).

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

well, 469 has a 21-0 match *and* a 24-0 match. 217 has their work cut out for them for that first spot.

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

In 2010, 469 is spelled "Seventy-One."

Just saw their qualifying match, that is absolutely nuts. 18-0 before their opponent started shoving in the extra balls to maximize their own score.

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

okay. This is nuts. I just got done seeing 469 and 216 together. The other alliance didn't bother scoring for themselves and score for the other alliance. Theres probably going to be a lot of that when 469 is up. Its a bit sad though...

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

No doubt, the chickens have an excellent robot. Many people forget, however, that their performance at their first district was also influenced by the fact that they had already played a regional event. That helped them come in with a strategy, a robot that had few bugs left, and a drive team that had already played against excellent competition.

I'm not saying that to detract from 217 in any way. They are clearly one of the robots to beat this year. I AM saying that to point out that a number of other teams - 910, 33, 27, and 67, have robots that look just as deadly, and have been steadily improving at a very good clip.

State Championships is going to be incredible. I won't bother making a prediction about Troy - they're too far into the qualifying matches for it to be a guess anymore.

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

Anyone else think that 469's method is a little unorthodox or unfair?

I, and many others, don't even find watching there matches entertaining.

Not sure if I'd call this Gracious Professionalism..

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

This has absolutely nothing to do with gracious professionalism. They simply built a very strong robot that is within the rules.

any team that was there today had the opportunity to build a similar machine, and did not. It's just good engineering.

EDIT: un-GP would be something like them rubbing their success in another team's face, or actively plotting to cheat to win. Which they don't, 469 has certainly earned my respect and admiration after years of being around FIRST events.

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

This has already been gone over many a time, and I believe the overall opininon is that 469 was very smart and brave to try such a rash/crazy/effective stratagy while other teams opted for a more genaric way of play, the way many people think the game "should" be played.

I applaud 469 and hope they've been scouting!

On a side note after today (friday) 469 is in front and 33 is right at their heals. 217 suprisingly finished around 15th. However, tomarrow 33 and 469 have matches togeather and against each other so its going to be close race!

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I look forward to the chance to play against them at MSC - preferably not in the quarter or semifinal matches, but I think it will be a great challenge just the same. They pulled off a very original and risky design that has generated a lot of excitement.

Re: Troy Athens Regional
 

I'm sorry but that match where 217 scored for 469 just was----wrong. I must just be old and don't get all this touchy feely , everybody is a winner stuff. I love watching the teams helping each other behind the curtains and even helping their rivals get their bots started on the field. I saw a 217 mentor do just that today. But scoring against yourself is just UNAMERICAN!!!! Yes, i understand you play by the rules you are given but it can still just be wrong. All i can see is if 33 gets some teams to score for them and break -up what ever deals were made. I had to say that last thing to make a point. That is what new teams and outsiders see that don't know 469 and 217. All they see is shenanigans. I sure hope the mc explained what was going on. the webcast sound wasn't working.