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Adam Freeman 29-03-2010 20:45

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Dinsmoor (Post 945147)
For the individual team, 67 has an autonomous mode where they shoot and score 4 balls. They start in the far zone, kick three, then traverse the bump and kick one in the middle zone.

It's a crazy good autonomous.

Our autonomous mode is actually setup to kick 5 balls. We consistently kick 4 balls, but we usually misfire on the 5th ball.

I'd say we consistently score 1 out of 4. Our best so far is 3 out of 5.

Alot of times the shots are on track, but they bounce off the chains.

Too me it is more important to kick the balls than it is to score them. Although, its really exciting when they do score.

Alex Dinsmoor 29-03-2010 20:48

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
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Originally Posted by Epic (Post 945247)
Best auton thus far:

2851 making what is believed to be the first "469 auton". We successfully wedged ourselves in the tunnel and our treaded wheels kept us there.

Chas_G of Team developed an auton for defending against 469 at Troy. It worked wonderfully (even with their mechanums), and did something similar to what you described.

He also lent his code to many other teams at Troy to use :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam Freeman (Post 945341)
Our autonomous mode is actually setup to kick 5 balls. We consistently kick 4 balls, but we usually misfire on the 5th ball.

I'd say we consistently score 1 out of 4. Our best so far is 3 out of 5.

Alot of times the shots are on track, but they bounce off the chains.

Too me it is more important to kick the balls than it is to score them. Although, its really exciting when they do score.

That would explain why I only thought you went for four. Still though, that's a really impressive autonomous mode.

I can agree with the chain issues; it seems that they are the reason a team doesn't score all of their balls in auto (us included!).

And it's definitely more important to get the balls into your zone. Sure, a few points are nice, but with the balls in your zone it allows for two things: 1. Your balls are out of your opponent's home zone 2. The balls are in your home zone, so you can easily score them.

ttldomination 29-03-2010 20:52

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
1261, 343, and 2815 made 4 in finals at Palmetto.

We(1261) would consistently make 1, and 2815 would consistently make one. The points went between 2-4 depending on how our shots/343's shots went.

But regardless, the autonomous buffer was still extremely comforting when entering teleop.

dodar 29-03-2010 20:52

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
We have ours set up for 2 different sets, our slow setting(3-ball) kicks only the far 3, our Fast setting(5-ball) kicks the far three and middle 2

our slow setting scores 1 everytime, 2 50% of the time and we have scored 3 in a couple matches

our fast setting kicks all 5 85% of the time and always scores 1-2, scores 3 about 30% of the time and we scored 4 balls in 1 match and the 5th ball was kicked into the front zone

(all these scores are from our robot alone, not counting our other alliances number scored)

Chas_G 29-03-2010 20:55

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
I think that 573 should be up there. We have one that clears all 3 balls from zone 3, and often scores them. We also had a 469 program that blocked them out of the tunnel, and our alliance was the first to actually beat them with that strategy.

Alex Dinsmoor 29-03-2010 20:58

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chas_G (Post 945354)
I think that 573 should be up there. We have one that clears all 3 balls from zone 3, and often scores them. We also had a 469 program that blocked them out of the tunnel, and our alliance was the first to actually beat them with that strategy.

Your auton is crazy! If you're not watching 573's robot for the first few seconds of the match, then you missed them shooting all three balls into their zone, scoring some of them.

Now to make an auton that shoots the balls, then goes and blocks 469 :P

Tom Line 29-03-2010 21:06

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
I WISH we could go over that bump as beautifully as some of the other teams. We had a bit of a problem with it at West Michigan and one or two teams noticed and tried to use it against us, but we've got it fixed now (our ball grabber was a bit too far forward).

At West Michigan, we kicked the 3 in the back zone and averaged 2.1 points per match in auton. I'd love to get all 3, but it is very difficult. We bounce in the middle region intentionally to get the balls to settle down - hitting the backboard or the ramp up to the goal is a quick way to miss every time.

For the longest time we'd bounce our second shot off the second bump every single time. We fixed that in the last two matches at West Michigan. At this point, going into states, I'm wagering that almost every bot there will at least be able to get 1 in the close zone, and should be able to advance the middle balls, so we aren't changing anything.

Epic 29-03-2010 21:07

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
You'd have to be pretty fast to kick and then block 469.


We used our 469 auton at Cass and it worked wonderfully. All of these autons are bad for 469, though, as their amazing contraption sits idlely in some matches.

legendaryghost 29-03-2010 21:16

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
I'm with Team 1922 and at both of our regionals most teams didn't even get 1 ball in consistently which ended up giving us a big advantage because we shoot 2 in the majority of matches unless another robot blocks the goal that is.


Alex Dinsmoor 29-03-2010 21:18

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Epic (Post 945370)
You'd have to be pretty fast to kick and then block 469.

573 could do it. Their robot is in the bottom corner of the video as the match starts.

waialua359 29-03-2010 21:26

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
We are glad that we finally perfected our near zone auto to never interfere with any alliance partner that tries to score from mid and far. Our ball never touches the chain at all and perfectly goes into the goal on the fly at an angle, all at the last 5 seconds of auto.

ExTexan 29-03-2010 23:25

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
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I'd say we consistently score 1 out of 4. Our best so far is 3 out of 5.
I could have sworn you scored 4 at Wayne State.

akeisic 30-03-2010 01:02

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
I'd put our alliance up for the best coordination. Once we formed our alliance, 294, 968 and 980 coordinated our auto modes to perfection. Although, we don't launch the 3rd from the back, this vid best shows the coordination...http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/match/2010ca_sf2m2

As already mentioned, the two alliances managed to combine for 9 in the first match of the finals. http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/match/2010ca_f1m1

Ian Curtis 30-03-2010 01:16

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
I haven't seen many matches this year. I was at BAE on Saturday, and I've watched the elims of two FiM events. Typically they don't cover the whole field in one shot, so it's pretty hard to judge autonomous on a webcast.

However, 1519's autonomous definitely stole the show at BAE. Having 5-8 balls in their near zone and far away from their opponents goal was a huge momentum swing in their favor. When 78 tied it up, 1519's alliance skipped autonomous mode and lost. When they put their autonomous mode back in and took a deep breath, they overwhelmingly won their second match to seal the deal.

Despite the fact that this is year has a pretty low key autonomous, I think it might be my favorite. It doesn't have a point value associated with it so it isn't hugely obvious (see 2006, 2008) but it isn't undervalued in most matches either (2007, 2009).

Kibaspirit 30-03-2010 08:07

Re: Best 2010 Autonomous
 
The best autonomous I've SEEN was 1918's far zone. They went up to each ball, stopped, and kicked them into the near zone. They frequently scored. From what I saw, they never had problems with running the ball over.


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