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EricH 07-04-2010 00:52

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Guess I better clarify, then.

Given: Team X is in eliminations by some means.
Given: Team X is undefeated after eliminations.
Then: Team X won the event.

BTW, I thought of another case that would make my previous statement untrue:

Given: Team X is in eliminations.
Given: Team X is undefeated going into the eliminations.
At some point, Team X wins a match (we'll assume undefeated at that point too), but is too busted up to continue. Team Y is brought in as a backup to continue, and the alliance drops their next two matches.

Team X is still undefeated. (You could argue that as a member of the alliance, they took two losses, to which I say: They weren't on the field, were they? That's like saying that the [pick your baseball team] lost and a pitcher who wasn't playing that day got the loss as well as the pitcher who pitched the loss.)

Chris is me 07-04-2010 00:59

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 949601)
or WPI, you'd seed pretty well--well enough to be noticed, quite probably, and almost certainly a backup. At NC or L.A., you'd be pretty much out.

22nd at WPI is basically only above robots that were significantly broken for parts of the event. WPI had 28 teams...

XaulZan11 07-04-2010 01:02

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
I think I'm going to tell my team not to show to any of our matches in Atlanta. Just to say we went undefeated at the World Championship.

waialua359 07-04-2010 03:18

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XaulZan11 (Post 949615)
I think I'm going to tell my team not to show to any of our matches in Atlanta. Just to say we went undefeated at the World Championship.

As long as its not any matches with us, that is perfectly fine.:)

Dancin103 07-04-2010 19:59

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak (Post 949522)
25 was actually one penalty free match from being undefeated at New Jersey (and for the season). It sort of reminds you of this and this

Most definately YES!

Cass

DonRotolo 07-04-2010 20:03

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
1676 was completely undefeated in Virginia, playing only 6 elimination matches to win the regional.

turkbot 07-04-2010 21:17

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik (Post 949551)


Yup, Josh has it right. It happened twice in Waterloo. The first time was a complete goof up on our part, we totally missed the presence of one of our partners in the defensive zone. The second time we were heading back over the bump to the defensive zone, but at the same time our partner zoomed through the tunnel and beat us into the zone. Either way, they were both a couple of embarrassing mistakes that Kyle Willick (The Commander) won't live down for a while.

(On the other hand, this goes down in a long line of embarrassing mistakes by Simbot coaches. In 2008, Derek Bessette had the drive team hurdle the wrong colour ball twice at the start of a match at the Midwest Regional.)

Anyways, back to the topic of undefeated teams, here is what the Simbot Research & Statistics teams has come up with:

Code:

             
Team
  R Desc  Result  Record   Standings      
359
  Arizona  Regional Winner  8-0-2  1       
1124
  Connecticut  Regional Winner  8-0-2  1   
148
  Dallas  Regional Winner  9-0-0  1     
217
  Cass Tech   Regional Winner  12-0-0  1           
359
  Hawaii  Regional Winner  12-0-0  1     
368
  Hawaii  Regional Winner  12-0-0  2     
1732
  Midwest  Regional Winner  10-0-0  2           
1986  Minnesota North Star  Regional Winner  9-0-0  2     
71  Minnesota North Star  Regional Winner  8-0-1  1     
1208  St. Louis  Regional Winner  11-0-1  1     
25  Las Vegas  Regional Winner  10-0-0  1       
1114
  Greater Toronto  Regional Winner  9-0-1  1     
1114
  Pittsburgh  Regional Winner  11-0-1  1     
971  Silicon Valley  Regional Winner  10-0-0  1     
254  Silicon Valley  Regional Winner  9-0-1  2     
1676
  Virginia  Regional Winner  9-0-0  1         
1114
  Waterloo  Regional Winner  11-0-0  1     



All this and more will be included in the 2010 Team 1114 Championship Scouting Database, which will be released shortly after the announcement of the Championship divisions.

Team 2481 was undefeated (10-0-0) in qualification matches at the Wisconsin Regional. We were also the #1 seed and went undefeated through match one of finals (5-0-0). After that match we (along with our alliance partners) had "undetermined" loss of communications. Our overall record was 15-2-0. Overall, great year for a third year team. Thanks teams 706 and 3363.

jspatz1 07-04-2010 23:41

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
I guess I ruled out any likelyhood of a team going undefeated in quals, but not making elims. Technically possible. I only searched event winners. If anyone knows of such as team, chime in. Perhaps 1114's database could quickly tell if there was any such team.

Karthik 08-04-2010 00:17

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jspatz1 (Post 949811)
I guess I ruled out any likelyhood of a team going undefeated in quals, but not making elims. Technically possible. I only searched event winners. If anyone knows of such as team, chime in. Perhaps 1114's database could quickly tell if there was any such team.

Ask and you shall receive.
(Roberto was quick with this query)

Here are all the undefeated teams who did not make the eliminations. Naturally they're all from Israel, because of the limited number of matches they played due to technical difficulties.

Code:

             
Team
  R Desc  Result  Record   Standings      
2215  Israel  Did not make eliminations  2-0-2  37     
1946
  Israel  Did not make eliminations  2-0-1  12     
1577
  Israel  Did not make eliminations  1-0-2  35     
1574
  Israel  Did not make eliminations  1-0-2  49






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