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jspatz1 06-04-2010 22:37

Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
After going undefeated at North Star, we were curious just how many teams did it this year at other events. Turns out the list is much longer than I expected. By my count, it was done 19 times. 2 teams did it at more than one event (1114 & 359). 1114 (3 events) & 971 (1 event) are the only undefeated teams for the season.

Here's my list. Please add omissions, or correct mistakes.

359 @ Arizona & Hawaii
217 @ Cass Tech
25 @ Las Vegas
1676 @ Virginia
1114 @ Pittsburg & Waterloo & Toronto (!!!)
2630 @ Isreal
2669 @ Isreal
971 @ Silicon Valley
254 @ Silicon Valley
1732 @ Midwest
1208 @ St. Louis
148 @ Dallas
368 @ Hawaii
1124 @ Connecticut
71 @ North Star
1986 @ North Star

Basel A 06-04-2010 22:40

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
217 at Cass tech District (18-0-0)

Joe Ross 06-04-2010 22:46

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
I think 356 on your list should be 359. If that's the case, you have them twice.

971 is also undefeated for the season (only attending 1 regional). The last time 971 was undefeated prior to the championship, they won the championship.

keehun 06-04-2010 22:48

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525 was REALLY close... They only lost in the Finals at Minnesota 10,000 Lakes.

jspatz1 06-04-2010 22:56

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 949504)
217 at Cass tech District (18-0-0)

I had other mistakes, but they were in the list.

Cory 06-04-2010 22:57

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1114 isn't undefeated. They got DQ'ed twice at Waterloo.

Nawaid Ladak 06-04-2010 22:57

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
25 was actually one penalty free match from being undefeated at New Jersey (and for the season). It sort of reminds you of this and this

Tom Bottiglieri 06-04-2010 23:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nawaid Ladak (Post 949522)
It sort of reminds you of this and this

They only lost the important ones... :rolleyes:

jspatz1 06-04-2010 23:02

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 949521)
1114 isn't undefeated. They got DQ'ed twice at Waterloo.

Not sure that qualifies as defeated. Not reflected in their record at least. I'm not touting any particular team, just sharing some research.

keehun 06-04-2010 23:07

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cory (Post 949521)
1114 isn't undefeated. They got DQ'ed twice at Waterloo.

How did they get DQ'd?.. I just never seen it... and certainly not from a team like 1114!

waialua359 06-04-2010 23:09

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I was shocked that for a 28 team regional in HI with 12 matches, we never had to play against 368. Both of us at 18-0-0 will never happen again.
To me, it involves a lot of luck.
If you told me at the end of build season that we would have no losses for 39 matches in a row and counting, I wouldn't have believed it, ever. I keep telling our 1st year students, its never going to be like this again.

Josh Fox 06-04-2010 23:11

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keehun (Post 949530)
How did they get DQ'd?.. I just never seen it... and certainly not from a team like 1114!

Now I don't know for sure, but what I thought I heard happen was that, in an attempt to maximize their seeding points, 1114 went into their opponents home zone to score balls for them while another robot on their alliance was already in that zone.

This happened to 67 at MSC as well in one match.

jspatz1 06-04-2010 23:14

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Fox (Post 949536)
Now I don't know for sure, but what I thought I heard happen was that, in an attempt to maximize their seeding points, 1114 went into their opponents home zone to score balls for them while another robot on their alliance was already in that zone.

This happened to 67 at MSC as well in one match.

Certainly wouldn't call that a defeat. Just a "Doh!" moment.

The Lucas 06-04-2010 23:16

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jspatz1 (Post 949503)
25 @ Las Vegas

25 is 31-1-0 after NJ and NV regionals. Their only loss was due to 14 DOGMA penalties in NJ final match 2.

In 2006, 25 also attended NJ and NV winning both with a record of 31-0-0.

Viva Las Vegas! That trip to Vegas seems to be 25's lucky charm for the season. Will they attend Vegas again any time soon?

Karthik 06-04-2010 23:33

Re: Undefeated Teams at Regional Events
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Fox (Post 949536)
Now I don't know for sure, but what I thought I heard happen was that, in an attempt to maximize their seeding points, 1114 went into their opponents home zone to score balls for them while another robot on their alliance was already in that zone.

This happened to 67 at MSC as well in one match.



Yup, Josh has it right. It happened twice in Waterloo. The first time was a complete goof up on our part, we totally missed the presence of one of our partners in the defensive zone. The second time we were heading back over the bump to the defensive zone, but at the same time our partner zoomed through the tunnel and beat us into the zone. Either way, they were both a couple of embarrassing mistakes that Kyle Willick (The Commander) won't live down for a while.

(On the other hand, this goes down in a long line of embarrassing mistakes by Simbot coaches. In 2008, Derek Bessette had the drive team hurdle the wrong colour ball twice at the start of a match at the Midwest Regional.)

Anyways, back to the topic of undefeated teams, here is what the Simbot Research & Statistics teams has come up with:

Code:

             
Team
  R Desc  Result  Record   Standings      
359
  Arizona  Regional Winner  8-0-2  1       
1124
  Connecticut  Regional Winner  8-0-2  1   
148
  Dallas  Regional Winner  9-0-0  1     
217
  Cass Tech   Regional Winner  12-0-0  1           
359
  Hawaii  Regional Winner  12-0-0  1     
368
  Hawaii  Regional Winner  12-0-0  2     
1732
  Midwest  Regional Winner  10-0-0  2           
1986  Minnesota North Star  Regional Winner  9-0-0  2     
71  Minnesota North Star  Regional Winner  8-0-1  1     
1208  St. Louis  Regional Winner  11-0-1  1     
25  Las Vegas  Regional Winner  10-0-0  1       
1114
  Greater Toronto  Regional Winner  9-0-1  1     
1114
  Pittsburgh  Regional Winner  11-0-1  1     
971  Silicon Valley  Regional Winner  10-0-0  1     
254  Silicon Valley  Regional Winner  9-0-1  2     
1676
  Virginia  Regional Winner  9-0-0  1         
1114
  Waterloo  Regional Winner  11-0-0  1     



All this and more will be included in the 2010 Team 1114 Championship Scouting Database, which will be released shortly after the announcement of the Championship divisions.


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