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GOOD LUCK ALLIANCE #2 - Wildstang (111), Thunderbolts (2630) and The Holy Cows (1538)! :)

Hope to see some good matches :)

How'd that ball get stuck in the return for Q 4-2?

from what I heard on the webcast, somehow the ramp went into compression / was depressed and made a gap between the end of the ramp and the cross bar from the tower causing the ball to get stuck and all balls after to get stuck behind it.

please tell me someone has a recording of the MC shaking his thing speach. I want to do a techno remix of that.

As an alumni I'm beginning to get very frustrated by the lack of follow through with penalty assessments. Alliance number 3 had almost two timeouts essentially. And a game replayed where there was no advantage what so ever. If anything the number 6 alliance where the ones that were at a disadvantage as those balls that come in from alliance 3 come in their direction. I really am frustrated by this entire event.

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Originally Posted by Derbyshire (Post 954469)

And a game replayed where there was no advantage what so ever. If anything the number 6 alliance where the ones that were at a disadvantage as those balls that come in from alliance 3 come in their direction.

It's not a matter of one team getting an advantage over another. The replay was due to an arena fault which is specifically stated in the rules to cause a replay.

so they should have stopped the match then. I mean I'm been out of first for a long time but field defaults never stopped matches before and I have been involved in games where goals and sidebars came apart. It just doesn't seem like the rules are as strict as they use to be which is a shame as teams that are designed to tough and put the time in to make sure their electronics work get penalized by these actions.

How is it penalizing a team? The field broke and they re-played it as a match to make sure no team got an advantage for the broken field

Goodness sir for it not being about a team getting an advantage and then saying it is to guarantee that there wasn't an advantage you clearly demonstrate my point. :cool:

Under the rules, if a field fault happens, at any time, the match is to be replayed. They don't stop matches unless it's really bad; as a matter of fact, it's never called for in the rules. What a field fault is is up to the FTA and Head Ref to determine.

And there was an advantage: If there are no more balls coming down the return due to a jam, then balls are supposed to come in from the side. If they run out, there's a problem--both sides are short of balls, and it's anyone's guess who's at the disadvantage. So they replay the match.

Derbyshire, I've seen field faults cause the entire match to be played wrong. The match had to be replayed. This is AFTER the match ended. I haven't heard the foghorn in quite some time, maybe the last couple of years or more. I've heard of it, but not heard it.

But you're saying the replay is somehow giving an advantage. There is no advantage for any team in a replay

Congrats to 469 1114 and 2041 for being crowned our Divsion Champions!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Stephen Kowski (Post 954417)

These are the rules as set out by the GDC so I think your portrayal of 'lawyering' and 'shenanigans' are inaccurate. This happened in 2003 on a large scale so the GDC knew what was coming.

1114 is just playing the game in an intelligent way so you are right not to blame them. These actions are not shenanigans or lawyering, they are just the rules as they were explained to EVERYONE. Characterizing their game play as shenanigans is a shot at them, you know that. If you want to criticize the GDC go ahead, but don't bring 1114 into it.

Nope, not a shot at anyone that decides to play for strategy and it shouldn't be read that way. It was another vote for why I don't like the coopertition aspect. Sorry if it sounded un-GP or something, but I think if you read my other posts the last few weeks I'm as laid back as you can imagine so it wasn't meant at a shot at all and wanted that clarified. Still don't like the coopertition, as anything that rewards purposely tanking yourself to advance is not a good way to approach things.

Moving on to other things, our team had a blast at Curie this weekend and a very good weekend here in Atlanta. We learned quite a few things, finally got to see our robot go against some of the better teams in the nation and seeded 12th out of 84 with a win-loss record of 8-2. We were disappointed that we weren't picked, just like the other 60 teams that weren't, but Atlanta is always like that. Only so many can go on, and so many variables go into picking from scouting to politics to who you know and have played with before that we honestly weren't getting our hopes up to play in eliminations anyway.

Would have been nice, but at least we got one of the better seats in the house as the second backup robot for Curie's eliminations. :-) We wish everyone a safe and prosperous off-season, and congrats to the number one seed for winning Curie. Those were some fun games to watch this afternoon.

Congratulations none the less to the winners of curie division, your were simply playing the game, maybe not in the spirit of the competition, but the game none the less congratulations, you bested curie division it was a shame you guys didn't go on to win the championship. Either way your guys had great bots cleverly and efficiently, designed and built.

Congrats to all in the Curie division on their accomplishments! I was very surprised that our champion alliance didn't go on to win it all, but it's great that they got that far. Hey, it's an honor to lose to a great alliance!
Congrats to the finalist alliance, too, 1676, 888, 1421, and 1986!
888, you did great for the few matches you were available for. I wish you could have played longer.
1676, your midfield playing and high shooting scored several key goals and you shut down the opposing alliance from doing the same. Your hanging helped many times in matches.
1421, you were the best replacement we could have gotten. Your tactics kept us going all the way to finals, and I'm happy you were able to share in the Championship spirit.
And 1986, you're a great team to be on!

Hopefully we shall see all of you in Curie next year, whether it be at a regional or at the championships (I hope so... :D ), and good luck in advance!

On an unrelated note, I've been having account problems. I cannot post new threads. Anyone know how to contact an admin or moderator to correct this?
Also, if you didn't know, I had created a simulator for Breakaway, inspired by 5th Gear. The source file is now available at http://teamtitanium.org/resources.html (that's why I wondered how to create a new thread)