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Re: Curie 2010!
This going to be interesting, can't wait to see you guys there!
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Before adding our ball director, I know we could hang in the near. I haven't seen it tested though, wether or not we can hang from the near with it on, although I'm 98% sure we can. Edit: Just looked into it, the ball director does not interfere with us hanging from the near. In the Mid/Near, the ball director doesn't interfere with hanging. |
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Last I thought I knew, you can't even *touch* the horizontal bars under the ball return chutes, let alone hang from them!?!
So, while 2337 *can* hang from those, I suspect the *may* part is right out! |
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As a Rookie team Mentor it was interesting to see some of the top seed teams held to less than 10 points in some of the matches. At the Michigan Championships a couple of New teams held 469 to just a few scores by simple playing strategy of starving them for balls. The prior competitive experiences helps but some of the Rookie teams have scored a lot of points this year. In one of our matches all three teams hung at the end for 6 points. The teams that score in autonomous also have an advantage. The scouting databases really don't capture some of that very well. Statistically based on seeding this divison is only 1.5 percentage points lower than Archemedies and almost 8 percentage points higher than the other two divisions.
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Similar to what I did in previous years, I ran through 200 simulated qualification match schedules (all 144 matches, using the FIRST match generator). I used each team's average opr for their contribution to a match. I calculated the standings for each of the 200 simulated qualification schedules, and then looked at some statistics from the aggregate results.
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Team Avg Rnk Med Rnk Mod Rnk SD Rnk Min Rnk Max Rnk #1 seed Top 8 Avg SS Med SS Stdv SS Min SS Max SS |
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I would like to personally wish all the teams in Curie Good Luck! It will be very interesting and exciting to see the best robots go at it!
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Joe: That's really cool! Thank you for posting the data, now we know what to beat!
Dustin: I looked into it with our robot, and if we end up playing near, the only way for us to hang is to take off our ball director (which we wouldn't be using anyways), drive up to the bump on our side, and using only one hook, hit the side of the tower from near. Obviously, risky, but I guess we can do it. And if we're gonna play near, we'd know in advance. |
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Holy crap... 469, 1114, 2337, and 111 in the same division? This is going to be fun!
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For those of you that haven't heard, it sounds like our MC is Mark Leon this year! |
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It really is too bad Karthik doesnt MC CMP...
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Oh, yes, 1114's kids are not about to let their mentors have all the fun of building their robot. They just work harder at design and build. |
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I think the general thinking is the following:
A) Beating 469 on their own, doable. Difficult, but doable. B) Beating 1114 on their own, doable. Again, Difficult, but doable. C) Beating them together, thats where everyone's big question mark is. Since A) and B) are so difficult, preventing C) from becoming a problem in Elims is looking to be EXTREMELY difficult. |
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