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MamaSpoldi 12-04-2010 09:37
Re: Bracketology
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 952024)
Galileo
1. 217, 1466, 2056
2. 79, 188, 1717
3. 100, 365, 1058
4. 230, 1086, 2990
5. 56, 230, 2834
6. 271, 1625, 1714
7. 2016, 2122, 3138
8. 51, 433, 1305

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Barry, thanks for thinking so much of Team 230 that you included us in 2 alliances (#4 and #5)... but I am pretty sure that they will not allow us to do that. :rolleyes:

Joe Ross 12-04-2010 15:43
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Here's my answer to Barry's challenge.

Newton
1 67 971 2415
2 1592 1718 706
3 1208 910 2137
4 842 16 1922
5 525 1551 558
6 2619 1902 1073
7 294 2771 226
8 868 177 308


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Galileo
1 217 1625 51
2 2056 1717 100
3 188 3138 2122
4 1714 1305 694
5 1696 365 1466
6 1735 1086 271
7 63 1058 2016
8 78 230 56


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Curie
1 1114 469 386
2 1986 573 88
3 1732 1676 830
4 2337 111 624
5 27 2775 2410
6 2648 2345 1912
7 1421 231 368
8 2612 175 1511

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Archimedes
1 25 33 604
2 148 1918 234
3 254 330 3280
4 118 71 341
5 70 2062 1519
6 359 997 1124
7 2574 1 201
8 190 1772 1629


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If I were to rank these alliance from strongest to weakest, they would be in the following order:

1. Curie 1114 469 386
2. Newton 67 971 2415
3. Archimedes 25 33 604
4. Galileo 2056 1717 100

nikeairmancurry 12-04-2010 15:46
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 952776)
Here's my answer to Barry's challenge.

Newton
1 67 971 2415
2 1592 1718 706
3 1208 910 2137
4 842 16 1922
5 525 1551 558
6 2619 1902 1073
7 294 2771 226
8 868 177 308


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Galileo
1 217 1625 51
2 2056 1717 100
3 188 3138 2122
4 1714 1305 694
5 1696 365 1466
6 1735 1086 271
7 63 1058 2016
8 78 230 56


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Curie
1 1114 469 386
2 1986 573 88
3 1732 1676 830
4 2337 111 624
5 27 2775 2410
6 2648 2345 1912
7 1421 231 368
8 2612 175 1511

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Archimedes
1 25 33 604
2 148 1918 234
3 254 330 3280
4 118 71 341
5 70 2062 1519
6 359 997 1124
7 2574 1 201
8 190 1772 1629


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If I were to rank these alliance from strongest to weakest, they would be in the following order:

1. Curie 1114 469 386
2. Newton 67 971 2415
3. Archimedes 25 33 604
4. Galileo 2056 1717 100
Bold on the 1114/469 combination being beat in Finals of Curie!

Joe Ross 12-04-2010 15:54
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeairmancurry (Post 952777)
Bold on the 1114/469 combination being beat in Finals of Curie!
I'm not that bold ;-). The brackets go below the seeds.

waialua359 12-04-2010 15:58
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Joe,
One question.
Since no one will take us until late 2nd round, would you pick us? :rolleyes:
254, 330, 359.
Would we then take out Sean's alliance?:D

Wayne C. 12-04-2010 21:01
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 952780)
Joe,
Would we then take out Sean's alliance?:D
one can dream ....... ;)

WJF2011 12-04-2010 21:22
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 951444)
Also in response to questions about 125's robot...

I made sure to take some video evidence for you folks to prove that 469 isn't THE CHOSEN ONE, per say. Hehe. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzS9-M8Dcxg
125 isnt as good as 469 because 469's is more consistent and they are also good outside of directing balls, they can kick.

WJF2011 12-04-2010 21:26
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Ross (Post 952776)
Here's my answer to Barry's challenge.

Newton
1 67 971 2415
2 1592 1718 706
3 1208 910 2137
4 842 16 1922
5 525 1551 558
6 2619 1902 1073
7 294 2771 226
8 868 177 308


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Galileo
1 217 1625 51
2 2056 1717 100
3 188 3138 2122
4 1714 1305 694
5 1696 365 1466
6 1735 1086 271
7 63 1058 2016
8 78 230 56


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Curie
1 1114 469 386
2 1986 573 88
3 1732 1676 830
4 2337 111 624
5 27 2775 2410
6 2648 2345 1912
7 1421 231 368
8 2612 175 1511

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Archimedes
1 25 33 604
2 148 1918 234
3 254 330 3280
4 118 71 341
5 70 2062 1519
6 359 997 1124
7 2574 1 201
8 190 1772 1629


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If I were to rank these alliance from strongest to weakest, they would be in the following order:

1. Curie 1114 469 386
2. Newton 67 971 2415
3. Archimedes 25 33 604
4. Galileo 2056 1717 100
I have only scouted Newton, but I am inclined to agree with all of your selections there.

waialua359 12-04-2010 21:31
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne C. (Post 952995)
one can dream ....... ;)
Wayne,
If you're the #1 seed and its down to the last pick, we better be on your team (if we didnt get picked yet.);)
Its about time!

Norman J 12-04-2010 21:35
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
I can definitely see 1114 seeding #1 on Curie and picking 469. While I am very pleased with your Archimedes prediction:D , I am not personally so confident of our ability to pull that one off. Archimedes is such a top heavy division that 25 picking us is as far from certain as you can get.

I do know that whichever 2 powerhouses team up on Archimedes, they will pick a strong defense bot, in anticipation of that Curie team. The defense bot will have to hold off 1114 to starve 469's loop. Kind of a tall order. So any good defense robot's out there on Archimedes, show the scouts of the powerhouses what you can do!

Wayne C. 12-04-2010 21:48
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 953019)
Wayne,
If you're the #1 seed and its down to the last pick, we better be on your team (if we didnt get picked yet.);)
Its about time!
the pressure, the pressure...

actually we were talking today and I think it can be said that we have never seen as strong a division as this year's Archimedes. There are at least 20 great teams that will make tough alliances for the elimination rounds.

And while we thank those who have such confidence in us, it is no means certain that 25 will be a top seed. But we will CERTAINLY TRY ;)


We too look ahead to a possible 469-1114 alliance showdown. And we think we have a solution. But that remains to be seen.


WC :cool:

waialua359 12-04-2010 21:57
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne C. (Post 953027)
the pressure, the pressure...

actually we were talking today and I think it can be said that we have never seen as strong a division as this year's Archimedes. There are at least 20 great teams that will make tough alliances for the elimination rounds.

And while we thank those who have such confidence in us, it is no means certain that 25 will be a top seed. But we will CERTAINLY TRY ;)


We too look ahead to a possible 469-1114 alliance showdown. And we think we have a solution. But that remains to be seen.


WC :cool:
OK......got it.
You would take us.;)

waialua359 12-04-2010 22:02
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norman J (Post 953020)
I can definitely see 1114 seeding #1 on Curie and picking 469. While I am very pleased with your Archimedes prediction:D , I am not personally so confident of our ability to pull that one off. Archimedes is such a top heavy division that 25 picking us is as far from certain as you can get.

I do know that whichever 2 powerhouses team up on Archimedes, they will pick a strong defense bot, in anticipation of that Curie team. The defense bot will have to hold off 1114 to starve 469's loop. Kind of a tall order. So any good defense robot's out there on Archimedes, show the scouts of the powerhouses what you can do!
I respectfully differ in the opinion of the 3rd bot. I think the 3rd bot will exclusively be the striker......one that can score every ball that comes to the home zone.

After autonomous is over, the team that plays back will effectively have already kicked all 3 balls over and proceed to move balls out of the loop that the opposing alliance kicked into their far zone.
Then, the robot joins the current midfielder and the two powerhouse midfielders ensure (as much as possible) in getting balls that they score back to the strong striker in the front. It would be two on one vs. 1114 who will play the midfield while 469 loops balls (assuming that 469-1114 alliance occurs).

With this strategy, no one is playing defense.
The only way to beat a 469 alliance is to outscore them. There is no other way.

BJC 12-04-2010 22:31
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norman J (Post 953020)
I can definitely see 1114 seeding #1 on Curie and picking 469. While I am very pleased with your Archimedes prediction:D , I am not personally so confident of our ability to pull that one off. Archimedes is such a top heavy division that 25 picking us is as far from certain as you can get.

I do know that whichever 2 powerhouses team up on Archimedes, they will pick a strong defense bot, in anticipation of that Curie team. The defense bot will have to hold off 1114 to starve 469's loop. Kind of a tall order. So any good defense robot's out there on Archimedes, show the scouts of the powerhouses what you can do!
First, I would LOVE to be on an alliance with 25 although I agree its defiantly depends on how everyone plays, and second this the job of guarding 469 has historically gone to us at our past compititions. I think that in order to play this role a robot needs to be on top of its game and can't have even the slightest trouble aquiring and kicking balls from the far zone. Only then can they succeed in stopping them (kind of).

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Originally Posted by waialua359 (Post 953032)
The only way to beat a 469 alliance is to outscore them. There is no other way.
If you leave 469 by themselves, you will not outscore them. This is a fact. We have been at a district and states with them and have yet to have seen this work even once in the eliminations.

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We too look ahead to a possible 469-1114 alliance showdown. And we think we have a solution. But that remains to be seen. WC :cool:
Many other teams have thought they have had a solution to 469 and yet they have still won all their competitions. Hopefully you guys have better luck, but then again thats what "remains to be seen" means :) . I would Love to see what you have planned but I suppose I'll have to wait until Atlanta:rolleyes: .

nahstobor 12-04-2010 22:49
Re: Einstein Field: Division Winner Predictions
 
254 wins it all. It has to happen sometime.


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