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Krill 10-04-2010 19:49

Re: [Vid]:125 NUtrons Hang and Redirect
 
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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 951679)
I'd rather have a target on my back than be invisible to the competition, and after Boston happened, it's clear that you have to make that choice.

By no means would I have considered 125 "invisible" at Boston. The NU-TRONS have an amazing reputation as a team that consistently dominates these competitions, and I assure them that our team kept very close watch on all of their matches (and we were very eager to align with them in match 73).

Our decision to not select 125 was a result of much complication, but it was a conscious decision. 125 was NOT overlooked, and I'm sure 125 will be a valuable asset to Newton.

I just wish you guys made extra shirts! I've wanted one since freshman year :(

kborer22 10-04-2010 21:14

Re: [Vid]:125 NUtrons Hang and Redirect
 
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Originally Posted by johnr (Post 951675)
I just realiized something. This thread may not have been that good of an idea. 125 has just recieved a large target. Their matches are going to be the proving ground for many teams looking to impress other teams," We stopped 125. We can help you on Einstein with 469." Good luck guys, you have along couple of days ahead of you. One question not answered yet, can you get down off of tower if loop doesn't start?

No, once we're up, we're up. At least at that point we are good for the hanging bonus

Akash Rastogi 10-04-2010 21:35

Re: [Vid]:125 NUtrons Hang and Redirect
 
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Originally Posted by kborer22 (Post 951911)
No, once we're up, we're up. At least at that point we are good for the hanging bonus

Have you guys practiced playing other facets of the game such as being a front zone striker? It might be valuable to be a little flexible during qualification matches.

BrendanB 10-04-2010 23:23

Re: [Vid]:125 NUtrons Hang and Redirect
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 951916)
Have you guys practiced playing other facets of the game such as being a front zone striker? It might be valuable to be a little flexible during qualification matches.

Ding ding ding! Multiple zones is a very good way to "show off" skills to the crowd/scouts and increases your chance of being picked. 469 can only stay in the middle zone, but they are still very good in that zone as well.

I don't think this thread "puts a target on their backs" at all. Most teams during pre-scouting have seen them as a team that have not been in eliminations presenting them as a low ranking robot. 125 is a very valuable team to an alliance and I just don't know why they weren't picked at Boston with several alliances picking robots to just get the hanging bonus as a third pick.

Brandon Holley 10-04-2010 23:34

Re: [Vid]:125 NUtrons Hang and Redirect
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 951916)
Have you guys practiced playing other facets of the game such as being a front zone striker? It might be valuable to be a little flexible during qualification matches.


While we could do that, I don't think it will A. help our alliance all that much in the actual qualification match or B. help display our ability to be a dominant "loop" bot. In Atlanta, with the competition being much more adept, I feel we will be able to "loop" in every match.

Quite honestly I would rather show the ability to hang and get into looping position every single time rather than show our most likely lackluster ability to be an effective striker (as it will look compared to the great bots in Atlanta).

If we are being picked, we are going to be picked for our ability to recycle. This is the reason I feel working in a position which our robot was not designed for is not advantageous.

Adam Freeman 11-04-2010 08:02

Re: [Vid]:125 NUtrons Hang and Redirect
 
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Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 951977)
Quite honestly I would rather show the ability to hang and get into looping position every single time rather than show our most likely lackluster ability to be an effective striker (as it will look compared to the great bots in Atlanta).

If we are being picked, we are going to be picked for our ability to recycle. This is the reason I feel working in a position which our robot was not designed for is not advantageous.

My suggestion is to prove that you can be a valuable team member to whichever alliance you are on in that particular match. Play to your strengths, but do what gives your alliance the best chance to win.

If you are with other teams that can score and start the loop for you, then go ahead, hang and loop.

If not, then do not spend the entire match trying to hang or hanging in the air while the rest of your alliance struggles to score 2 v. 3.

Use objective scouting data to determine the strength of your partners and your opponents for each match. This should dictate the strategy used.

Any well driven robot can push balls into the goal, if needed. If you don't have partners that can do that. Then show all the scouting teams that your robot is driven well enough to accomplish this task too.

If you are a dominant looper, teams will figure out a way to stop you from hanging. You will have to play from the ground in the eliminations at some point.

The HOT team will be watching every match. If we are in a position to select teams, we will select teams we feel are most valuable to our alliance and give us the best chance at winning the division.

Brandon Holley 11-04-2010 13:58

Re: [Vid]:125 NUtrons Hang and Redirect
 
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Originally Posted by Adam Freeman (Post 952036)
The HOT team will be watching every match. If we are in a position to select teams, we will select teams we feel are most valuable to our alliance and give us the best chance at winning the division.

Adam,
By no means should you get the impression that we are not team players. Our goal every single match is to go out and help our alliance win. The comments I made were referring to the fact that I feel in Atlanta, we will be in a position to play to our strengths far more often than not. However, there are always extenuating circumstances, and if those should arise, we are ready to take whatever role is necessary.

-Brando


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