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Re: [FF]: 2010 IRI
Instead, on the pointer from Chris, I will grab 1730 for 503
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Best teams not selected (and teams I would want if I can join back in): 503, 1018 and 537....2775 would have been easily the best team not picked.
The three favorites to win: Vikesrock (1114 and 71 is probably enough but 234 was a steal), JackN (1625 would have been #2 on my list, and 70 should be picked atleast as a backup) and IKE (16 is a beast, and 111 has had a ton of time to perfect their grabber and kicker). There are a couple of teams that have better first two picks, but I think the key is finding a 3rd robot that has a good chance to get picked and hopefully win as a 3rd/backup. |
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Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234
Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 Chris is me............33........1714..........51 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 James1902................48..........68..........8 29 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ...2775 sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 TEAMS: 393 461 494 503 537 1018 1024 1038 1094 1108 1327 1477 1529 1640 1646 1675 1720 1741 1747 2081 2171 2194 2826 3176 |
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]Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234
Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 Chris is me............33........1714..........51 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 James1902................48..........68..........8 29 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ...2775 sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37 TEAMS: 393 461 503 1024 1038 1094 1108 1327 1477 1529 1640 1646 1675 1720 1741 1747 2081 2171 2194 2826 3176 |
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I would strongly suggest that one of you pick up 3176.
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Disclaimer: This is only for fun
I thought it might be fun to compare how I would have drafted in each one of the positions versus the actual draft. OK, here is a comparison according to my pick list: Draw Theo * IER * Ratio Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234 168 * 193 * 1.15 Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 .. 167 * 194 * 1.16 Chris is me............33........1714..........51 .. 166 * 195 * 1.17 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 165 * 176 * 1.07 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 .. 164 * 205 * 1.25 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 163 * 131 * 0.80 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 162 * 117 * 0.72 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 . 161 * 173 * 1.07 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70 160 * 191 * 1.19 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 .. 159 * 82 * 0.52 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 . 158 * 179 * 1.13 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 157 * 142 * 0.90 James1902................48..........68..........8 29 156 * 54 * 0.35 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 .. 155 * 78 * 0.50 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ...2775 154 * 107 * 0.69 Is 2775 going? sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830 153 * 185 * 1.21 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 .. 152 * 158 * 1.04 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 151 * 201 * 1.33 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 .. 150 * 73 * 0.49 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37 .. 69 * 93 * 1.35 So, here is how my comparison worked. I took the picking order and assigned a theoretical scoring. #1 pick worth 81, #2 worth 80......down the line. Adding those up is the theoretical scoring each drafter could get (theo). I then assigned my picklist to be "the key" as I had ranked teams 1-81. I gave my #1 81 points, and so on and so forth. I then summed the scores relative to the order I would have picked things. Naturally since I am grading against my own curve, I should have a score of 1.0 or higher (assuming somone chooses off picks earlier in the draft). Please take this little comparison with a giant grain of salt.;) So by the looks of it, Akash has the best picks of all getting what I felt were first round picks for all three of his. I have a really good feeling about my picks. Biggest bargains I felt were 330 and 1058. Note: If 2775 is going, then Dodar should have about an extra 60 or so points, but I thought they had dropped from the IRI roster. Note2: My picks were largely (though not exclusively) based off of OPR. Many teams recieved what I felt was a proper boost due to unusual playing styles (2337 was one of them). I have a feeling bots like 2337 will fair very well at an event with the depth like the IRI. That being said, it is an off-season, so relying heavily on "in-season" data is not always a strong bet. |
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Since 2775 isnt going =[ i guess i'll take 1038
So IKE, do you think you could do that list over again with my change with 2775 and 1038 |
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dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ...1038… 154 * 145 * 0.94 I would welcome others to do similar analysis. Its fun to see how your picks would have stacked up. I will looking into old FF threads to see who were the solid predicters. |
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]Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234
Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 Chris is me............33........1714..........51 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 James1902................48..........68..........8 29 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ..1038 sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37 TEAMS: 393 461 503 1024 1094 1108 1327 1477 1529 1640 1646 1675 1720 1741 1747 2081 2171 2194 2826 3176[ |
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I used a somewhat different approach. I assigned the number system, but backwards, giving #1 pick 1 point. Each person wanted to accumulate the least # of points. Their theoretical yield was divided by their actual yield. That means the higher the ratio, the better.
Here's the ratios: Vikesrock: 1.56 Basel A: 2.08 Chrisisme: 1.21 Alex Cormier: 1.27 Akash Rastogi: 1.21 Koko Ed: 0.70 bobwrit: 0.88 rtfgnow: .87 JackN: 2.26 jblay: 0.51 Jamie Kalb: 1.51 hill: 0.92 James1902: 0.60 TheNotoriousLB: .57 dodar: 0.98 sgreco: 1.52 EricH: 1.07 IKE: 1.67 ericgehrken: 0.74 XaulZan11: 1.09 JackN actually scored better than I did with the steal of the night, 330. In many cases people had third picks that I didn't agree with, which bombed some scores. By-and-large this system has larger margins of difference between similar people than the other system. |
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Ranking based on average regular-season FF scores (Note that this does include awards, which are not given out nearly as much at IRI):
Player.................Picks...................... ...........Sum of averages......Outcome Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234. ........230.5................1 Basel A.................67..........573..........1501... ....189.5...............8 Chris is me............33........1714..........51.......... .207................4 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118... ....221.4............3 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058.... .192..............7 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980.. ......147.8..........14 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71.........156.7............12 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868.......203.............6 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70........188.1............9 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92..........65.2...............19 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771.. ...124.5..........15 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730.......205.8..........5 James1902................48..........68..........8 29......53.4..............20 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 ......92.5............16 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ..1038....165.8..........10 sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830......158.4..........11 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902.....223..............2 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062......153.7..............13 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93......77.7................18 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37.....90.0..............17 Yes, this is based on actual numbers from the 2010 regular season, including the Championship. As noted, the average scores do include awards; rankings are based on the sum of the average scores. |
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What I did was take each team and added their wins and total matches and then calculated their winning percentages
Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234 = 73% Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 = 77% Chris is me............33........1714..........51 = 65% Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 = 67% Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 = 70% Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 = 63% bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 = 67% rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 = 73% JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70 = 71% jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 = 48% Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 = 56% hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 = 68% James1902................48..........68..........8 29 = 42% TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 = 40% dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ..1038 = 68% sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830 = 67% EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 = 73% IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 = 67% ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 = 49% XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37 = 47% |
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Funny story about my alliance. I knew I was going to be gone last night during picking and I didn't really want to actually go through the process of making a list. So I told my mom and dad to come up with a list of teams and that they could make my picks for me. They came up with a list and I give minimal input on it (we disagreed a little between picks 30-40 on the list). My mom was informing me of her alliance and I thought she was joking. So I can't take any credit on stealing 330, since I didn't actually make my picks.
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hahaha Picone! nice pickss
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]Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234
Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 Chris is me............33........1714..........51 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 JackN's MOM..........1625..........330........ ..70 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 James1902................48..........68..........8 29 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ..1038 sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37 TEAMS: 393 461 503 1024 1094 1108 1327 1477 1529 1640 1646 1675 1720 1741 1747 2081 2171 2194 2826 3176[ There I fixed it! :D |
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My Moms response
First off, Jack gets the credit for the pick list. I wrote it, based on what he has taught me, what I have learned from CD/TBA and from watching the teams this year. I was the clock watcher and the typist. As far as the actual picks, they were pretty much no-brainers: 1625 Einstein, regional winner, and 2 time winner at IRI pretty simple choice. 330 There was no steal - they were there for the picking. They were the next logical pick. 70 High hopes for our own team. Now secondly, a new low to lose to a Mom. Are you kidding me? I cannot let this go by without comment. I would suggest a little culture change is needed here. Thank you Koko Ed. My husband, Jack and I do enjoy FIRST as a family. Thank you IKE, the culture that FIRST promotes is one that encourages and accepts every individuals talents. |
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Thanks for the pick though, hope we come through for ya! |
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I'm a little late to the game, but I'd still like to join, and Ed says that it's fine. 503, 1024, and (by IndySam's suggestion) 3176 for me.
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Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234
Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 Chris is me............33........1714..........51 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 James1902................48..........68..........8 29 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ..1038 sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37 Karibou...................503...........1024...... ..3176 TEAMS: 393 461 1094 1108 1327 1477 1529 1640 1646 1675 1720 1741 1747 2081 2171 2194 2826 |
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Redone ranking to account for Kara joining in:
Player.................Picks...................... ...........Sum of averages......Outcome Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234. ........230.5................1 Basel A.................67..........573..........1501... ....189.5...............8 Chris is me............33........1714..........51.......... .207................4 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118... ....221.4............3 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058.... .192..............7 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980.. ......147.8..........14 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71.........156.7............12 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868.......203.............6 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70........188.1............9 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92..........65.2...............20 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771.. ...124.5..........15 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730.......205.8..........5 James1902................48..........68..........8 29......53.4..............21 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 ......92.5............16 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ..1038....165.8..........10 sgreco....................1086..........233....... ..830......158.4..........11 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902.....223..............2 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062......153.7..............13 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93......77.7................19 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37.....90.0..............17 Karibou...................503...........1024...... ..3176....86.3............18 |
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Heads up: 233 (sgreco's #2 pick) is no longer attending, per Andy Baker in the team list thread.
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I'll take 2194 instead of 233.
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Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234
Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 Chris is me............33........1714..........51 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 James1902................48..........68..........8 29 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ..1038 sgreco....................1086..........2194...... ..830 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37 Karibou...................503...........1024...... ..3176 TEAMS: 393 461 1094 1108 1327 1477 1529 1640 1646 1675 1720 1741 1747 2081 2171 2826 |
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I've changed my mind....I'll take 2826 instead of 2194.
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]Vikesrock.............1114.........71.........234
Basel A.................67..........573..........1501 Chris is me............33........1714..........51 Alex Cormier..........469..........1538..........118 Akash Rastogi........294..........1519..........1058 Koko Ed................1718.........2949..........980 bobwrit.................217..........399.........1 71 rtfgnow.................2056..........343......... .868 JackN....................1625..........330........ ..70 jblay....................107.........135.........2 92 Jamie Kalb.............910..........2337..........2771 hill........................359.........3138...... ....1730 James1902................48..........68..........8 29 TheNotoriousLB........832..........888.........141 dodar.....................1592..........1732...... ..1038 sgreco....................1086..........2826...... ..830 EricH......................2481..........148...... ...1902 IKE........................16..........111........ .2062 ericgehrken..............116..........45.......... 93 XaulZan11...............494..........1018........5 37 Karibou...................503...........1024...... ..3176 TEAMS: 393 461 1094 1108 1327 1477 1529 1640 1646 1675 1720 1741 1747 2081 2171 2194 |
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33's schedule makes me extremely happy with my pick.
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Team 111 and 16's schedule are making me really happy! Though I think Basel will be happiest immediately after qualifications... |
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Looking at the schedule, I know I'll get two points out of match 22: 1902 and 148 face each other.
I think I've got a decent chance of having at least one and probably two teams in eliminations, so we'll see how it goes. |
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All roster are now locked.
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Woot, my three picks are all currently in the top 15 :D Seems like Picone is pretty decent at this.
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And my picks are #1, #9, and #11. I think I've got a good shot of repeating my FF IRI win.
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At the end of day one, I had 830 in 6th and 1086 in 7th ... If only Pink didn't drop out I'd likely have all 3 teams in the top 10.
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IRI scores:
JackN....................1625(10)..........330(71) ..........70(20)=101 Alex Cormier..........469(65)..........1538(14)........ ..118(0)=79 hill........................359(43).........3138(3 9)..........1730(-8)=74 sgreco....................1086(49)..........2826(7 )........830(14)=70 Vikesrock.............1114(40).........71(-2).........234(23)= 61 Chris is me............33(36)........1714(7)..........51(17 )=60 Akash Rastogi........294(13)..........1519(14).......... 1058(11)=38 bobwrit.................217(3)..........399(35)... ......171(-5)=33 Basel A.................67(24)..........573(9).......... 1501(-2)=31 Jamie Kalb.............910(11)..........2337(12)........ ..2771(4)=27 rtfgnow.................2056(10)..........343(6).. ........868(3)=19 Koko Ed................1718(13).........2949(8)........ ..980(-4)=17 ericgehrken..............116(-5)..........45(-4)..........93(-8)=-17 EricH......................2481(-4)..........148(21).........1902(-8)=9 TheNotoriousLB........832(NA)..........888(-4).........141(-4)=-8 dodar.....................1592(-4)..........1732(3)........1038(3)=2 jblay....................107(4).........135(-5).........292(0)=-1 IKE........................16(6)..........111(0).. .......2062(-12)=-6 XaulZan11...............494(9)..........1018(-8)........537(-16)=-15 Karibou...................503(-4)...........1024(-8)........3176(-4)=-16 James1902................48(-12)..........68(-8)..........829(-9)=-29 Congrats Jack! |
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Thanks Ed for another well run league!!
Congrats Jack/Jack's mom! |
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Thank You Ed!
And congratulations to Jack's Mother :p |
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Thanks for running this, Ed! And Jack's mom, you are amazing. Can't believe I didn't see the 330 steal coming!
Congrats! |
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So 330 really ended up being the deal of the day. Who would have thought 111 and 16 would be back-up bots? Seriously? |
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