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Which is partly why this discussion is so interesting. Everyone has different criteria and reasoning. This leads to facts about teams that others did not know becoming more common knowledge.

(Plus, not to be a jerk but if you find a discussion pointless don't participate... (not that I am discouraging your posts or opinions, I actually agree with them for the most part))

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What I find funny is that we'll go on for a while about a team in a specific state, and then a member from that team will post about how their team isn't actually the best.

Of course we'll never actually agree. But that's the point of discussions. That you enjoy talking about things and maybe butting heads with someone. That's what all of the "What's next year's game going to be" and "Who will win worlds" threads are. Just speculations based on biases and likes.

- Sunny

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It is somewhat funny that when a person says "not to be a jerk", they usually follow with a somewhat rude comment. But I do understand what you mean. I didn't mean to suggest that the whole discussion was pointless (and I apologize if it came off that way). I was merely suggesting that the quality of the discussion could be better. For instance, people could provide concrete examples or legitimate statistics to show their opinions as opposed to simple speculation. :o

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That drive train has come a LONG way since we "got our hands" on it. It's shed pounds, lost size, and become much more simple... It's the same concept with some of the same geometry but at this point it's been almost fully redesigned since 753 had it. Not to mention that 6 teams used that drive train this year, if it was just the drive train that won regionals then I should have expected to see more of them win.

I do personally believe that there is much more to being the "best team" than winning regionals, while I'm bias I will be the first to admit that 1540 has come an amazing distance in 6 years. They have competed in the top tier every year since their inception, held off season learning events for local teams, mentored lego teams.... and the list goes on. They would be my pick for best team in Oregon.

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An excellent point. I hadn't even thought of 122 mainly because I'm a rookie, i haven't been around that much and they didn't really strike me as that good of a team the little I saw them this year.

Another good team in Virginia could be 422. They made it to the finals in the New Jersey Regional and the semis in the Virginia regional, though I don't know how well they've done in years past.

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ouch... i usually dont make mistakes like that... o well. I would pick 987 from NV as well... not sure why i didn't the first time :o

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Well, it wouldn't make much sense to say "not to be a jerk", or, "no offense". then say something nice... :rolleyes:

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As part of 1102 i'm impressed with 343 but our team is drastically changing ;) we still got everyone in SC on the FTC front :D

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Lol well that is true. However, it is not necessary to precede such negative comments with promises of positive intentions. I'm a big girl; I can handle just the comment. ;)

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They won the Chairman's Award at VCU, and they didn't strike you as "that good?" :confused:

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This sort fo brings up a good point, some people are looking for all around qualifications for greatness and others are looking at performance on the field. To a rookie member who was presumably just looking at robot performance, although 122 was good, I can agree that this year some teams were on higer competitive level. The conversations are interesting because everyone has a slightly different percenatge of each factor that weighs into a teams accomplishments.

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*facepalm* Forgot able that... and I was thinking a bit more in the terms of robot performance. Taking in to account the Chairman's award...I don't know who I put in the top spot...1086 and 122 would probably be top two. 1522 in third and 422 in fourth. Beyond that I don't know, maybe 1676, they're from New Jersey but they pretty handily cleaned up the Virginia Regional.

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I started writing a post about several Virginia teams and their histories. But I don't want to divert this thread further. You should do a little research into what Virginia teams have done at other regionals/championship and the history of teams like 612, 384, and 1731.

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1772 is an awesome team from Brazil. They were very tough competition at Palmetto this year!

It is humbling (and really cool) to have some many say that 343 is one of the best in SC. BUT based on other factors...

342 and 1398 are very strong Chairman's teams every year. I also have a feeling that 2815 may be jumping into that next year.

343 won our first little safety pin EVER this year at Florida (kind of pathetic)...1319 wins a Safety Award ::safety:: EVERY year and sometimes at multiple regionals.

As stated earlier 1102 does dominate SC with their FTC teams. They also showed this year that they can regroup and be successful after a bad showing. They went from Florida...where they had issues... and then to Palmetto and where they were Finalists!

Now with my completely prejudice opinion, of course I think 343 is the best, but I also just love 1398!! They work extremely hard and have always been successful...just not always with robots. But now thanks to 2815 :) their robots will probably become very competitive!

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I find this thread extremely interesting. I started looking at the teams in MD and realized that there are 3 teams with 1 chairman's award and 1 regional win. All three teams also have an engineering inspiration award. There are also a lot of teams that perform superbly at competitions. i think that in maryland we will have to wait until next year to pick the best team!!!!

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Don't think any has mentioned this so far but for MN it has to bee 1816 in my book.

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If I may be so humble...

1306 for WI (for this year at least, hardly overall)

We won the Regional Chairmans Award AND managed to make it to the quarterfinals (if you saw our robot, you would know that was somewhat of a feat, it's basically a moving box, no kicker, no lifting, no "dribblers")
We made quarterfinals at the Championship too, placing 5th in Curie, and somewhere around 18th in the whole championship.

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I would have to say 67 for MI. We do most of our machining out at Milford Proving Grounds and occasionally run into them. They're always nice to talk with and offer assistance at every turn. Not to mention the 3 World Champiomships thing.

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I'd say this year, (I am just as humble) 1714 or 1732 would have to count. EI + Regional Win and 2 SFs, or 2 Wins and QFs, with robots that have active manipulators.

If history repeats itself with regards to WI Chairman's winners, you're on the right track though, and will improve greatly once again.

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Though I'm less familiar with MN teams than I am with teams from my own region, I'd like to second this. We worked with them in Atlanta in 2007, which brought them to my attention. I've been impressed with them ever since.

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As far as best team by competition means go I'd say 148 by raw wins at competitions but by overall force and strength 1 v 1, most years 118 would take it. In terms of innovation and the "wow factor" 118 takes it but in terms of simplicity and still managing to open a can of whoop-ness I'd say it belongs to 148.

Overall its a toss up. Any given year you can expect both to build great beasts, but in terms of consistency I'd say Robowranglers get it. However the Robonauts need a World Championship or at least consistently reaching Einstein to hit the top tier teams like 71, 233, and 1114.

Pavan Davé

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I'm surprised there have been no nominations for 1519 from New Hampshire! Don't get me wrong, 40 has been really good almost every year, but 1519 is consistently amazing, won Chairman's at GSR last year (and I believe won with their robot as well), had a Dean's List Finalist this year, and that's just all I could think of at the top of my head from my few years going to the same regional as them. Our team picked them this year at GSR and went on to win the regional, not only because of the shear power of the three robots on our alliance but because of the relationships that all three drive teams made right away! We're all still friends now and are even planning a summer party together with all teams who want to come! (By the way since I'm talking so much about our alliance, than you 1058 as well!). With 1519 you can tell that the robot is at least primarily student-built and that the most important thing the kids get out of it all is to have FUN! ...They just happen to win everything along the way :).

Thanks! We love you 1519!

-Genevieve

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Maryland- 2377
Idaho- 2122
Georgia- 1771
Connecticut- 175
New York- 694

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I think I have to disagree on Maryland.
While their on-the-field records are very similar, 1629 has an RCA and 2 EIs in the past three years. While I'm sure that 2377 will reach that plateau in the near future, I don't think they're quite there yet...

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Not sure I'd agree with a couple of those. Certainly no offense intended to 694 in particular, but it's hard for me to say that they're better than 1126 or 340.

I'd probably agree. 2377 is an incredible team with an incredible team structure and mentor base. They're only going to get stronger. But 1629 has had a few more years to mature and build their program and has also set a very high standard of robots (though they don't have a ton of hardware from it).

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I just made a list for NY:

20: (as of 2004) 3 champions, 2 finalists, 11 awards

191: (as of 2001, except for CA) 2 CMP CA, 2 champions, 3 finalists, 12 awards

340: 4 CA, 2 champions, 2 division champions, 2 finalists, 12 awards

375: 2 CA, 2 champions, 5 finalists, 19 awards

395: 1 CA, 6 champions, 1 finalists, 8 awards

694: 2 CA, 2 champions, 3 finalists, 12 awards

1126: 4 champions, 2 Division champions, 2 finalists, 9 awards

1511: 3 CA, RAS, 1 champions, 2 finalists, 17 awards


Totals;

20- 16+
191- 19+
340- 22
375- 28
395- 16
694- 19
1126- 17
1511- 24

The battle comes down to 340 vs 375 vs 1511.

Winner? Don't know.

Is there a team not up there that should be? Post it with numbers to prove it.

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How can you not include team 20 in your potential choices? You are missing 12 seasons of their history (1992-2003).

That being said 1511 would have to get my vote, they have been one of the most successful teams in FIRST since they started in 2005 and are still yet to go to a regional and not take home an award.

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That's all there was on the FIRST site, I did visit the 20 site. But there is no history of awards. (Usually a good thing to add to a site)

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I think you may have misinterpreted the part that surprised me. I couldn't find the rest of the award info either. I am not blaming you for the lack of info, just for not including them with the other three teams as your top votes. They have more than half the number of awards the other teams on the list do despite nearly 2/3 of their history is missing.

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Here are all the team awards 1992-2010 (year, team, event, award)
http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/AllAwards.xls

Look at the "Total Team Trophy's" tab for a sort by team/#awards

Some are missing from '93 and '94, but all the others are there.

I can add a column for country/state if you want to sort that way.
P.S. I'll post this change when I get home. It's too big to attach in a thread.

Team 20 has that oddity in their history where they were absorbed into 250 for a bit.
Other than that, they've earned 19 awards total.

P.P.S.
I've updated the linked file above to include team locations, so you can sort by your favorite location.
I should note that this is all teams ever, so some are now defunct. I should probably add a column that notes which are active (added an "Active" column).
Here are just the active NY teams ranked by total double-digit awards. You can get more sophisticated and also sort by the awards you yourself value most.
NY ----- 375 ----- 31
NY ----- 340 ----- 27
NY ----- 358 ----- 25
NY ----- 191 ----- 25
NY ---- 1511 ----- 24
NY ----- 694 ----- 21
NY ------ 20 ----- 19
NY ----- 522 ----- 19
NY ----- 250 ----- 18
NY ----- 395 ----- 18
NY ---- 1126 ----- 17
NY ----- 271 ----- 15
NY ----- 353 ----- 15
NY ----- 354 ----- 15
NY ----- 378 ----- 15
NY ----- 870 ----- 15
NY ----- 229 ----- 13
NY ----- 329 ----- 13
NY ----- 639 ----- 13
NY ----- 578 ----- 12
NY ----- 287 ----- 11
NY ---- 1155 ----- 10

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The FIRST site doesn't list our previous decade either.
We have about 26 total.

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I know of 24 for you, but do you know what other awards 191 received in 1993 and 1994?
Chairman's is obvious of course... :)
I'd like to add more details from those two sketchy years.

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We won Team Spirit in '93.

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20 and 250 have fairly complicated, intertwined histories that make figuring out which team to credit which award to fairly difficult.

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Since California is so large a state (think half the eastern seaboard), I'd say it should be broken into Northern and Southern California.

Northern CA: 254
Southern CA: 330

indieFan

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Since Michigan is so good, I'd say we break it into counties.

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Might need to go by school districts Jack...

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We might as well just combine the Nebraska/South Dakota region into one as well.