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Pavan Dave 14-06-2010 12:13

Re: Best Team by State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rob_c (Post 964562)
TX: 118 or 148 (Texas is big enough that it could be 2 states anyway)

118, and 148 have always stood out to me as innovating teams which seem to consistently create incredible robots and ideas (WildSwerve, Red Line, Tumble Weed, Tornado...)


As far as best team by competition means go I'd say 148 by raw wins at competitions but by overall force and strength 1 v 1, most years 118 would take it. In terms of innovation and the "wow factor" 118 takes it but in terms of simplicity and still managing to open a can of whoop-ness I'd say it belongs to 148.

Overall its a toss up. Any given year you can expect both to build great beasts, but in terms of consistency I'd say Robowranglers get it. However the Robonauts need a World Championship or at least consistently reaching Einstein to hit the top tier teams like 71, 233, and 1114.

Pavan Davé

Cheerleader1073 14-06-2010 18:37

Re: Best Team by State
 
I'm surprised there have been no nominations for 1519 from New Hampshire! Don't get me wrong, 40 has been really good almost every year, but 1519 is consistently amazing, won Chairman's at GSR last year (and I believe won with their robot as well), had a Dean's List Finalist this year, and that's just all I could think of at the top of my head from my few years going to the same regional as them. Our team picked them this year at GSR and went on to win the regional, not only because of the shear power of the three robots on our alliance but because of the relationships that all three drive teams made right away! We're all still friends now and are even planning a summer party together with all teams who want to come! (By the way since I'm talking so much about our alliance, than you 1058 as well!). With 1519 you can tell that the robot is at least primarily student-built and that the most important thing the kids get out of it all is to have FUN! ...They just happen to win everything along the way :).

Thanks! We love you 1519!

-Genevieve

Akash Rastogi 14-06-2010 19:43

Re: Best Team by State
 
Maryland- 2377
Idaho- 2122
Georgia- 1771
Connecticut- 175
New York- 694

rutzman 14-06-2010 20:28

Re: Best Team by State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 966620)
Maryland- 2377
Idaho- 2122
Georgia- 1771
Connecticut- 175
New York- 694

I think I have to disagree on Maryland.
While their on-the-field records are very similar, 1629 has an RCA and 2 EIs in the past three years. While I'm sure that 2377 will reach that plateau in the near future, I don't think they're quite there yet...

Lil' Lavery 14-06-2010 21:44

Re: Best Team by State
 
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Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 966620)
Maryland- 2377
Idaho- 2122
Georgia- 1771
Connecticut- 175
New York- 694

Not sure I'd agree with a couple of those. Certainly no offense intended to 694 in particular, but it's hard for me to say that they're better than 1126 or 340.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rutzman (Post 966629)
I think I have to disagree on Maryland.
While their on-the-field records are very similar, 1629 has an RCA and 2 EIs in the past three years. While I'm sure that 2377 will reach that plateau in the near future, I don't think they're quite there yet...

I'd probably agree. 2377 is an incredible team with an incredible team structure and mentor base. They're only going to get stronger. But 1629 has had a few more years to mature and build their program and has also set a very high standard of robots (though they don't have a ton of hardware from it).

Alex Cormier 14-06-2010 22:16

Re: Best Team by State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 966639)
Not sure I'd agree with a couple of those. Certainly no offense intended to 694 in particular, but it's hard for me to say that they're better than 1126 or 340.

I just made a list for NY:

20: (as of 2004) 3 champions, 2 finalists, 11 awards

191: (as of 2001, except for CA) 2 CMP CA, 2 champions, 3 finalists, 12 awards

340: 4 CA, 2 champions, 2 division champions, 2 finalists, 12 awards

375: 2 CA, 2 champions, 5 finalists, 19 awards

395: 1 CA, 6 champions, 1 finalists, 8 awards

694: 2 CA, 2 champions, 3 finalists, 12 awards

1126: 4 champions, 2 Division champions, 2 finalists, 9 awards

1511: 3 CA, RAS, 1 champions, 2 finalists, 17 awards


Totals;

20- 16+
191- 19+
340- 22
375- 28
395- 16
694- 19
1126- 17
1511- 24

The battle comes down to 340 vs 375 vs 1511.

Winner? Don't know.

Is there a team not up there that should be? Post it with numbers to prove it.

JamesBrown 17-06-2010 15:23

Re: Best Team by State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 966645)
I just made a list for NY:

20: (as of 2004) 3 champions, 2 finalists, 11 awards



The battle comes down to 340 vs 375 vs 1511.

Winner? Don't know.

Is there a team not up there that should be? Post it with numbers to prove it.

How can you not include team 20 in your potential choices? You are missing 12 seasons of their history (1992-2003).

That being said 1511 would have to get my vote, they have been one of the most successful teams in FIRST since they started in 2005 and are still yet to go to a regional and not take home an award.

Alex Cormier 17-06-2010 15:33

Re: Best Team by State
 
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Originally Posted by JamesBrown (Post 966941)
How can you not include team 20 in your potential choices? You are missing 12 seasons of their history (1992-2003).

That being said 1511 would have to get my vote, they have been one of the most successful teams in FIRST since they started in 2005 and are still yet to go to a regional and not take home an award.

That's all there was on the FIRST site, I did visit the 20 site. But there is no history of awards. (Usually a good thing to add to a site)

JamesBrown 17-06-2010 15:40

Re: Best Team by State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Cormier (Post 966951)
That's all there was on the FIRST site, I did visit the 20 site. But there is no history of awards. (Usually a good thing to add to a site)

I think you may have misinterpreted the part that surprised me. I couldn't find the rest of the award info either. I am not blaming you for the lack of info, just for not including them with the other three teams as your top votes. They have more than half the number of awards the other teams on the list do despite nearly 2/3 of their history is missing.

Mark McLeod 17-06-2010 16:53

Re: Best Team by State
 
Here are all the team awards 1992-2010 (year, team, event, award)
http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/AllAwards.xls

Look at the "Total Team Trophy's" tab for a sort by team/#awards

Some are missing from '93 and '94, but all the others are there.

I can add a column for country/state if you want to sort that way.
P.S. I'll post this change when I get home. It's too big to attach in a thread.

Team 20 has that oddity in their history where they were absorbed into 250 for a bit.
Other than that, they've earned 19 awards total.

P.P.S.
I've updated the linked file above to include team locations, so you can sort by your favorite location.
I should note that this is all teams ever, so some are now defunct. I should probably add a column that notes which are active (added an "Active" column).
Here are just the active NY teams ranked by total double-digit awards. You can get more sophisticated and also sort by the awards you yourself value most.
NY ----- 375 ----- 31
NY ----- 340 ----- 27
NY ----- 358 ----- 25
NY ----- 191 ----- 25
NY ---- 1511 ----- 24
NY ----- 694 ----- 21
NY ------ 20 ----- 19
NY ----- 522 ----- 19
NY ----- 250 ----- 18
NY ----- 395 ----- 18
NY ---- 1126 ----- 17
NY ----- 271 ----- 15
NY ----- 353 ----- 15
NY ----- 354 ----- 15
NY ----- 378 ----- 15
NY ----- 870 ----- 15
NY ----- 229 ----- 13
NY ----- 329 ----- 13
NY ----- 639 ----- 13
NY ----- 578 ----- 12
NY ----- 287 ----- 11
NY ---- 1155 ----- 10

Koko Ed 17-06-2010 18:27

Re: Best Team by State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 966967)
Here are all the team awards 1992-2010 (year, team, event, award)
http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/AllAwards.xls

Look at the "Total Team Trophy's" tab for a sort by team/#awards

Some are missing from '93 and '94, but all the others are there.

I can add a column for country/state if you want to sort that way.
P.S. I'll post this change when I get home. It's too big to attach in a thread.

Team 20 has that oddity in their history where they were absorbed into 250 for a bit.
Other than that, they've earned 19 awards total.

The FIRST site doesn't list our previous decade either.
We have about 26 total.

Mark McLeod 17-06-2010 18:29

Re: Best Team by State
 
I know of 24 for you, but do you know what other awards 191 received in 1993 and 1994?
Chairman's is obvious of course... :)
I'd like to add more details from those two sketchy years.

Koko Ed 17-06-2010 19:49

Re: Best Team by State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 966973)
I know of 24 for you, but do you know what other awards 191 received in 1993 and 1994?
Chairman's is obvious of course... :)
I'd like to add more details from those two sketchy years.

We won Team Spirit in '93.

Chris is me 17-06-2010 20:42

Re: Best Team by State
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesBrown (Post 966941)
How can you not include team 20 in your potential choices? You are missing 12 seasons of their history (1992-2003).

That being said 1511 would have to get my vote, they have been one of the most successful teams in FIRST since they started in 2005 and are still yet to go to a regional and not take home an award.

20 and 250 have fairly complicated, intertwined histories that make figuring out which team to credit which award to fairly difficult.

indieFan 21-06-2010 11:34

Re: Best Team by State
 
Since California is so large a state (think half the eastern seaboard), I'd say it should be broken into Northern and Southern California.

Northern CA: 254
Southern CA: 330

indieFan


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