Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

Its a backspin roller
and they have adjustable kicking power

and i'd suggest leaving these teams blank and letting them answer if they'd like, rather than providing incorrect information

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1114- Simbotics

Drive Train:
-8 wheel tank
-pneumatic tires
-bump easily
-tons of power
-pushes other bots easily
-good speed too

Ball Control:
-Pinch Roller
-Works fantastic
-Would drive up to a ball and would grab it like a magnet

Kicking Mechanism:
adjustable power kicking
long distance
very accurate
just really good.

Hanging:
-Probably best hanging in the whole field, probably whole FRC.
-Takes about 4 seconds
-Clamps bar and rotates up
-Fastest out there

Autonomous:
-Different programs for each section
-Always scores in autonomous

This team is fantastic. Any more questions, ask and I can answer. But just assume that they'll be one of the teams to beat for sure.

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/35309
if you look in this pic, the roller is the white cylinder, and there's another bar below it which is the "pinch bar". The kicker is under it.

Unless they have changed since Midwest...

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

The picture shows a pinchroller, and thats what they had at Midwest,so unless its changed since then.


and I said at the beginning of the post, I might not be completely right. If I say something incorrect, then correct me. There's nothing wrong with a team looking for some scouting information, so I'm throwing in what I've seen from the regionals we've been to. Every little bit helps.

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

If you are unsure on a detail, dont post that detail, at this moment in time I am conversing with a student on 16 and its a backspin roller, always has been.

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Thanks Nick, the information you are posting will help many teams, but yes we have always had a backspin roller, and variable kicking power.....

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

Team 2056- OP Robotics

Drive Train:
-It's a tank, but I don't remember how many wheels.
-It was a good drive train that maneuvered well and can keep up with hard action

Ball Control:
-pinchroller
-very good

Kicking Mechanism:
-Good Distance
-Good Accuracy
-One of the better out of the group

Hanging:
-Arm that has 2 wheels
-tower bar would go inbetween wheels, and they would drive up the pole
-took about 5-7 seconds
-might be the next best hanging device after 1114

Autonomous:
-Different programs for each section
-Always scored in autonomous

That's all the teams I can give you info on. I hope that took out a little chunk of that list. Were trying to make a scouting list as well, so I know its difficult. At least, just assume that about all of the teams will be at least good if not better.

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Thanks Austin, my mistake then. Then what is that bar under the roller in the picture. I know the kicker is the one on the bottom, so whats the thing in the middle?

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

It is a Backstop idler bar, that stops the ball from going into the robot too far. It also spins with the ball so that the ball is always spinning while we back up and rotate, making it hard to lose the ball...

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

2056 does not have a pinch roller. It is a version of a backspin roller but with a really cool feature. It extends outside of the robot for 2 seconds then goes back in for two seconds.

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Actually, I know plenty of teams that can block 469. 573 was the first team to block them from the tunnel. Other teams joined in, including but not limited to: 1023, 141, 2337, 66, and quite a bit more. If they get in the tunnel, there's another way to block them. You park your robot perpendicular to theirs and drive back and forth as the balls run down the chute. I've seen 217, 27, 33, and others do this quite a bit, and it is effective. Just look at 217 in the MSC finals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR3l_d8YPtA

We were at the Tardec Invitational at IGVC three weeks ago and there were only a couple matches where 469 started a cycle in the tunnel. The rest of their matches, they were blocked. They ended up in the bottom half of the rankings.

Today at MARC, it was the same story. They were blocked quite a bit. Actually, 1718 pushed them over a bump in one of their first matches.

Team 573 has versed 469 six times. We have blocked them from the tunnel four times. One of the two unsuccessful attempts was due to our C-Rio and the other was a misalignment.

tl;dr version: Blocking 469 isn't new, and there are many teams that have done it before.

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

Sorry, I suppose I wasn't clear when I said this. I meant how many teams do you know of that can block them from above. Of course you can block them from getting them in the tunnel or block the goals from the balls, but I was just talking about completely altering the balls completely away from them. The tunnel way is good, but one of your alliances robots is wasted doing that all match long. The blocking the goals way doesn't always work because 469's alliance can have a robot block you. Also, if 469 does give up on the ball return, they still have a pretty good ball control and kicker. The way I'm talking about defending them would stop the stream of balls, and force them to stay in the tunnel, preventing them from doing anything else, such as kicking and scoring like a normal bot.

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Ah. I didn't notice at the midwest regional that it was an idle free rolling bar. That makes more sene now. Very neat unique spin on the backspin idea (not to be punny lol)

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That's odd, considering they gave 2791 their spare vacuum and we competed with them when they had vacuums, twice.

Zero. As previously said, twice, this is illegal. Also, nothing stops 469 from disengaging their locks and leaving the tunnel to play in the mid field.

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Thank you guys so much. All of this will help greatly. Keep it up!