Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

(First, I want every to keep in mind that I am no big genius when it comes to robots, and I don't want to get involved in an argument whatsoever AT ALL.)

pwnageNick, I think what you are doing helps jeremy a lot, and I appreciate that!

However, while some people may view this in a different view, I view this more as an invasion of privacy. I don't see anything that the teams said it was OK for you to post the information. In fact, I think they would say its OK if a member of that team posted it themselves, rather than a person on another team.

If you would like to keep the spirit of gracious professionalism, I would suggest contacting the teams in anyway and asking if they would like to have their information given out. Then I would post the permission and how you managed to get it. That's what I would do.

pwnageNick, please don't take this as an insult. Take it more as a... um..."member who has a concern about your actions."

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idk. I suppose they must have had a vacuum and switched to this baskspin wheel thing later. At least, that's what thr picture shows on TBA.

There's already been a discussion about this further up the thread. Even though it would only be legal once, it is still helpful to have the option of doing it. And it seems that no one can think of a team that can block them from above like that. And also, if our robot is behind them (but not touching them, because that would be a red card) if they do decide to leave the tunnel they can't because were in the way behind them, and they wouldn't have enough room to get out of the tunnel and swerve sideways out (which idk if they even have a swerve drive).

That's all the info I got. I figured I would help out, since I'm looking to try and put a scouting sheet together as well.

To be honest, I'm just trying to help Jeremy the best I can. And I don't feel that anyone should have to get a team's permission before discussing said team in a discussion thread. That's kind of the point of ChiefDelphi, to be able to have open conversations about topics. Jeremy was looking for information about teams, so since some of those teams had not responded, I threw information out there about some teams that I was familiar with. Did I have all of my info 100% right? No, but I said right before I started that things might have changed or I might have seen something wrong, so if I do put something wrong, correct me. Even if the information you have is small in amount, its huge in helpfulness.

And don't worry, I'm not looking to argue with you, and I didn't take it as an insult.I get where your coming from.

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

After reading the past few posts, I retract what I said about posting info. Feel free to send me the info in a PM, I shall only post the info here if the team gives permission.
I apologise for any arguments that have been sparked. I also apologise to anyone who is somehow offended by this.

Since the team records and events are freely available, I can distribute team numbers. Then, people can search for that info and lighten the load for me. PM me if you are interested.

Also, If you have the standings and/or rankings from offseasons(TARDEC, MARC,etc), please PM me. TBA doesn't seem to have them this year.

This project wasn't meant to be an invasion of privacy, but a tool that all teams are free to use.

Thank you,
Jeremy.

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

Yes, both 1519 and 78 kept their vacuums throughout the season, and have continued to use vacuums at offseason events. These have been quite effective. At all of the tournaments both 1519 and 78 have attended this year (excepting the Championship) either their alliance or our alliance has won the tournament (GSR and two off-season events.)

A little history: we originally planned to use a full-width roller for ball possession. However, when the rule update came out clarifying the rules against possessing more than one ball simultaneously, we decided that a full-width roller would be likely to incur penalties and decided we needed to make a narrower roller. (For more information see http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...1&postcount=15 ) However, we later learned that a vacuum would hold the ball much more effectively than a roller -- in short, the advantage of a roller is that it could be made very wide, while the advantage of a vacuum is that it could hold the ball more tightly. Given our perspective that a full-width roller would incur rule violations, we went with the vacuum.

Now, having attended two regionals and the Championship event and seeing how the relevant rules have been interpreted and which are most strictly enforced, we likely would have been better off with a full-width roller that was slightly less able to retain a ball than a vacuum. We are considering replacing our vacuum with a full-width ball possession roller for IRI in order to acquire balls more quickly, even if it gives up a little bit in ball retention strength.

Nonetheless, we've been able to make pretty good use of our vacuum ball possession, particularly as it functions in conjunction with a pair of "ball shepherding belts" which roll balls in towards the vacuum when the robot is in contact with the ball. (See photo at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/35535).

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

UPDATE:

I am going to delay the release until FRIDAY. Several personal delays have prevented me from completing it.

I just want to get a little more information on the teams.

Can I ask some people to PM other teams? If they were posted by pwnageNick, ask for thier permission and any missing details. If they weren't posted at all, ask them if they would like to post.

There are several teams I have already(330,359,980,1592). If you are on the team, may I have your permission to post this? Not here in the forums, but in the scouting document/app i am releasing.

Thanks,
Jeremy

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

Jeremy, you are more than welcome to post what you have about our team's robot and if you need anymore info you can just message me on here

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

And I wanted to update our robot information... I had said that it may turn into an eight wheel drive, and it indeed will@be an eight wheel drive for IRI :D

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

A question... someone was saying that pwnageNick's strategy would get his team a yellow card. Since eliminations are best of 3, he could try it once, but the second time he would get a red card. So for the 3rd game, if he tried it yet again, would he get a yellow card or a red card? 2 yellow cards = 1 red card, but I don't know what happens when you get three yellow cards.

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

You get more red cards.

The intent of the rule is not to get Yellow Cards. There are far, far better "anti-469" strategies; I suggest you use them.

Re: Pre-event scouting--IRI
 

Please do not interpret my post as promoting pwnageNick's idea; I was only asking a question about the rules.