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nitbaj 23-06-2010 22:41

Drive Train Prototype
 
Team 461 has been prototyping an omni-directional drive train concept we call Jump Drive. It switches between mecanum wheels and traction wheels to allow omnidirectional movement and also pushing power (similar to 148's "nonadrive"). We began building it in the Fall of 2009 but were only just able to complete it and get video.

Hope you enjoy it and please let us know what you think.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEUIshtjbe4

Pictures: http://boilerinvasion.org/index.php?...2_itemId=24653

Hawiian Cadder 23-06-2010 23:56

Re: Drive Train Prototype
 
how much does that weigh?

548swimmer 23-06-2010 23:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawiian Cadder (Post 967489)
how much does that weigh?

Done properly, under 40 lbs.

sanddrag 23-06-2010 23:59

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Reminds me of team 980 in 2003, but they did it for switching "gears" not directions.

Brandon Holley 24-06-2010 00:02

Re: Drive Train Prototype
 
Very cool idea. I like the innovation.

As is, how much does that weigh? (not how much will it weigh eventually...)



-Brando

Hawiian Cadder 24-06-2010 00:03

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something i thought up that could either be more complex or simpler, a tank drive, with only omni wheels and some method to prevent sideways slip, that turned into a holonomic drive by angling the wheels. i think that because there would only be one set of wheels, it might leave more interior room for electronics and what have you.

CENTURION 24-06-2010 00:04

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WOW! Now that is cool :)

I kinda don't like how it bobs up and down when it switches wheels, but it's not really a problem (though it could easily be fixed with a few omnis, or casters)

GarrettF2395 24-06-2010 00:08

Re: Drive Train Prototype
 
Darn it! You guys beat me to it.
I've been playing around with this idea in my head for awhile now, though it's great to see someone actually build it.
Ok question time.
Is there a reason as to why you decided to have the mechanums on the outside instead of the inside?
Did you guys play around with any other configuration ideas, such as having all 8 of the wheels on the ground at once?

Great work, make sure to run some good tests on it and let us know what you find!

Andrew Remmers 24-06-2010 01:01

Re: Drive Train Prototype
 
How many Solenoids are there?

Chris is me 24-06-2010 01:07

Re: Drive Train Prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 548swimmer (Post 967490)
Done properly, under 40 lbs.

Where did you find out how much 461's prototype weigh? Or any mecanum - traction combo, anyway?

I heard (if you're wondering where, in the pits at Atlanta) the 148-217 drivetrain this year, while it had an extra wheel, weighed a lot more than that.

Ether 24-06-2010 07:09

Re: Drive Train Prototype
 
Where did you get those mecanum wheels? Never seen ones like that before.

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Jared Russell 24-06-2010 07:35

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Originally Posted by Ether (Post 967512)
Where did you get those mecanum wheels? Never seen ones like that before.

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I believe they are these.

548swimmer 24-06-2010 09:55

Re: Drive Train Prototype
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 967503)
Where did you find out how much 461's prototype weigh? Or any mecanum - traction combo, anyway?

I heard (if you're wondering where, in the pits at Atlanta) the 148-217 drivetrain this year, while it had an extra wheel, weighed a lot more than that.

For Overdrive we had a robot with eight wheels that could switch between two sets of four. The chassis sitting in our shop weighs under 40 lbs, though barely.

Alan Anderson 24-06-2010 09:56

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Does it spin in place well? It looks like the mecanum wheels might need to be swapped.

Ether 24-06-2010 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 967514)
I believe they are these.

Ah. Looks like they've been re-designed. The roller mounting tabs look a lot sturdier. It looks like the rollers still rub against the mounting tabs though. That's a bit disappointing.


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