Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

I will take my first shot at this.

Thanks Ed,

-RC

*I can help with running drafts if you need a body*

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

Is there a deadline to sign up? I want to do it, but I'm not sure I'll have the time to create all the lists. If possible, I would like to sign up a couple of days before the first draft, once I have several of the lists done.

I also have one suggestion. One thing that kinda annoyed me last year was the mad rush to pick up booted people's teams. I think those people get WAY too much of an advantage just because they posted first. Perhaps, we can make it that you must drop the team from that round or the following round. So, if you pick up the drops persons 1st round pick, you must drop either you first or second round pick (depending on the rule). This way you have to give up some value for an elite team, instead of just your last pick.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

I'd prefer this rule - if a team is picked from the randomizer, any other player can pick that team as if they weren't assigned to that player. If a player picks a team previously randomly assigned, the player getting the random team picks up the next one.

Basically, I see no reason to reward sheer dumb luck.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

The deadline is the day before the first draft.

As for picking randomly assigned teams...

In order to allow random teams to be picked after being assigned, the fact that it was a random pick needs to be noted. Sometimes, the next team on a player's list is also the next team on the random list, or the player requests a random pick. Either of the latter two cases would naturally bar the team from being picked again, as the second is effectively saying, "my list from here on is the random list". If truly random picks are designated with an "R" or something, it would make tracking that easier. It would also allow for tracking who has not made a pick that particular day.

As for dealing with a mad rush, that's going to happen anyway.

Here are my suggestions:

After a draft concludes, a 24-hour wait (until the next day's drafts end) is imposed before any changes can be made in that draft. During that time, random picks may be confirmed by the player, and errors are checked for. Trades posted during that time are counted as provisional; i.e., assuming that nobody confirms random teams. After the hold expires, all provisional trades are confirmed. Confirming a random team counts as making a pick, with the provision that simply confirming some X random alliances (>= 5) is dealt with the same as missing 5 drafts.

In the case of someone being booted, there is a hold imposed until the beginning of the next day's draft(s). This allows the runners to clean up the drafts involved, and all other players to plan for what teams they want. As soon as the next day's drafts officially begin at 7 EST (or other designated time), it's first-come-first-served. PMs may be sent to proxies if a player will not be online at the time of the draft beginning; if the proxy can get there before the other players, so much the better.

Just some suggestions.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

One idea: Don't assign random picks on the spot, but after the draft has concluded. That way the first guy who didn't send in a list doesn't randomly pick up 111 or whomever, and it still allows lazy people like me to make incomplete lists.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

This is the only idea I like. Instead of a random team the player gets ____, they can arrive later and change it out or after the draft it will be filled randomly.

I don't like the locks on the drafts until the day before the competition.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

You mean after, right? As in, after the draft? Because if you didn't read it that way, then I think you're misunderstanding me.

I'm not sure I like the blank spaces idea. Could it be done? Probably. But let's say that Elgin Clock is playing and says, I want all random picks in the Hawaii Regional. Do you a) give him random teams in the draft while it is still going on, or do you b) wait until the end, when the random list is mostly empty and has no good teams left on it? Either way, somebody's going to be unhappy about it.

[Note: I'm picking on Elgin because he has the tendency to make random picks late in the season; no other reason.]

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

At the risk of overwhelming this thread with a bunch of different suggedtions I'm going to throw mine into the mix.

I recommend leaving the random team system the way it is. It still penalizes players for missing drafts and does so much more severely than systems in other fantasy sports which assign the next highest player on a projected points list.

My idea for team pickup is to institute a waiver wire. What this means is that each player is assigned a waiver priority. The initial priorities would be reverse order of finish from last year's season league with new players inserted at the top in random order. When new teams are added to events or a player is booted the team will be placed on waivers. A team remains on waivers for some set period of time (probably 24 hours) where players can submit waiver claims, then the team gets processed. The player with the highest priority that puts in a claim is awarded the team. That player then moves to the bottom of the priority list. If a player wants to make multiple claims during one waiver period they must list the order they want their claims processed in. If a team passes through waivers with no claims they become free and anyone can pick them up at any time.

Reading my explanation, it sounds really confusing, but the system is really not quite as complicated as it sounds.

The waiver priority list and claims would all be handled in one thread which I would volunteer to handle.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

I'm in (also for my first season).

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

So, what you're saying is that new players and players who did poorly last year get first crack at newly available teams. Anybody who wants X newly available team submits a claim, then the team goes to whoever has top priority and wants them. If you claim a team successfully, you're automatically at the bottom of the priority list--and if nobody wants a team during the waiver period, they're designated a free agent, first-come-first-serve.

I like it.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

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2. Vikesrock
3. rtfgnow
4. Barry Bonzack
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7. dodar
8. hill
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Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

Yep, that summary is pretty much right on. We can tune the waiver period to make it closer to first come-first serve or closer to giving good teams away to players that haven't performed as well to help balance things.

For the small number of inseason changes that happen, the priority would likely be the inverse of the standings as of that week.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

I was thinking more like this:

newly-available team: Any team that becomes available for any reason more than X time after a draft (say 24 hours--that's usually enough time to settle down any post-draft trades).

During the drafting/build seasons, newly-available teams go through the waiver process as outlined above.

During competition, the priority is based on number of missing teams, and current standings (each missing team being equivalent to Y leapfrogs higher up the list, and standings in reverse order).

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

The problem is that it penalizes the people diligent enough to actually care who they draft too. I don't see how replacing a team with a blanked out square for a half hour will kill the drafts.

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 

If someone is making a lot of random picks, they'll probably get the boot anyways. If someone simply missed a draft due to unforeseeable circumstances, then they'll be much relieved that they got a good team. Or, what's more likely, they ran out of teams on their list and will take whoever, so it's not like the teams are going to be the greatest anyway. If 111 slips to the third round of a draft with one or two random teams, and gets picked by the randomizer for somebody, there are much worse problems than the randomizer!

I fail to see how replacing a team with a blanked-out square will help anything at all.