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ATannahill 29-12-2010 15:45

on2
 
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I realize there are enough teams to do it in one draft but I don't want to cut it so close.

Koko Ed 29-12-2010 16:57

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ATannahill 29-12-2010 17:01

Re: GTR East Randomized Rankings
 
Words cannot descripe the anger that would ensue if the first two people in a tier got random teams.

Vikesrock 29-12-2010 21:05

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'll take Northstar for tomorrow night.

Randoms:
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Koko Ed 30-12-2010 15:52

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Koko Ed 30-12-2010 20:50

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Be aware that there are no drafts tomorrow because it's New Year's eve.
Enjoy your night off folks and have a Happy New Year. We'll resume drafting next year.

Koko Ed 01-01-2011 08:38

Oregon Randomized Rankings
 
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EricH 01-01-2011 20:43

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Last week of drafting, so here's when the drafts are:
Quote:

January 2
Livonia
Troy
Week 6
January 3
North Carolina
Philadelphia
January 4
Buckeye
Utah
January 5
Virginia
Colorado
January 6
Boston
Niles
January 7
Dallas
Waterford
Reminder, Michigan State Championship is sometime during the week before the event and the Championship divisional drafting is the weekend before the Championship.

Also, the following have missing teams already:
dodar: Finger Lakes 1, 3162
Tim Delles: Kansas City, 2334
Barry Bonzack: West MI 2, 548
Bethany Mc.: West MI 1, 548

Koko Ed 02-01-2011 04:00

Troy Randomized Rankings
 
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ATannahill 02-01-2011 12:57

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Koko Ed 03-01-2011 15:18

Philadelphia Randomized Rankings
 
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EricH 03-01-2011 17:11

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'll go ahead and take North Carolina.

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Ed, do you have any NC lists other than Barry's?

Koko Ed 03-01-2011 17:13

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 990508)
I'll go ahead and take North Carolina.

Randoms:
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Ed, do you have any NC lists other than Barry's?

Just yours and Basel's

Koko Ed 04-01-2011 15:23

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EricH 04-01-2011 17:14

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Utah randoms:
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ATannahill 04-01-2011 20:35

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Word to the wise. If you paritcipated in both drafts tonight (all nine of you) you are safe for the season. For the other three, you need to participate in at least one draft over the next three days.

dodar 04-01-2011 20:36

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
which group am i included in?

EricH 04-01-2011 20:38

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 991300)
which group am i included in?

I've got you in the participating group, both drafts.

Incidentally, I think Barry and I are going to do very well in Utah, as (due to a bunch of folks taking randoms/not showing up) we split what I think are the top 4 teams between us...

ATannahill 04-01-2011 20:39

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Live picks count as participation, you are safe.


And to everyone, just because your safe doesn't mean you should start slacking.

EricH 04-01-2011 20:41

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 991303)
And to everyone, just because your safe doesn't mean you should start slacking.

Yes. We do have 5 drafts coming after build season. MSC happens right before Week 6; the four Championship drafts happen the weekend before the event. Plus there are waivers, missing teams, and the occasional adding team to deal with.

dodar 04-01-2011 20:41

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
i was just curious because i had missed a few drafts early in the year.

EricH 04-01-2011 20:43

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 991307)
i was just curious because i had missed a few drafts early in the year.

It's missing drafts in a row that gets you in trouble. Missing a draft here or a draft there isn't a big deal.

dodar 04-01-2011 20:45

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 991309)
It's missing drafts in a row that gets you in trouble. Missing a draft here or a draft there isn't a big deal.

Oh, I always thought it was just a counter and if you missed a total of X, you would get kicked.

Karibou 04-01-2011 21:20

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I forgot to send along a PM that I wanted randoms for Utah :/ I've been out of the house all day, and didn't get a chance to do it at lunch or at work.

I'll definitely get tomorrow's list in.

Koko Ed 05-01-2011 01:09

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 991298)
Word to the wise. If you paritcipated in both drafts tonight (all nine of you) you are safe for the season. For the other three, you need to participate in at least one draft over the next three days.

I can only recall two who did not participate in tonight's draft. Josh and Kara.

EricH 05-01-2011 01:10

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 991414)
I can only recall two who did not participate in tonight's draft. Josh and Kara.

I didn't see anything from Tim in Utah.

Oh, and Kara--you got the randoms.;)

Koko Ed 05-01-2011 01:13

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 991416)
I didn't see anything from Tim in Utah.

Oh, and Kara--you got the randoms.;)

I'm not surprised he passed on Utah. The teams there aren't very well known.
Tim sent me a list for Buckeye.

EricH 05-01-2011 01:43

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'll go ahead and plan on taking Colorado. I won't be able to run anything Thursday or Friday, though--other plans.

Basel A 05-01-2011 02:10

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Has anyone in the past tried corelating average draft position with end standings? While I imagine most winners were those who picked better than others, especially with roughly equal average positions, it's more of an interesting statistical analysis.

EricH 05-01-2011 02:13

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 991434)
Has anyone in the past tried corelating average draft position with end standings? While I imagine most winners were those who picked better than others, especially with roughly equal average positions, it's more of an interesting statistical analysis.

I've thought about doing it, but haven't gotten around to it. I've been busy with other things in the league (like boot % and drafting software and my current project, a "little" device to help make lists).

Koko Ed 05-01-2011 15:07

Virgina Randomized Rankings
 
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EricH 05-01-2011 15:08

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Colorado randoms
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EricH 06-01-2011 13:21

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
As I noted before, I will not be able to run any drafts either today or tomorrow due to other plans and commitments. Ed has my lists.

Koko Ed 06-01-2011 15:14

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ATannahill 06-01-2011 15:39

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'm not available today nor tomorrow. My Niles list is in with Ed, Kevin and Chris.

Vikesrock 06-01-2011 16:30

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I can take the other draft tonight. I'm still at work so it should be up in an hour or so.

Vikesrock 06-01-2011 17:58

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Niles Randoms:
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Koko Ed 07-01-2011 16:36

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Vikesrock 07-01-2011 18:43

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I can run the Waterford draft if we still want to do it tonight. I wasn't sure I was going to be around so I didn't commit earlier.

I currently have lists from just Barry and rtfgnow for Waterford (and myself of course).

Do we want to just go ahead and run it to get it done before Kickoff or do we want to delay it because of the short notice of who was running it?

Basel A 07-01-2011 18:44

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 992560)
I can run the Waterford draft if we still want to do it tonight. I wasn't sure I was going to be around so I didn't commit earlier.

I currently have lists from just Barry and rtfgnow for Waterford (and myself of course).

Do we want to just go ahead and run it to get it done before Kickoff or do we want to delay it because of the short notice of who was running it?

I'm available to do my picks live, so I guess that makes a grand total of three...
My guess is it'd probably be best to put it off until later, given the very short notice.

ATannahill 07-01-2011 18:55

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
It was scheduled for tongiht and it is not unusual to have the draft up this late, I would like to have it done tonight. Also I bet Ed has a list for Eric and himself.

Vikesrock 07-01-2011 19:00

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
We now have at least half of the players who are either present or have lists in. The draft was on the schedule for tonight for quite a while so there was plenty of time to get a list in to Ed who has forwarded me any he had.

Waterford Randoms:
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Koko Ed 08-01-2011 02:12

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Due to crashing and burning on takeoff several times the last drafts took a WHOLE LOT longer than anticipated but they are done. With that the draft season is completed. Keep a close eye on the regionals as teams come and go constantly right up to practice day. Remember if you are going to trade make sure they are even trades. Take care of all waiver requests in the Waiver Thread.
Congratualations on making it through the long process and good luck this upcoming season.
Enjoy kickoff and get to work!

EricH 08-01-2011 03:38

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
FYI: just because drafting is done does not mean that event lists are static. The waiver thread will also be carrying a list of who is missing teams, including which and where. Folks that are missing teams in a tier get a big boost to their waiver status! OTOH, sometimes really good teams sign up late. Find them and let everyone know by announcing in the waiver thread, and we'll see about getting them sent out.

Also, MSC is drafted sometime around Week 6, so after about Week 3 you might want to start figuring out who you might like.

ATannahill 08-01-2011 07:48

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Also congratulations to EricH, Vikesrock, Barry Bonzack and rtfgnow for perfect attendance.

ATannahill 08-01-2011 07:55

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I think that in light of what happened last night, any trades made in Dallas or Waterford should not go on the waiver wire.

EricH 08-01-2011 13:11

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 992695)
I think that in light of what happened last night, any trades made in Dallas or Waterford should not go on the waiver wire.

For at least a week.

Barry Bonzack 11-01-2011 18:53

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So now that we know the new definition of the Coopertition award, is it an engineering award or not? I vote yes

ATannahill 14-01-2011 21:24

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Each of the Seattle events dropped 23 teams, I think we should wait and see if teams get added back into the pool.

Koko Ed 14-01-2011 21:39

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1000308)
Each of the Seattle events dropped 23 teams, I think we should wait and see if teams get added back into the pool.

Whoa!
That's a significant amount of teams!
I hope that's just a website error.

EricH 26-01-2011 20:44

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Seattle was transitioning teams to even the events out.

I've suggested that instead of the normal waiver procedure, the following be used:

If someone has a team that switches Seattle events, they get first claim in the new event, if they want that team, with no waiver penalty. If a team on each of their Seattle alliances switches, they can simply switch which event they have the teams for--an inter-event trade with themselves--again with no waiver penalty. Any team not claimed this way goes to normal waiver and is subject to normal waiver rules.

This would also apply to any other double events that had a team switch.

EricH 04-02-2011 17:31

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Seattle has realigned. Everyone was affected--at least one team switched per person (and for most people, that's one per event). So, here's the plan on that:

If you had a "balanced" switch (i.e., 1 team switched from each event), you will simply get those teams in their new event. For example, Alex had 2 teams go from Olympic to Cascade, and 2 from Cascade to Olympic. Those teams will be traded between events. We'll do that automatically. (Alex, Barry, dodar, Karibou, and Tim, this is you guys.)

If you did not have a "balanced" switch, you get to decide what to do. You can choose not to switch any teams over. You can choose to take all of the switched teams and drop a team you already have. You can choose to take fewer switched teams and go pot luck on waiver picks for missing teams. You make the decision. (If you weren't on the list above, this is you.)

Ed and Chris kept their Olympic alliances intact; Basel did the same for his Cascade alliance. There were a couple of brand-new teams, and a bunch of teams in the pool that traded, but we'll put those up after about a week to give folks time to make their decisions on current teams.

If you want to know which teams you have that switched, shoot Alex or myself a PM. We both have that data.

(I already posted this into the waiver thread.)

Koko Ed 04-02-2011 17:35

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1015724)
Seattle has realigned. Everyone was affected--at least one team switched per person (and for most people, that's one per event). So, here's the plan on that:

If you had a "balanced" switch (i.e., 1 team switched from each event), you will simply get those teams in their new event. For example, Alex had 2 teams go from Olympic to Cascade, and 2 from Cascade to Olympic. Those teams will be traded between events. We'll do that automatically. (Alex, Barry, dodar, Karibou, and Tim, this is you guys.)

If you did not have a "balanced" switch, you get to decide what to do. You can choose not to switch any teams over. You can choose to take all of the switched teams and drop a team you already have. You can choose to take fewer switched teams and go pot luck on waiver picks for missing teams. You make the decision. (If you weren't on the list above, this is you.)

Ed and Chris kept their Olympic alliances intact; Basel did the same for his Cascade alliance. There were a couple of brand-new teams, and a bunch of teams in the pool that traded, but we'll put those up after about a week to give folks time to make their decisions on current teams.

If you want to know which teams you have that switched, shoot Alex or myself a PM. We both have that data.

(I already posted this into the waiver thread.)

GAH! Do the powers that be in Seattle realize that they are upsetting the delicate balance that keep Fantasy FIRST intact? Have they no sense opf compassion for the amount of work the Fantasy FIRST moderators have to put in to fix the wrongs they have imposed upon us in the midst of build season? HAVE THEY NO SHAME?


GAH!

EricH 04-02-2011 17:49

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Hey, Ed, you got it easy. You only have to decide whether or not you want 3801 in Olympic, who you want to replace them with in Cascade, and if you do want them in Olympic, who you drop.

I gotta do the same thing for three separate teams.

EricH 04-02-2011 18:02

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'll be going through Olympic and Cascade later tonight to make the automatic trades and mark the swapped teams. I use underline on the official scoring sheet, so that's what I'll probably use.

IndySam 10-02-2011 10:46

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Am I missing something or are the players this year so dumb that we weren't picked up off of waivers the second we became available at boilermaker? :rolleyes:

Chris is me 10-02-2011 10:51

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 1019904)
Am I missing something or are the players this year so dumb that we weren't picked up off of waivers the second we became available at boilermaker? :rolleyes:

I would have but I have the most absurd alliance there already so I wouldn't know who to drop :(

IndySam 10-02-2011 11:03

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1019910)
I would have but I have the most absurd alliance there already so I wouldn't know who to drop :(

OK Chris is off the hook, but the rest of you....:P

EricH 10-02-2011 11:31

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 1019917)
OK Chris is off the hook, but the rest of you....:P

Like Chris, I've got a pretty powerful alliance. I'm thinking I might have room, though...

EricH 14-02-2011 17:59

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I've put the sheet with everybody's alliances up at http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2447.

Please review your alliances and make sure I've got them right; also, if you have missing teams, it would be a good idea to replace them before the event, as I tend to give out random teams once the drafts lock.

ATannahill 25-02-2011 18:35

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Attention all.

Week one events start in less than a week. You all need to head over to http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2447 and make sure your lists are correct. The lists lock at midnight the night before the event.

Eric, I think it is time to assign randoms in Toronto.

EricH 25-02-2011 20:39

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
What do you mean by Toronto, Alex? Toronto's Week 5, and only one person has a currently-missing team there. (Josh Fox, East 2, 3683)

Week 1 missing teams:
Tim Delles, New Jersey, 3123.

Standard policy if you're missing teams: You choose a replacement. You can grab a team off the waiver list for that event, if you choose (but you go to the bottom of the waiver list), or any other available team. However, if you do not choose a replacement before the lists lock (the midnight before the event begins), then a random team will be assigned.

Oh, and while I'm on the topic of missing teams: Barry, Bethany, Josh, and Basel, you guys need to check your teams in Seattle! You all have an unbalanced number of teams switching events, so trades will not happen automatically! (Chris, this goes for you, too, but it's more of a reminder that you have two empty spots in Cascade to fill.) I'm certain that someone who has an empty spot would be more than happy to take some of the swapped teams off your hands via waiver, should it come to that.

ATannahill 25-02-2011 20:49

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Uh, yeah I meant Seattle. I'm still trying to catch up on my sleep.

EricH 25-02-2011 20:52

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'm going to send a PM to make sure that they know that they may be losing all their swapped teams to the waiver list--give it a week, and if at least one or two don't show I'll be shocked. Barry's not going to let 2122 and 1425 go that easily, I'm sure, and I'm equally certain about Bethany and 1983 not parting if there's a chance of not parting.

EricH 03-03-2011 15:05

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Hello there...

Week One events locked at midnight last night, with no issues in Week One.

Now, Week 2 has some missing teams.
Chris is me: Superior, 2175
dodar: San Diego, 568; Israel, 3076
Basel A: Florida, 3589; Kansas City, 2359;
Josh Fox: Wisconsin, 279

If your name is on that list, any missing teams when the lists lock for Week 2 will be replaced with random teams.

Quick note: I have no clue what my Internet situation will be between Saturday and Friday morning next week. As such, scoring may be a little bit slow; as soon as I can get something up, I will. The current scoring sheet will be posted shortly.

Chris is me 03-03-2011 15:22

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
For Cascade, I have no real preference what teams I get.

EricH 03-03-2011 15:36

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1034165)
For Cascade, I have no real preference what teams I get.

I've assigned randoms for you.

EricH 04-03-2011 21:43

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Just to make sure people have plenty of time, as I'll be sans Internet for the next week or so, here are the Week 3 non-Seattle issues, all dropped teams:

Koko Ed: Peachtree, 3836; Detroit, 2673; West MI 2, 862
Barry Bonzack: West MI 2, 548
dodar: West MI 1, 862
Basel A: Chesapeake, 2890
Bethany Mc: Chesapeake, 1708

Basel A 04-03-2011 22:44

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Highest numbered rookie for my weeks 2 and 3 missing teams please

EricH 05-03-2011 00:03

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Taken care of.

Current issues:
Week 2
dodar: San Diego, 568; Israel, 3076
Josh Fox: Wisconsin, 279

Week 3
Koko Ed: Peachtree, 3836; Detroit, 2673; West MI 2, 862
Barry Bonzack: West MI 2, 548
dodar: West MI 1, 862
Bethany Mc: Chesapeake, 1708

Vikesrock 05-03-2011 20:39

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I've decided that scoring the regionals manually takes way longer than I want to spend this competition season.

So I've decided to write a program to do it for me (or most of it at least, I'm not sure how to automate elim wins and losses and high score yet). What this means is that the regional score sheet for this week may not be up until tomorrow, but it should allow me to get regional score sheets up on Saturday night for every week from here on out.

If I get really adventurous I am going to try playing around with Excel macros to do the user scoring automatically as well, but that may be next weekend's projects

Barry Bonzack 05-03-2011 22:27

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 1035141)
I've decided that scoring the regionals manually takes way longer than I want to spend this competition season.

So I've decided to write a program to do it for me (or most of it at least, I'm not sure how to automate elim wins and losses and high score yet). What this means is that the regional score sheet for this week may not be up until tomorrow, but it should allow me to get regional score sheets up on Saturday night for every week from here on out.

If I get really adventurous I am going to try playing around with Excel macros to do the user scoring automatically as well, but that may be next weekend's projects

Sweet, thanks for working on this, can't wait to see some scores!

Vikesrock 05-03-2011 22:35

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 1035219)
Sweet, thanks for working on this, can't wait to see some scores!

Impeccable timing. I've got the program working, but there is still some work to be done manually for each regional and I'm not sure I want to tackle it tonight.

I would expect team scoring to be up tomorrow morning. With Eric away, I'll probably go ahead and do the individual scoring as well after I get the team scores up.

Barry Bonzack 05-03-2011 22:39

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1034829)
Taken care of.

Current issues:
Week 2
dodar: San Diego, 568; Israel, 3076
Josh Fox: Wisconsin, 279

Week 3
Koko Ed: Peachtree, 3836; Detroit, 2673; West MI 2, 862
Barry Bonzack: West MI 2, 548
dodar: West MI 1, 862
Bethany Mc: Chesapeake, 1708

At W.MI 2 I have "67.....1254....2075"

But Kevin suggested Ed need to swap out 862. Can we automatically give him 2245 who is on Waiver?

Vikesrock 06-03-2011 09:53

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Preliminary week 1 team scores are posted here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2463

Kettering awards haven't been posted yet and I am missing Woodie Flowers from Alamo and Dean's List from FLR.

EDIT: Oops. My program apparently has issues with double digit wins and losses right now. Corrected sheet going up now.

Vikesrock 06-03-2011 17:00

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'm still waiting on Kettering awards before posting final Week 1 scores, but here are the current totals:

rtfgnow: 621
Basel A.: 560
Chris is Me: 556
EricH: 547
Vikesrock: 513
Barry Bonzack: 510
dodar: 478
Bethany Mc.: 440
Koko Ed: 387
Josh Fox: 366
Tim Delles: 360
Karibou: 347

Alex has a commanding lead, with consistent performances across the board. Basel isn't too far off the pace powered by getting the entire Alamo winning alliance with Chris and Eric right on his tail.

The rest of us have some catchup to do, but it is only week 1.

Barry Bonzack 06-03-2011 19:36

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
This is great. Are you planning on putting names next to the owners? I suggest a column for each tier in a column before the team number, then using a SUMIF() formula to automatically calculate the scores. If you want me to do a page as an example let me know, but i'm a tad busy this week with the Florida Regional.

Koko Ed 06-03-2011 19:39

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 1035627)
I'm still waiting on Kettering awards before posting final Week 1 scores, but here are the current totals:

rtfgnow: 621
Basel A.: 560
Chris is Me: 556
EricH: 547
Vikesrock: 513
Barry Bonzack: 510
dodar: 478
Bethany Mc.: 440
Koko Ed: 387
Josh Fox: 366
Tim Delles: 360
Karibou: 347

Alex has a commanding lead, with consistent performances across the board. Basel isn't too far off the pace powered by getting the entire Alamo winning alliance with Chris and Eric right on his tail.

The rest of us have some catchup to do, but it is only week 1.

If Barry is within 200 points of you then he's too close for comfort.

Vikesrock 06-03-2011 19:45

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 1035724)
This is great. Are you planning on putting names next to the owners? I suggest a column for each tier in a column before the team number, then using a SUMIF() formula to automatically calculate the scores. If you want me to do a page as an example let me know, but i'm a tad busy this week with the Florida Regional.

My initial idea was to modify Eric's sheet so that the regional name was a merged cell and each team a player had was it's own cell. Then I was going to do a lookup using the teams and event code into a sheet containing a master list of all the teams, events and total scores.

Your idea sounds interesting and may be a bit easier, I'll look into it. I did the player scoring manually this week, looking to automate it will be something I work on either during the week or next weekend.

Barry Bonzack 07-03-2011 15:43

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 1035627)

rtfgnow: 621
Basel A.: 560
Chris is Me: 556
EricH: 547
Vikesrock: 513
Barry Bonzack: 510
dodar: 478
Bethany Mc.: 440
Koko Ed: 387
Josh Fox: 366
Tim Delles: 360
Karibou: 347

This is a much much better start than last year... ::devious grin::

Vikesrock 09-03-2011 18:07

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Final Week 1 scores are done. Both the team/event sheet and player sheet can be found here:

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2463

I have automated the player scoring by making some modifications to Eric's workbook and using a long nasty formula to do matching by team and event to a single long list of the teams with event codes and scores.

I will be going through and fixing up the rest of the weeks to look the same as week 1 and trying to catch any team changes made that are not currently in my copy. I hope to have an updated copy posted by the end of the night.

Vikesrock 09-03-2011 21:30

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Fully updated version posted.

Week 1 scores remained almost the same. I remembered I had listed WFFAs for Traverse City because FIRST listed (2) them. Michigan does not award WFFA at the district level according to the Michigan Rules Supplement and Kettering has none listed, so I removed them and changed the scores for teams 141 and 201.

As far as I know this sheet should have the all of the latest changes incorporated. If any of your teams are incorrect please let me know.

EricH 11-03-2011 16:01

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Now that I'm back...

First, thanks for automating the scoring.

Second, I find it kind of, shall we say, wide of the mark, to say that the scores didn't change much. The following is what I have from your sheet (which does include Kettering):

Code:

rtfgnow    725
Barry Bonzack    685
Basel A    634
Vikesrock    622
Chris is me    620
EricH    601
Bethany Mc.    557
dodar    514
Josh Fox    489
Tim Delles    466
Karibou    464
Koko Ed    446


Vikesrock 11-03-2011 16:07

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1037946)
Second, I find it kind of, shall we say, wide of the mark, to say that the scores didn't change much. The following is what I have from your sheet (which does include Kettering):

Sorry for the confusion. I was trying to convey that the final update that I posted had minor changes from the previous update which had included Kettering.

Basel A 11-03-2011 16:17

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Heh, a third of my points from one event.

Koko Ed 12-03-2011 05:36

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1037946)
Now that I'm back...

First, thanks for automating the scoring.

Second, I find it kind of, shall we say, wide of the mark, to say that the scores didn't change much. The following is what I have from your sheet (which does include Kettering):

Code:

rtfgnow    725
Barry Bonzack    685
Basel A    634
Vikesrock    622
Chris is me    620
EricH    601
Bethany Mc.    557
dodar    514
Josh Fox    489
Tim Delles    466
Karibou    464
Koko Ed    446


Wow.
I went from meh to Ultrafail in the blink of an eye. :(

EricH 12-03-2011 11:50

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Yeah, but Pink's doing well in Florida last I checked. And you've got Simbotics in Pitt. You should be able to pull up a few spots this week.

It's next week you want to worry about--or should I just assume high rookie for Peachtree (3836 missing), Detroit (2673 missing), and/or West MI (862 missing)?

Vikesrock 13-03-2011 07:49

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
New York and Israel aren't finished yet and some Dean's List and WFFA's are missing, but here are your current standings:
Code:

Vikesrock        1103
Barry Bonzack        974
Chris is me        831
Karibou                817
Josh Fox        809
EricH          767
rtfgnow              765
dodar          698
Basel A              686
Koko Ed                645
Bethany Mc.        547
Tim Delles        498

Updated sheets will be up momentarily. KC, San Diego and Duluth are the events missing Dean's List and WFFA teams.

EricH 13-03-2011 11:20

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Just to check: That score is just for this week, right? Because if it isn't, I think someone has some 'splainin' to do.;)

Also, I'm confused right now. I'm listed with 650 on the sheet, and 767 on the above list. It doesn't help that 1065's Quality award wasn't counted (Cell AC, the one for that award, is overlooked by the summing formula--you may want to rerun the numbers)--but that'll only give 665, leaving 102 points somewhere. I'd figure they're in San Diego, except that my reckoning gives more points than that...

One further comment: Barry isn't in first yet.:ahh: That goes to the one person to break 1000 in a single week so far--and they've got over 100 points on Barry.

Vikesrock 13-03-2011 11:28

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Not sure why I posted the Week 2 numbers and called them "current standings", I either should have posted the standings, or called them the "Week 2 scores"

Nice catch on the Quality Award. That's a pretty big error on my part. Not only was the Quality Award not being counted, the Spirit award was being counted once at it's point value and once at the Quality point value.

I'll fix up the scoring for all affected teams and post up the corrected sheet.


A note I forgot in my previous post is any team listed in bold for a scored week 2 event is a random replacement for a missing team.

Vikesrock 13-03-2011 12:05

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Updated sheets should be posted

Current Week 2 scores
Code:

Vikesrock        1103
Barry Bonzack        959
Chris is me        846
Karibou                832
Josh Fox            809
EricH                782
rtfgnow                780
Basel A                701
dodar                698
Koko Ed                660
Bethany Mc.        547
Tim Delles        483

Overall Standings
Code:

Vikesrock        1710
Barry Bonzack        1659
rtfgnow                1535
Chris is me    1527
EricH          1436
Basel A              1365
Karibou                1334
Josh Fox        1313
dodar                1216
Bethany Mc.        1114
Koko Ed                1108
Tim Delles        966


ATannahill 13-03-2011 12:25

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Vikes, I saw that you made some swaps in certain events. Did you make sure that they had been updated after the build season waiver results?

Vikesrock 13-03-2011 12:33

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1038528)
Vikes, I saw that you made some swaps in certain events. Did you make sure that they had been updated after the build season waiver results?

I checked to make sure the teams were available using the scoring sheet which *should* be fully updated.

I didn't check if everybody else's teams were correct in the threads or if the available teamlist was correct ::ouch::

EricH 13-03-2011 14:21

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Yep, I do my best to make sure everything is up to date.

So far, Week 3 issues:
Seattle:
Vikesrock: Cascade, missing team
Bethany Mc: Still waiting on what's supposed to happen there... If anybody happens to contact her, it might be a good idea to mention that Skunkworks is one of the teams that switched events.

Koko Ed: Peachtree, 3836; Detroit, 2673; West MI 2, 862
dodar: West MI 1, 862
Basel A: Chesapeake, 2890
Bethany Mc: Chesapeake, 1708


And, just to get people thinking a bit, Week 4:

Koko Ed: Palmetto, 108
Chris is me: Oregon, 852
dodar: Oregon, 948, 2412

Koko Ed 13-03-2011 14:36

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1038579)
Yep, I do my best to make sure everything is up to date.

So far, Week 3 issues:
Seattle:
Vikesrock: Cascade, missing team
Bethany Mc: Still waiting on what's supposed to happen there... If anybody happens to contact her, it might be a good idea to mention that Skunkworks is one of the teams that switched events.

Koko Ed: Peachtree, 3836; Detroit, 2673; West MI 2, 862
dodar: West MI 1, 862
Basel A: Chesapeake, 2890
Bethany Mc: Chesapeake, 1708


And, just to get people thinking a bit, Week 4:

Koko Ed: Palmetto, 108
Chris is me: Oregon, 852
dodar: Oregon, 948, 2412

Just fix my missing teams with randoms.
I pretty much screwed anyways.

Vikesrock 13-03-2011 19:59

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Got NYC scored, waiting on this information (plus Israel) to wrap up week 2:

Superior WFFA and confirmation of no Dean's List
San Diego WFFA and 1 Dean's List
New York WFFA and 1 Dean's List

Either Ed or I have posts in the appropriate regional threads requesting the information so hopefully we can get it tracked down.

dodar 13-03-2011 20:59

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
just give me randoms for my missing teams for week 3

Vikesrock 16-03-2011 14:57

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Israel has been scored. Sheets will be updated very shortly.

Current standings:
Code:

Vikesrock        1984
Barry Bonzack        1814
Chris is me        1643
rtfgnow                1621
EricH                1580
Josh Fox        1534
Karibou                1475
Basel A                1416
dodar                1309
Koko Ed              1274
Bethany Mc.        1229
Tim Delles        1096


Vikesrock 19-03-2011 22:55

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I'll be running scores tomorrow, but I just wanted to get this up here to see if anyone objects.

The Coopertition Award at the Peachtree Regional was not awarded. This was an error as we (3573) put up 122's minibot in our second to last qual match (and informed the volunteers whose mini it was). This was the only mini sharing at the event. After 122 won Chairman's they didn't want to bother finding out why the Coop wasn't awarded, but I plan on scoring it for them.

Any objections?

EricH 19-03-2011 23:02

Re: [FF]: 2011 Seaon Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I don't object.

Now, if Seattle will just finish getting their match scores up...

Heads up:

Hawaii: Team 8 won't be attending. That'll be Chris and Josh needing to deal with that.
Oregon: Chris, 852 is missing.

All other Week 4 issues have already had random-team requests made.

Week 5:

Basel A: Livonia, 68
Bethany Mc: Las Vegas, 841
Tim Delles: Livonia, 322
Josh Fox, GTR East 2, 3683; Las Vegas, 3759; Smokey Mountain, 348

dodar and Ed also have missing teams, but have requested randoms.

Week 6:
rtfgnow: Dallas, missing team
Karibou: Virginia, 614


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