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EricH 29-07-2010 15:01

[FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
It's time for some planning ahead...

For those competing in the Season Long Fantasy FIRST league, there has been a discussion of modifying the procedure for picking up a newly added team from first-come-first-serve to a waiver system. With clearance from Ed to try it out, there are still a few questions to answer. I'll give my answer; anybody who has another answer, speak up.

(For an explanation of how this works, see this post.)

1) Which teams are subject to the waiver process?
--My thought is, if the team is in the pool of available teams at the end of a draft (or, more likely, an hour after the draft), they should not be included in the waiver process unless they are picked and dropped. All teams added to the pool, even by being dropped, after the draft ends would be subject to waivers.

2) How long should a new team be on waivers?
--I think I speak for both Kevin (Vikesrock) and myself when I say that we're thinking no more than a day or two from the point where the team's presence is known.

3) What about the waiver priority list? What criteria should be used to order that?
--The higher you are on the priority list, the quicker you can pick up a team. What we're thinking is use the most current scoring (AKA last year's until we get scores), in reverse order, with people who don't have a score in random order at the top of the list. I'm personally thinking that number of missing teams should also factor in, moving people who are missing teams higher on the list.

4) How to manage the list/claims?
--I'm thinking a separate thread to maintain the list and for claims to be posted.

5) Should players post teams that they will drop?


As this is a new idea for the league, input is welcomed. If you have a different question, bring it up and let the discussion begin.

Chris is me 29-07-2010 15:10

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
1. Any team that is dropped or added to the event after the draft immediately goes to the Waiver list. (This is concise and accounts for trades and drops from the Free list too)

2. What's going to happen more often than not I think is a team will be on waivers, the person up next won't pick them up because they aren't active or whatever, and then they'll fall to the free list. All that would accomplish is pushing the "speed rush" for good teams back a day. I think they should stay on waivers until the entire list has said "pass" or someone has picked them up.

3. Only problem with "lowest first" is that it will be "barely active people first".

Vikesrock 29-07-2010 15:26

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Chris,

The way a waiver wire usually works is that anyone that wants to post a claim for a team during the time they are on waivers may do so. So if, for example, 1114 adds to Midwest and goes on waivers, anyone can post a claim in the 24 hours after their add is announced in the waiver thread.

The person that is highest on the priority list (or in this example, the person highest on the priority list in each tier) that puts in a claim would be awarded the team. Additions of very good teams to an event may result in a cascade of claims moving up the priority list as less active (or less ridiculous ;) ) players check in.

Chris is me 29-07-2010 15:36

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Oh, that's a lot more reasonable then. Thanks for the clarification.

Barry Bonzack 02-08-2010 22:09

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I like the idea, but I would prefer the waiver period be by the end of Sunday, that way everyone has at least the weekend to get on and look. I don't think FF should be a daily maintenance game after drafting ends.

My proposition time frame to claim a team: all teams that go on the waiver list will be decided by 11:59PM Sunday, but no less than 48 hours.

For example: Team 67 joins the St. Louis Regional on a Wednesday, players can make claims up to 11:59 PM Sunday.

Example 2: Team 1625 is added to the Hawaii regional on a Saturday, Claims can be made all the way until the following Sunday (8 days).

EricH 03-08-2010 13:14

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I like that for during the drafting and build season. Cut it down to 48 hours or the lock of that event's drafts, whichever comes first, during competition season as there will be far fewer adds/drops during that time.

Oh, and I'd say that the waiver period starts on discovery that the team has added (i.e., 330 registers for San Diego on Monday, and they are discovered as attending on Saturday as somebody goes on a check, they'll be on waivers until the following Sunday). Does that seem reasonable?

Vikesrock 03-08-2010 13:29

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 970761)
Oh, and I'd say that the waiver period starts on discovery that the team has added (i.e., 330 registers for San Diego on Monday, and they are discovered as attending on Saturday as somebody goes on a check, they'll be on waivers until the following Sunday). Does that seem reasonable?

I agree, we have no way of knowing when a team actually registered, the waiver period should start when they are posted as available in the waiver thread.

I think that Barry's proposal will make it easier on both players and me by having a fixed time that waivers are processed.

EricH 05-08-2010 15:56

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Still to discuss:

1) When should the waiver start for dropped teams? I'm thinking that there are two ways to do this:
a) As soon as the draft ends, any team dropped goes on waivers.
b) After midnight (or some other specified time) after the draft, any team dropped goes on waivers; before then, all teams are free agents.


2) Should teams that will be dropped be posted, as an indication of which teams may/may not be available the next week? (Note that those teams would be "pending" or "probable" drops, not finalized.) I'd go with, for the sake of convenience, requiring the potential drop to be posted-- during the waiver process time on Sunday nights, it'll be relatively easy to go into the threads to do the swap, instead of tracking down the player and getting the team they're dropping.

3) During competition season, teams often show up missing from an event. I was thinking that players with missing teams should move up the list (say, one spot up per missing team in a given event), and not have to drop a team to get a team from waivers for an event they're missing a team in. What do you guys think about that?

Vikesrock 05-08-2010 16:18

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
1) I like option B for the first question. Teams that are dropped the night of the draft are usually randoms that people are switching out and would really crowd the waiver process with teams that are unlikely to be picked up.

2) The proposed drop should definitely be included in the waiver claim post. If the team being dropped is no longer attending they should still be posted with a note that they are not attending to make things easier to process.

3)I'd be fine with moving someone up a spot or two per missing team during competition season.

ATannahill 07-08-2010 17:34

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
On item number 2, i feel that a pm to whoever is running the waivers would be acceptable so that no other player can get an advantage by seeing what will be up the following week.

EricH 08-08-2010 00:31

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 971110)
On item number 2, i feel that a pm to whoever is running the waivers would be acceptable so that no other player can get an advantage by seeing what will be up the following week.

I was thinking that a PM would be an acceptable method of making a claim, if you wanted to. Open post, PM, or any combination of the two, as long as you note a) the team you want, b) the tier/event combination, and c) the team you're dropping if your claim is the highest priority.

ATannahill 26-11-2010 23:51

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Seems we need a waiver now. 501, 319, and 2621 were dropped by hill.

I propose this initial waiver list. The new players are at the top in the order they signed up followed by veterans in reverse order from their ranking last year.

1. Clinton Bolinger
2. Karibou
3. fireyoshi
4. kenavt
5. Basel A
6. James1902
7. Tim Delles
8. Pandamonium
9. Josh Fox
10. Koko Ed
11. Alex Cormier
12. rtfgnow
13. dodar
14. EricH
15. Bethany Mc.
16. Dargel1625
17. Chris is me
18. Vikesrock
19. Barry Bonzack

ATannahill 26-11-2010 23:56

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
For now I am willing to run the waiver but I might give it to Kevin or Eric later. If you are in tier 2 for BAE and want 501, 319, or 2621, pm me or post with:

a. which team you want
b. which team you will drop
c. on a scale from 1-10 how much you want that team, 1 being I will kill for them, 10 being I might bend down to pick them up (so that if more teams are dropped I know which is most important to you. This number does not mean you are more likely to get the team than anyone else)

If these three items are not included your request will not be honored. You have until 11:59 pm Sunday.

ATannahill 27-11-2010 10:25

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
We have another matter to clear up. Monday morning, someone will get one of the teams mentioned above.

What happens to the team they drop? Is that team free for all or does it go on the waiver?

If it free for all, and someone picks it up, will the team they drop go on the waiver?

ATannahill 27-11-2010 10:32

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Tim Delles has dropped 172 and 1721 in BAE tier 2. These teams will be on waiver until December 5th at 11:59 pm EST. PM or post here if you want them. Remember, if you have a bid in for tomorrow it may effect your position on the list.

EricH 27-11-2010 12:55

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 982131)
We have another matter to clear up. Monday morning, someone will get one of the teams mentioned above.

What happens to the team they drop? Is that team free for all or does it go on the waiver?

If it free for all, and someone picks it up, will the team they drop go on the waiver?

Waiver wire, I'd say.

ATannahill 27-11-2010 13:56

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I assume by that you mean put them in the waiver pool for the following week.

EricH 27-11-2010 14:01

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 982171)
I assume by that you mean put them in the waiver pool for the following week.

Yep. Sometimes, a really good team gets dropped. Having them go to the vultures immediately can cause mayhem.

ATannahill 27-11-2010 22:52

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Alex Cormier has dropped from the league. His picks are now up for waiver and they are as follows:

BAE Tier 1: 3074 2621 811
FLR Tier 1: 578 1450 1518
Traverse City Tier 1: 857 904 1596

ATannahill 29-11-2010 08:34

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Vikesrock won the waiver for 501. No other team was requested. 319 2621 are now available. Barry you needed to be in Tier 2 and in front of Vikes if you wanted to win.

1. Clinton Bolinger
2. Karibou
3. fireyoshi
4. kenavt
5. Basel A
6. James1902
7. Tim Delles
8. Pandamonium
9. Josh Fox
10. Koko Ed
11. Alex Cormier
12. rtfgnow
13. dodar
14. EricH
15. Bethany Mc.
16. Dargel1625
17. Chris is me
18. Barry Bonzack
19. Vikesrock

The following teams are available on waiver. There will probably be more tonight when up to three people are kicked.

BAE Tier 1: 3074 2621 811
FLR Tier 1: 578 1450 1518
Traverse City Tier 1: 857 904 1596
BAE Tier 2: 172 1721 166

EricH 29-11-2010 17:24

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Due to more drops, the following teams are now on waivers (no particular order):

Granite State Tier 1: 134, 1721, 151
Granite State Tier 2: 3074, 58, 241
Finger Lakes Tier 1: 73, 211, 250
Finger Lakes Tier 2: 578, 145, 156
New Jersey: 2600, 2199, 1881, 102, 2729, 2191
Kettering Tier 1: 49, 894, 314
Kettering Tier 2: 2604, 703, 3536
Traverse City Tier 1: 2611, 2767, 3458
Traverse City Tier 2: 3357, 3639, 2000

Chris is me 29-11-2010 17:28

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Requesting 102 over 2495 - 8

dodar 29-11-2010 18:09

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I'll take 3357 over 857 - 3

Barry Bonzack 29-11-2010 22:18

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 982104)
For now I am willing to run the waiver but I might give it to Kevin or Eric later. If you are in tier 2 for BAE and want 501, 319, or 2621, pm me or post with:

a. which team you want
b. which team you will drop
c. on a scale from 1-10 how much you want that team, 1 being I will kill for them, 10 being I might bend down to pick them up (so that if more teams are dropped I know which is most important to you. This number does not mean you are more likely to get the team than anyone else)

If these three items are not included your request will not be honored. You have until 11:59 pm Sunday.

Thought everyone would like a reminder on how to request a team on the waiver list.

Is the PM necessary though? can we post A B and C here?

EricH 29-11-2010 22:28

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
You can do it however you want to. I happen to have a waiver claim or 3 in by PM right now.

For reference, C is for the case where you have a claim in on a team and another team comes in. C will determine which claim gets handled first, so choose wisely.

ATannahill 02-12-2010 20:12

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Dargel1625 has been booted and his teams are on waiver.

dodar 02-12-2010 20:21

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
1918 for 857 - 4

ATannahill 02-12-2010 20:31

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Dargel's picks are

WPI 1: 121 1884 2876
Kansas City:1730 1710 938
San Diego: 2029 3134 3255
BAE 2: 133 836 1277
Alamo 2: 3529 2843 3029
New Jersey: 613 869 2458
Kettering 1: 2604 1322 3415
Traverse 2: 1918 1896 2767
FLR 2: 174 73 716

ATannahill 02-12-2010 20:33

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Dodar you did not rate your other request. Until you do so, your request for 1918 is the only legit one. Also I need a secondary team to drop if you get both.

dodar 02-12-2010 21:09

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Actually if you go look at my posts they all meet the requirements

ATannahill 02-12-2010 21:14

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
You are correct. I am guessing I recording the information beofre you edited the post.

ATannahill 02-12-2010 21:21

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I am taking this to mean you want 3357 but if you don't get it go for 1918.

dodar 02-12-2010 21:26

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
yes

Koko Ed 03-12-2010 20:10

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I see alot more teams have signed up for regionals since the drafts have begun.
I suggest that remaining league members go check out what new teams have signed up (alot of rookie) to see if you want to add them to your alliance.

ATannahill 03-12-2010 20:15

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Technically they are not up for waiver until they have been announced here or in all the tiers for the events.

I'll go through tomorrow and get the list of new teams in each event.

ATannahill 04-12-2010 08:18

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Here are the new teams that were added to the events already drafted. They will be on waiver until December 12th.

NH: 213 1247 1289 1749 1824 3323
FLR: 1585 3799 3838 3840
Traverse City: 3767 3771 3772
Kettering: 3770
Alamo: 3582 3778 3808 3820 3834
San Diego: 3749
Lake Superior: 3829 3840

EricH 04-12-2010 11:59

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
And with kenavt dropping out, the following teams enter waiver (to come off not tomorrow, but the Sunday after, due to timing):

Alamo 1: 3529, 3366, 2745
Granite State 1: 836, 58, 1307
Finger Lakes 1: 145, 639, 1405
New Jersey: 2180, 623, 1647
Kettering 1: 703, 3450, 468
Traverse City 1: 3639, 1896, 3688
Kansas City: 2001, 1847, 2357
Superior 2: 2846, 3754, 2175
San Diego: 2090, 2839, 3480
WPI 2: 121, 1884, 3780

Chris is me 04-12-2010 14:43

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
3450 for Kettering over my last pick.

10

Tim Delles 04-12-2010 18:47

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I would like to claim 121 for the WPI 2 league.

Chris is me 04-12-2010 18:59

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
WPI 3780 over 1991, 9

Barry Bonzack 05-12-2010 21:59

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
FLR Tier 1
get 250 to drop 2053

5

Barry Bonzack 05-12-2010 22:07

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
New Jersey
get 102 drop 1302

2

Barry Bonzack 05-12-2010 22:16

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
San Diego

Get 2090 drop 2984
6


Get 2839 drop 2485
4

Barry Bonzack 05-12-2010 22:29

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Kansas City

get 1730 drop 1777
3

Barry Bonzack 05-12-2010 22:38

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
WPI2

get 121 drop 2067
2 (tied with my other 2)


If I do not get 121
Get 3780 drop 2067
9

Barry Bonzack 05-12-2010 22:43

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Traverse 2
get 1918 drop 2145
1

Barry Bonzack 05-12-2010 22:52

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Kettering 2
Get 703 drop 1322
10

Recap by priority and regional
1. 1918 Traverse 2
2. 102 NJ
2. 121 WPI 2
3. 1730 KC
4. 2839 San D
5. 250 FLR
6. 2090 San D
9. 3780 WPI 2
10 703 Kett 2


Thanks, sorry for spamming the waivers thread.

ATannahill 06-12-2010 07:23

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I am going to go through and fix every thread but here are the results in no particular order. Please hold off all waiver requests until I make another post in this thread.

Basel A gets 3357
dodar gets 1918
rtfgnow gets 102, 1710, 174, 2029, 2611, 894
EricH gets 1730, 49, 145
Barry Bonzack gets 250, 703

And the list:

1. Karibou
2. fireyoshi
3. James1902
4. Tim Delles
5. Josh Fox
6. Koko Ed
7. Bethany Mc.
8. Chris is me
9. Vikesrock
10. Basel A
11. dodar
12. Barry Bonzack
13. EricH
14. rtfgnow

ATannahill 06-12-2010 10:34

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I have fixed all drafts within their threads. Please check your picks to make sure I didn't mess up. I would appreciate it if someone will copy over the waiver list for each event into this thread.

Barry Bonzack 06-12-2010 15:52

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 983848)
I am going to go through and fix every thread but here are the results in no particular order. Please hold off all waiver requests until I make another post in this thread.

Basel A gets 3357
dodar gets 1918
rtfgnow gets 102, 1710, 174, 2029, 2611, 894
EricH gets 1730, 49, 145
Barry Bonzack gets 250, 703

And the list:

1. Karibou
2. fireyoshi
3. James1902
4. Tim Delles
5. Josh Fox
6. Koko Ed
7. Bethany Mc.
8. Chris is me
9. Vikesrock
10. Basel A
11. dodar
12. Barry Bonzack
13. EricH
14. rtfgnow



no one gets 121?

If no one else requested 2839 or 2090, does that mean I get them and my name is on the bottom of the list?

EricH 06-12-2010 16:04

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
There are a number of teams--and I believe that 121 is among them--that are not cleared yet due to becoming available after midnight Friday. As such, they will be cleared next week.

ATannahill 06-12-2010 16:33

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 983929)
There are a number of teams--and I believe that 121 is among them--that are not cleared yet due to becoming available after midnight Friday. As such, they will be cleared next week.

The threads should be correct in all aspects. If no one has done it by that time I will compile all the waiver teams and post them here when I get home.

ATannahill 07-12-2010 07:11

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
BAE 1:58 213 836 1247 1289 1307 1749 1824 3323
BAE 2:213 509 1247 1289 1749 1824 3323
Traverse 1:1896, 2000 3639, 3688 3767 3771 3772
Traverse 2:830 857 3767 3771 3772
FLR 1:145, 639, 1405 1585 2053 3799 3838 3840
FLR 2:639 1585 3015 3799 3838 3840
Kettering 1:326 468 703 3450 3535 3770
Kettering 2:1322 3770
New Jersey:219, 623, 1647 2180
Alamo 1:2745 3366, 3529, 3582 3778 3808 3820 3834
Alamo 2:2843 3029 3529 3582 3778 3808 3820 3834
San Diego:1372 2090 2839 3480 3749
Kansas City:1802 1847 2001 2164 2357
WPI 1:-
WPI 2:121 1884 3780
Lake Superior 1:2840 3829
Lake Superior 2:2175 2846 3754 3829 3840

ATannahill 08-12-2010 15:34

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 984080)
BAE 1:58 213 836 1247 1289 1307 1749 1824 3323 3467
BAE 2:213 509 1247 1289 1749 1824 3323 3467
Traverse 1:1896, 2000 3639, 3688 3767 3771 3772
Traverse 2:830 857 3767 3771 3772
FLR 1:145, 639, 1405 1585 2053 3799 3838 3842
FLR 2:639 1585 3015 3799 3838 3842
Kettering 1:326 468 703 3450 3535 3770
Kettering 2:1322 3770
New Jersey:219, 623, 1647 2180
Alamo 1:2745 3366, 3529, 3582 3583 3778 3808 3820 3834
Alamo 2:2843 3029 3529 3582 3583 3778 3808 3820 3834
San Diego:1372 2090 2839 3480 3749 3894
Kansas City:1802 1847 2001 2164 2357
WPI 1:-
WPI 2:121 1884 3780
Lake Superior 1:2840 3829 3846
Lake Superior 2:2175 2846 3754 3829 3840 3846

Florida:3410 3850

Teams in bold are newly added.

2840 dropped FLR but were on the waiver list.
3134 dropped San Diego.

EricH 08-12-2010 15:38

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Nobody had either 2840 or 3134, so nobody moves up the waiver list due to missing teams yet.

Vikesrock 09-12-2010 22:41

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
The two Michigan district events have a number of new teams added. I did not check any other events for new teams.

BAE 1:58 213 836 1247 1289 1307 1749 1824 3323 3467
BAE 2:213 509 1247 1289 1749 1824 3323 3467
Traverse 1:66 835 1076 1896 2000 2959 3639 3688 3767 3771 3772
Traverse 2:66 830 835 857 1076 2959 3767 3771 3772
FLR 1:145, 639, 1405 1585 2053 3799 3838 3842
FLR 2:639 1585 3015 3799 3838 3842
Kettering 1: 1 51 326 468 470 573 703 1701 3322 3398 3415 3450 3535 3770
Kettering 2:1 51 470 573 1322 1701 3322 3398 3415 3770
New Jersey:219, 623, 1647 2180
Alamo 1:2745 3366, 3529, 3582 3583 3778 3808 3820 3834
Alamo 2:2843 3029 3529 3582 3583 3778 3808 3820 3834
San Diego:1372 2090 2839 3480 3749 3894
Kansas City:1802 1847 2001 2164 2357
WPI 1:-
WPI 2:121 1884 3780
Lake Superior 1:2840 3829 3846
Lake Superior 2:2175 2846 3754 3829 3840 3846
Florida:3410 3850

Karibou 09-12-2010 23:51

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Kettering 2
573 for 314
3

Traverse City 2
66 for 1596
1

(sorry if I'm doing something wrong - I've been trying to follow the waiver discussion/process, but it's a struggle)

Chris is me 10-12-2010 00:22

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
At this point because of all the Michigan shuffling I'm honestly in favor of redrafting.

Basel A 10-12-2010 00:25

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 984681)
At this point because of all the Michigan shuffling I'm honestly in favor of redrafting.

I had my concerns about drafting so early in the year. I can't imagine the waiver process is going to become any less hectic, with teams still being added to lists. At this point there may not be a better solution than just going on with it, but it should probably be taken into consideration for following years.

EricH 10-12-2010 00:26

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
So far, we've only done 2 MI events. The rest should have full team lists, sans the odd late-registering rookie.

Chris is me 10-12-2010 00:41

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 984683)
So far, we've only done 2 MI events. The rest should have full team lists, sans the odd late-registering rookie.

So redrafting wouldn't be so bad huh :P

ATannahill 10-12-2010 05:16

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I think a redraft is in order.

EricH 10-12-2010 11:02

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
That, plus http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=183


Redraft Kettering/Traverse, and draft the new event once it shows up on FIRST.

ATannahill 10-12-2010 14:59

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 984712)
That, plus http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...&postcount=183


Redraft Kettering/Traverse, and draft the new event once it shows up on FIRST.

Redrafts should be an expected possibility if we start drafts before the closing date for registration.

EricH 10-12-2010 15:03

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 984733)
Redrafts should be an expected possibility if we start drafts before the closing date for registration.

Normally it's not this bad, though. I think it's because MI shuffles the teams later, so this happens. Scheduling note for next year: MI goes after mid-December...

Chris is me 10-12-2010 15:12

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 984738)
Normally it's not this bad, though. I think it's because MI shuffles the teams later, so this happens. Scheduling note for next year: MI goes after mid-December...

This is also nice because MI districts have deeper fields (and smaller capacities) than other regionals, so putting them at the end makes the usual early-draft droppers a non-factor.

Vikesrock 11-12-2010 14:59

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
If Traverse and Kettering are being redrafted I believe it would be appropriate to adjust the list as follows:

1. Karibou
2. fireyoshi
3. Basel A
4. James1902
5. Tim Delles
6. Josh Fox
7. Koko Ed
8. dodar
9. Bethany Mc.
10. Chris is me
11. Vikesrock
12. Barry Bonzack
13. EricH
14. rtfgnow

ATannahill 11-12-2010 15:13

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Thank you Kevin. I would agree.

Vikesrock 12-12-2010 15:49

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I just noticed both Tim and Barry posted requests for 121 in WPI 2. Both are in WPI 1, where 121 was on waivers at the time of the posts and came off last Sunday. Tim had/has the higher priority so I have sent him a PM asking which team he would like to drop to process the claim.

ATannahill 12-12-2010 15:53

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Whoops, didn't check for that. From now on, please include the draft effected when requesting waviers.

Vikesrock 12-12-2010 15:56

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 985108)
Whoops, didn't check for that. From now on, please include the draft effected when requesting waviers.

They both did, they just both posted the wrong tier. It got even weirder for you because 121 was on waiver in both tiers, coming off last week in WPI 1 and this week in WPI 2.

Koko Ed 12-12-2010 20:06

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Request from BAE Tier 1
Team 20 for 69

2

Chris is me 12-12-2010 20:07

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
1547 in NJ (over last pick, 4)

Chris is me 12-12-2010 20:14

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
525 GKC (over last pick, 10)

Chris is me 12-12-2010 20:15

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
3499 over 1991, WPI, 9

Tim Delles 12-12-2010 20:18

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Hey,

My team was for 3205 for 121 (on waiver)... sorry i thought I had posted that. for the WPI tier 2 ff regional.

ATannahill 12-12-2010 20:31

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
With the drop of fireyoshi, these teams are now on waivers until the 19th.

BAE 1: 20 241 176
FLR 1: 174 1551 3173
New Jersey: 1547 3757 1382
Alamo 2:148 3478 3417
San Diego: 1540 3476 3021
Kansas City: 525 662 937
WPI 2: 3499 1735 3044
Lake Superior 2: 2512 2518 3054
Florida: 3622 2556 1027
Wisconsin: 537 81 2830
Pittsburgh 1:291 3504 1743
New York: 870 1796 1811
Isreal: 2217 2672 3388
Arizona: 1212 1828 3577
Sacramento 1: 2551 3495 2073
Chesapeake: 316 433 2912
Boilermaker 2: 447 1760 3814

Please remember to include
a. team wanted,
b. team dropping,
c. rank 1-10, AND
d. draft and tier

Basel A 12-12-2010 20:36

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Alamo 2
Want 148
Drop 1429
1

Vikesrock 12-12-2010 20:36

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Also from processing the errant 121 claims from last week:

WPI Tier 1 - 3205

And the current priority list:

1. Karibou
2.. Basel A
3. James1902
4. Josh Fox
5. Koko Ed
6. dodar
7. Bethany Mc.
8. Chris is me
9. Vikesrock
10. Tim Delles
11. Barry Bonzack
12. EricH
13. rtfgnow

Chris is me 12-12-2010 21:07

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Sacramento 1 - 841 for 3495 (7)

Barry Bonzack 13-12-2010 00:50

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 985180)
With the drop of fireyoshi, these teams are now on waivers until the 19th.


Chesapeake: 316 433 2912


Please remember to include
a. team wanted,
b. team dropping,
c. rank 1-10, AND
d. draft and tier

433 isn't registered for Chesapeake. Do you mean 422?




Here are my waivers request this week, sorted by priority

Alamo 2
Get 148 Drop 3725

San D
Get 1540 Drop 2984

Kansas City
Get 525 Drop 1785

New York
Get 870 drop 369

Wisconsin
Get 537 drop 2704

Kansas City
Get 662 Drop 1772

San D
Get 2839 Drop 2485

Lake Sup
Get 2512 drop 3740

Pittsburgh
get 291 drop 2051

Israel
Get 2672 drop 3766

EricH 13-12-2010 00:53

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 985222)
433 isn't registered for Chesapeake. Do you mean 422?

Yep, I'm pretty sure he does.

ATannahill 13-12-2010 05:29

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Results:

Barry Bonzack gets 2839
EricH gets 121 3366 2780
rtfgnow gets 2090 3410

1. Karibou
2.. Basel A
3. James1902
4. Josh Fox
5. Koko Ed
6. dodar
7. Bethany Mc.
8. Chris is me
9. Vikesrock
10. Tim Delles
11. Barry Bonzack
12. rtfgnow
13. EricH

ATannahill 13-12-2010 05:57

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
BAE 1: 20 241 176
FLR 1: 174 1551 3173
New Jersey: 1547 3757 1382
Alamo 1:3305
Alamo 2:148 3478 3417
San Diego: 1540 2029 2485 3476 3021
Kansas City: 525 662 937
WPI 2:467 1735 3044 3280 3499
Lake Superior 2: 2512 2518 3054
Florida:21 3622 2556 1027
Wisconsin: 537 81 2830
Pittsburgh 1:291 3504 1743
New York: 870 1796 1811
Isreal: 2217 2672 3388
Arizona: 1212 1828 3577
Sacramento 1: 2551 3495 2073
Chesapeake: 316 433 2912
Boilermaker 2: 447 1760 3814

Updated. All threads are up to date.

ATannahill 13-12-2010 08:40

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
I reiterate, post the draft and tier.

ATannahill 13-12-2010 08:46

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Bonzack (Post 985222)
Lake Sup
Get 2512 drop 3740


This request is invalid because you are in the wrong tier.

ATannahill 13-12-2010 09:10

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 985190)
Sacramento 1 - 841 for 3495 (7)

Neither of those teams are on waivers.

Chris is me 13-12-2010 12:54

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
uh

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtfgnow
Sacramento 1: 2551 3495 2073

pretty sure that means 3495 is on waivers no

it also says they're on waivers in the thread...

ATannahill 13-12-2010 18:00

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 985309)
uh



pretty sure that means 3495 is on waivers no

it also says they're on waivers in the thread...

You sir, were correct.

dodar 14-12-2010 19:51

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
968 6 for my 3rd pick in SD

Vikesrock 14-12-2010 19:57

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Alex, I have some free time so I'm going to go ahead and track down all of James1902's tiers and teams and update those threads, then post a full updated list of teams on waivers here.

ATannahill 14-12-2010 20:00

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Thank you, Tuesdays and Thursdays are wild on me.

Basel A 14-12-2010 20:20

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
San Diego
Want 968
Drop 1572
6

Basel A 14-12-2010 20:22

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
FLR 1
Want 340
Drop 229
7

Chris is me 14-12-2010 20:24

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
SD 968 for 3470, 9

dodar 14-12-2010 20:43

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
1114 1 for my 3rd pick

Vikesrock 14-12-2010 20:50

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Here is an updated list of teams on waivers until 12/19.

There are a lot of teams on waivers this week and many players will have a whole bunch of waiver requests, if you want to make sure that all of them get in and in the order you like, I would recommend compiling them all into one list in the order you would want them processed. This is not required (unless Alex decides it is), but it is a good way to make sure all your requests end up in the order you wanted.

BAE 1: 133 172 176 241 319
FLR 1: 174 340 1126 1551 3157 3173
New Jersey: 486 1382 1547 2265 2607 3757
Alamo 1:922 1642 3305 3631
Alamo 2:148 3478 3417
San Diego: 599 968 1540 2029 2485 3021 3476 3477
Kansas City: 525 662 937 1098 1706 1827
WPI 1: 228 1687 3125 3205
WPI 2:467 1735 3044 3280 3499
Lake Superior 1: 2470 2512 2518
Lake Superior 2: 2512 2518 3054
Florida:21 665 1027 2556 3556 3622 3790
Wisconsin: Wisconsin: 81 537 868 2830 3362 3418
Pittsburgh 1:291 3504 1743
Pittsburgh 2: 771 1114 2051
New York:870 1230 1257 1796 1811 2265
Israel: 1577 1942 1943 2217 2672 3388
Arizona: 60 1212 1798 1828 2657 3577
Sacramento 1: 2551 3495 2073
Sacramento 2: 2085 2204 2551
Chesapeake: 316 422 686 1111 1195 2912
Boilermaker 2: 447 1555 1741 1760 2040 3814
Peachtree: 442 1795 1999
Traverse 1: 2145 2586 3458

Basel A 14-12-2010 20:58

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
In Israel* (not Isreal... but w/e), I believe you mean 1943? I knew there were a lot of rookies teams this year, but..

Vikesrock 14-12-2010 21:06

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Basel A (Post 985656)
In Israel* (not Isreal... but w/e), I believe you mean 1943? I knew there were a lot of rookies teams this year, but..

Haha, yes thank you, fixed.

EricH 14-12-2010 21:36

Re: [FF]: Season Long Waiver Discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Vikesrock (Post 985652)
There are a lot of teams on waivers this week and many players will have a whole bunch of waiver requests, if you want to make sure that all of them get in and in the order you like, I would recommend compiling them all into one list in the order you would want them processed. This is not required (unless Alex decides it is), but it is a good way to make sure all your requests end up in the order you wanted.

I recommend that, too. Then you can just update the list. I've also added some special instructions to particular teams/ trades, and a list makes it much easier to do that. (BTW, Alex, if you don't understand the requests, let me know and I'll try to explain better.) In order may not be fully required, but it's highly recommended.

I also send in via PM so that nobody other than Alex and myself knows which (or how many) dark horses I'm trying to claim this time around, what order they're in, and which halfway decent teams someone else might want.


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