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Aren_Hill 25-08-2010 22:18

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 972524)
1/32" polycarb could be riveted over the holes to prevent debris from cutting the belts. The obvious tradeoff is increased time to repair.

Velcro! or the preferred 3M dual lock

JamesCH95 26-08-2010 11:36

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
Looks great, very well put-together!

Just a thought about the belt-wear testing: you'll probably want full-grip wheels to test how quickly the belts wear out, otherwise you won't really be putting the belts under full load.

RookieWookiez 26-08-2010 14:44

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
Are you using 4 or 6 inch wheels?

Carrington 26-08-2010 15:37

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
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Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 972547)
Looks great, very well put-together!

Just a thought about the belt-wear testing: you'll probably want full-grip wheels to test how quickly the belts wear out, otherwise you won't really be putting the belts under full load.

We are using SBR rough top on the wheels.

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Originally Posted by RookieWookiez (Post 972559)
Are you using 4 or 6 inch wheels?

They are 4 1/2 inch wheels.

JamesCH95 26-08-2010 15:51

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
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Originally Posted by TheLoneAsian (Post 972560)
We are using SBR rough top on the wheels.

Ah, very good, though there isn't any tread in the pictures.

Carrington 26-08-2010 16:02

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
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Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 972561)
Ah, very good, though there isn't any tread in the pictures.

Yeah we just put the tread on the wheels yesterday.

RookieWookiez 26-08-2010 16:16

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
[quote=TheLoneAsian;972560)

They are 4 1/2 inch wheels.[/QUOTE]

Ok that's an odd size, why not use bigger wheels where u will get more speed out of ur wheels. Do u no how much the wheels weight?

JesseK 26-08-2010 16:27

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
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Originally Posted by RookieWookiez (Post 972563)
Ok that's an odd size, why not use bigger wheels where u will get more speed out of ur wheels.

Speed & Torque are a tradeoff in electric motors. 4 1/2" wheels may be appropriate for 1625's general drive train speed/torque targets, and easy adjustments can be made by changing the pullies in the gearbox.

JamesCH95 26-08-2010 16:35

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieWookiez (Post 972563)
Ok that's an odd size, why not use bigger wheels where u will get more speed out of ur wheels. Do u no how much the wheels weight?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 972564)
Speed & Torque are a tradeoff in electric motors. 4 1/2" wheels may be appropriate for 1625's general drive train speed/torque targets, and easy adjustments can be made by changing the pullies in the gearbox.

Also, smaller wheels let the wheels reach a higher speed with a smaller gear ratio, which is (in theory) more efficient.

Theory is a nice place, I'd like to go there one day.

Chris is me 26-08-2010 16:51

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
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Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 972565)
Also, smaller wheels let the wheels reach a higher speed with a smaller gear ratio, which is (in theory) more efficient.

Theory is a nice place, I'd like to go there one day.

More importantly, smaller wheels means you spend less weight on wheels AND gears, since you have less of a reduction. Luckily weight isn't that theoretical. :)

Carrington 26-08-2010 17:04

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RookieWookiez (Post 972563)
Ok that's an odd size, why not use bigger wheels where u will get more speed out of ur wheels. Do u no how much the wheels weight?

Our wheels weigh approximately 3/8 of a pound, but they could probably be lighter. We used these wheels because they were easy for us to make and cost effective. If we built this drivetrain in an actual build season we would probably use even smaller wheels made out of aluminum.

NotSoSiniSter 26-08-2010 22:25

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
Great Design :D We've been thinking about doing some gear shifting too. Having the extra power would be great :D

Hopefully, next years field wont have a terrain element that cant be avoided. :/ Clearance is always annoying.

sdcantrell56 27-08-2010 08:10

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
Absolutely beautiful design and I love the idea of keeping the belts internal. We used belts the past season and they are ridiculously robust as long as you make sure they're tensioned correctly.

My question is did you broach the plastic wheels for direct drive or is there a hub in them?

thefro526 27-08-2010 13:25

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 972567)
More importantly, smaller wheels means you spend less weight on wheels AND gears, since you have less of a reduction. Luckily weight isn't that theoretical. :)

Not to mention that small wheels require less material, less tread to tread them, and often less machining time, so they're less expensive to make. (Cost isn't theoretical either :P)

Oh, and they look cool.

EricVanWyk 27-08-2010 13:39

Re: Winnovation Midwest Coast Drive
 
That looks really pretty, but I'm a total newb when it comes to belt drives.

Can you explain it to me in a way that will allow me to teach it to a team later?

Specifically:
Why belt vs chain?
How do you tension it?
Any quick rules-of-thumb I should know about?

Or better yet, how do I tell if a belt system is good? Often, knowing if the result is good is almost as useful as knowing how to get a good result. {P=NP?}


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