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Gary Dillard 07-12-2010 16:09
Re: Registration 2011
 
Received this yesterday

Quote:
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:20 PM
To: frcteams
Cc: LJ Robinson
Subject: FIRST Smoky Mountain regional questions
This email is being sent to all teams registered for the Smoky Mountain regional who are also registered for another event.
We have 2 late registering local rookies who cannot get into the event because it is full.
We have no more room in the facility to increase the number of teams.
So, I am asking all of you:
Firstly, are any of you not able to attend this regional after all and are planning to cancel? If so, could you please respond right away and let us know.
Secondly, would any of you be prepared to go to another regional instead of Smoky Mountain? We have room in a number of regionals, North Carolina, Palmetto, Florida, Bayou.

If we cannot get a positive response to either of these questions, these 2 rookies will not be able to compete this year, so I appeal for your help.

Have a great season,
Ian McEwan
FIRST Vice President Regional Operations.
We're considering it, since Peachtree showed 1 opening this morning we could go there; however that is the same week as spring break.

ATannahill 07-12-2010 16:21
Re: Registration 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary Dillard (Post 984143)
Received this yesterday



We're considering it, since Peachtree showed 1 opening this morning we could go there; however that is the same week as spring break.
Can they not fit two more teams into the event?

EricH 07-12-2010 16:27
Re: Registration 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 984146)
Can they not fit two more teams into the event?
The message says there is "no more room in the facility to increase the number of teams." That means that they're probably already running 8' by 8' pits (or maybe 8' by 10' pits) to accommodate everybody, and barely have enough room for the field/storage/walkways. So, they're asking if anybody doing the event as a second event will either switch events or drop out, so that the rookies can compete.

I've got a hunch that there will be room for the rookies before terribly long, knowing FRC teams' tendency for helping other teams to compete and all.

Mark McLeod 07-12-2010 16:28
Re: Registration 2011
 
It looks like one team dropped out of Smokey Mtn in the last day, so they'll need at least one more.
P.S.
Team 461 was the generous team that gave up their slot in TN for one of the shutout rookie teams.

As much as the event organizers strive to fit in everyone who want's to come, the time arrives when one more would spill out the door.
SBPLI has that situation this year. More teams wanted to come than we could rearrange the furniture to fit. In past year's the venue has been able to come up with creative ways to reorient the field, reduce or eliminate the practice area, relocate the A/V folks, move as much excess as possible out into the hallways. Sounds like TN would need to setup a tent outside.

DonRotolo 07-12-2010 18:25
Re: Registration 2011
 
Seem like it's time for us to build a 4-dimensional room, just for this eventuality. Or are 5 dimensions needed?

Welcome back Mark, we missed you.

Mark McLeod 08-12-2010 11:33
Re: Registration 2011
 
Here's a message of interest pertaining to the waitlist for Championship.

Quote:
Greetings Championship Wait List Team:

Now that registration has closed, we want to touch base with you and share the following to help you understand the 2011 FRC Championship wait list process:
  • Championship spot availability is based on how many merit-based qualifying teams choose to attend or decline to attend the event. You can view the merit based qualifying criteria at http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...ip+eligibility Please note, teams that decline their qualifying spot may not offer the spot to another team; declined spots are offered to wait list teams by FIRST Headquarters;
  • Some of the merit-based qualifying teams may have already registered for the Championship during open registration. This will open additional spots to wait list teams;
  • We will start making offers to wait list teams once the events are underway, around the 3rd week of competition, given there are spots to offer. However, some spots may open up after the payment deadline date (1/28/11) as some registered teams may drop the Championship due to funding issues. In this event, we will start making offers to wait list teams in early February.
  • Teams are normally moved off the wait list on a first come first served basis (i.e., date registered on the wait list.) However, and although unlikely, FIRST reserves the right to move a team into the event at its discretion;
  • We do not publish the wait list. As with the regionals, FIRST does not want any team making travel arrangements based on where they are on the wait list. There is no guarantee even the first team on the list will get a spot;
  • You may send payment for us to “hold” for you; however, this does NOT guarantee your team a spot in the Championship nor give your team preference for being moved off the wait list. In the event your team is offered a spot and you accept, we will apply the monies to your account. If your team does not get a spot your payment will be returned.
Please note all Championship wait list decisions are made at FIRST headquarters. Questions should be directed to frcteams@usfirst.org, Subject Line: Championship Wait List.

We wish each of you the best of luck this season.

Warm Regards,

FRC Teams.

Go Teams!

Mark McLeod 08-12-2010 12:06
Re: Registration 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 984096)
Historically speaking: when will teams be moved off of regional wait-list now that registration is closed and the first payment deadline has passed?
Last year many Regionals had cleared their waitlists by December 5, a few days after the deadline. Everyone (half) cleared by December 8.
Michigan was a conspicuous exception, because they run to a different registration schedule. Last year Michigan finally cleared their waitlists over the year-end holidays, before Kickoff.
And of course the Championship waitlist is much later and was handled unusually last year.

This year we have more Regionals delaying their waitlists.
Presumably, due to what appears to be a very late rookie registration drive.
The most obvious are the Texas Regionals, frozen to make sure late registering Texas teams get preference. As Glenn informed us, they are scheduled to clear December 15 this year.

If you have a particular event in mind I can give you a time chart of its' 2010 registration tally.

IndySam 08-12-2010 13:38
Re: Registration 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 984344)
Last year many Regionals had cleared their waitlists by December 5, a few days after the deadline. Everyone (half) cleared by December 8.
Michigan was a conspicuous exception, because they run to a different registration schedule. Last year Michigan finally cleared their waitlists over the year-end holidays, before Kickoff.
And of course the Championship waitlist is much later and was handled unusually last year.

This year we have more Regionals delaying their waitlists.
Presumably, due to what appears to be a very late rookie registration drive.
The most obvious are the Texas Regionals, frozen to make sure late registering Texas teams get preference. As Glenn informed us, they are scheduled to clear December 15 this year.

If you have a particular event in mind I can give you a time chart of its' 2010 registration tally.
Boilermaker
Thanks Mark
Welcome back :)

TD78 08-12-2010 13:45
Re: Registration 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 984344)
Last year many Regionals had cleared their waitlists by December 5, a few days after the deadline. Everyone (half) cleared by December 8.
Michigan was a conspicuous exception, because they run to a different registration schedule. Last year Michigan finally cleared their waitlists over the year-end holidays, before Kickoff.
And of course the Championship waitlist is much later and was handled unusually last year.

This year we have more Regionals delaying their waitlists.
Presumably, due to what appears to be a very late rookie registration drive.
The most obvious are the Texas Regionals, frozen to make sure late registering Texas teams get preference. As Glenn informed us, they are scheduled to clear December 15 this year.

If you have a particular event in mind I can give you a time chart of its' 2010 registration tally.
looking for Boston and Connecticut...hoping one or the other is soon!
thanks.

Mark McLeod 08-12-2010 14:03
Re: Registration 2011
 
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I just got notified that WPI has accepted us from the waitlist, so they've started the clearing process.

Last year Regionals also did a half pass at the waitlists just prior to 2nd event registration opened up. That didn't happen this year.
Clearing the waitists may take place over several days, because they first give the waitlisted team 24 hours to accept before moving on to another team on the list.

Here are last year's registration charts for:
  • Boilermaker (cleared mostly on Dec 5 and Dec 8)
  • Boston (mostly cleared by Dec. 12)
  • Connecticut (final clearing Dec. 8)

ebarker 08-12-2010 14:29
Re: Registration 2011
 
Smokey Mountain was filled up with no hidden reserves.

This morning 1311 - Kell Robotics - withdrew from the Smokey Mountain Regional. 1311 is moving to the Palmetto which is the previous week. 1311 is going back to back - Peachtree then Palmetto....

FYI - as of this writing the empty slot at the Peachtree is now filled.

However - if you want to move from the Smokey Mountain to the Peachtree it is a very do-able thing. There is a little wiggle room there.

Ed

JohnBoucher 08-12-2010 14:43
Re: Registration 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 984148)
Sounds like TN would need to setup a tent outside.
When Connecticut was at the Meadows venue, they had a large tent in the snow and rain for the overflow teams.

Chris is me 08-12-2010 14:43
Re: Registration 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 984362)
I just got notified that WPI has accepted us from the waitlist, so they've started the clearing process.
Glad to hear it, but I don't see you guys on the Event page yet. Does that take awhile to update?

Mark McLeod 08-12-2010 19:32
Re: Registration 2011
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 984369)
Glad to hear it, but I don't see you guys on the Event page yet. Does that take awhile to update?
Don't know how long it takes to update.
Maybe they spent the afternoon sending out a bunch of invitations and will go through the responses tomorrow.

Mark McLeod 09-12-2010 12:02
Re: Registration 2011
 
One of the Smoky Mtn rookies (3856) has taken 461's slot.

1311 is still listed even though they've agreed to release their spot, and I now know of several teams including my own that have received invitations to move off other event waitlists, but have yet to appear on the respective event team lists. So there's a backlog or lag at FIRST HQ on moving teams on and off the event lists.

3 teams dropped out and 8 added in within the past few hours.


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