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Figured I'd kick off the topic. So who's returning to NJ? What do you expect? Any rookies or first time NJers coming?

I think Its going to be a blast as always!

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Well Brandon, like I stated in our PM's we will be returning to NJ after our two year hiatus. I am SO excited that we are too since the playing field is very even for everyone. This provides teams that are going to be in other regionals an introduction to the game and how to play it. I know this will be very important when we go to Philly as well. I truly cannot wait until the regional though. I know for a fact that it will be very competitive and fun as well.

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1676 is looking forward to it!

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Teams I personally enjoy seeing every year:

1676 - I just like you guys. First thing I look for at NJ is usually your trailer in the parking lot :P
2016 - Awesome bot every year
224 - Made our last '09 match the match I remember most to this day.
816 - Lovin' that fro. Had fun helping you guys out for that entire half second this year, just to see you beat us later. haha.
303 - Thanks to them, we got our first trip into the eliminations.
1089 - All around huge help.
1923 - Helped us a ton in '09

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Just a quick piece of info for everyone, we are registered for NJ as of yesterday. :cool:

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Personally, I miss the NJ atmosphere. Our team decided not to go last year, but I loved the intensity, the venue, and the people! Although there are always the set up problems, those are at every regional. If it were up to me, NJ would be our first pick.

Im sure a few of us will be visiting, as always, to say a brief hello to everyone.

Good luck to every team attending!!!! :D

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816 will be back in Jersey once again. Hopefully we'll be able to improve upon our Finalist Performance from last year.

There is more to our team than my hair, you know. :P

And let me know if there's anything we can do to pay back the help you gave us last year. You're more than welcome to come practice with us towards the end of Build Season.

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I really needed to quote that one Dustin.

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SINCE WHEN!?!?!

Nah just kidding. You guys are awesome though.

Eeek, that numbers supposed to be 1228 not 224. oopsies!

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Waldo's coming back, if you can find us!

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I've never been to this regional before.
Last year was my 1st and I'm looking forward to this the new year and new challenges.
I guarantee I will be huddles in a corner somewhere.

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Yay Waldo! It'll be great seeing all you folks again - last time was Toronto and Chairman's....

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YAY! You guys are legendary on our team haha. We miss you!

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NJ's initial capacity has been reached and registering teams are now going directly onto the wait list.

56 teams are showing with another ~10 potential openings on the wait list.

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So glad to see things filling up with haste again...last year was slow everywhere. Should I even think for new controllers?

Just volunteered as Field Supervisor today, hopefully I get it and I can see you all!

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2016 will be there! :D

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My team and I appreciate the complement. I enjoy seeing your team at Trenton also. :)

On another note, 6 MORE DAYS TILL KICK OFF! YAYAYAY!

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Team 422 isn't going to the New Jersey Regional this year. The schedule and distance are too conflicting. I know I will miss being in Trenton this year to watch probably the best tournament of all of the regionals because of its Week 1 slot and very skilled and large-scale veteran teams, and the historically "upstart" rookies that really know how to fly out of the gate, like Overdrive.

I'll definitely be missing 1676! I love your team, and your website! I hope to see some people from the NJ regional either in Baltimore of Richmond, VA!

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thanks for the shout-out :D we cant wait until jersey either! really looking forward to showing off our machine and maybe, just maybe walking away with a win :) cant wait to see y'all out there!

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As far as I know we will have a VERY packed house this year. Several teams from NJ won't be able to make it due to standardized testing that week, but that being said I argue that we will be THE most diverse regional out there.

We have

38 Teams from New Jersey
8 Teams from New York
8 Teams from Pennsylvania
1 Team from Virginia
1 Team from Maryland
1 Team from California
1 Team from Connecticut
1 Team from Canada
1 Team from Turkey
2 Teams from Brazil.

This should be a great event! And my advise posting should be coming in the next few weeks! See you all then!

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You'll be announcing again, I hope?

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Yup I'll be there!

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Brandon, Does this question really need to be asked?

GEORGE IS LIKE THE VOICE OF NEW JERSEY. (And Philly).

Oh, and sometimes he's the German-ish voice of NJ. ;)

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Hey George,

If you could do us a huge favor and quote Llamas with Hats, we would personally love that. German George is also acceptable.

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Haha, Llamas with hats is in my repitoire! If you can find the finals matches from last year, you'll find either match 1 or 2 is laden with pop culture references.

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Hey, you never know!

Maybe it'll be a french accent this year..

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3607 is a rookie team going to be their

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I'm looking to get adopted for the weekend of NJ. Anyone want to adopt?

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Sure, we could always use more volunteers ;)

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akash im adopting you. idk if we have extra shirts.. but im sure mr. g will have one for you if you ask nicely ;)

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Haha I think I am spoken for by a certain orange and blue team :rolleyes:

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Excuse Me. :mad:

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We can't lure you back to black & yellow?? :rolleyes:

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Haha I think I shrunk my old Pioneers shirt Don. Might need a new one and take up the offer. :p

Rob I'll just be the foster child and move from team to team on Saturday lol

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I need to convince 612 to come back to New Jersey in 2012, it was such a great event

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<3.

You have to wear an afro wig.

U MAD. :P

I'm sure we can pass Akash around, he's only wanted by 1089, 816, 1647, and 1676. How about each take him for 30 minute intervals?

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Ooooooohhhhh someones popular

:P

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Akash, seems to me that you are getting around ::rtm::

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:o

lol you guys are great. Looking forward to dropping by now.

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we're going to savor our 30 minutes. ok wait that sounds creepy ;)

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Does anyone know if there is a webcast being planned?

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Historically New Jersey is not Webcasted. I believe someone Webcasted it in either 2009 and 2010 but I can't remember who it was.

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If anything, there will be sporadic videos from different teams posted on The Blue Alliance. I believe I am asking our A/V team to film our matches.

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1676 did that. And we applied for permission to do it again this year, but it is entirely dependent upon the FRC gods.

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Team 2265 had a great time in Jersey last year, and we are looking forward to coming back again!

We would especially like to thank Team 75 and 1089 for all of your help during the entirety of the competition! We look forward to seeing you all!

P.S. Keep a lookout for our Scavenger Hunt! :D

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The Scavenger Hunt was so much fun last year, I still have my shirt and wear all the time!

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I really hope that you guys get the green light to webcast. I'm not entirely sure why they would say no.

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Team 1676 is going to have a booth set up within the arena for our "Postcards for Soldiers" drive. We are inviting everyone to stop by and fill out a postcard which will be sent to the men and women serving our country overseas. These postcards will be a reminder to our military of our thanks and appreciation for what they do and will let them know we support them and wish for their safe arrival home.

Please tell your team members to stop by to write a sincere message on a postcard. :)

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223 will be at New Jersey again! (6 DAYS!)

By the way, 1676, that's a great idea. We'll be sure to stop by. :)

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Can anyone share the pit layout diagram? I saw it briefly on paper today and would like to see it again.

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Hm...how legal would a tshirt cannon be?

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GRT (192) is going to be at NJ this year. They've got a long plane ride.

I recommend you wander past their pit, say hi, and take a look at their animation. Or just walk up to anyone with a red mohawk and introduce yourself. They have a great group of people and incredible team initiative.

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To anyone from 2016:

OHHHH BOOOYY do we have a surprise for you.

Hint:
My mom's an optician for one of our sponsors, and said sponsor has a decent amount of offices. ;)

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2199 can't wait to come up and meet everyone! I'm sure it will be a blast.

See you next Thursday :)

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Cool, it will be great to get to know them.

This has all the makings of an amazing regional this year: Four countries, several states, The Fro, teams we've seen and teams we've never seen in NJ, George announcing... what more do we need?

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Here is a list of teams competing in New Jersey, as well as links to any videos/pictures that I found of their robot: http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92870

Can't wait to see all of you in 5 days!

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What time does the regional start on Thursday? FIRST's website here says load-in is at 9:45, however the NYC/NJ FIRST regional website here says its at 7:45.

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The schedule I have (which was emailed to all the mentors) says that the doors will open @ 9:30 only for 3 members per team for setup/unbagging. Doors open for all @ 10:00

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Is anyone able to stream and (maybe after) archive the regional again like last year?

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Here's the published agenda from FIRST for NJ Regional

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedfiles..._NJ_Agenda.pdf

Wednesday, March 2, 2011
6:00PM 5 Team Reps Load-In (Bag and Tag) For Drop Off Only
9:00PM Pits Close

Thursday, March 3, 2011
9:45AM 3 Team Reps to Load-In
10:30AM Pits and Machine Shop Open
10:30AM-2:00PM Registration and inspection
12:00PM-1:00PM Lunch
2:00PM-8:00PM Practice rounds
10:00PM Pits and Machine Shop close

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That ^^ is what I have as well. Much later than years before on Thursday, maybe teams will be able to get some actual sleep that morning!

We're loading in Wednesday evening, just a lot less stressful.

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Thanks to NJ having HSPA testing this coming week, many school districts will not allow teams to travel. (Even though seniors don't take the tests) Since the tests end around noon we are giving teams the chance to get here so they can fulfill everything they need to do on Thursday. The practice rounds will start later and we will have 2 drivers meetings. Thanks to all the volunteers for putting in a long day to help pull this off as seamless as they can make it.


I'll have my annual "reminders" post this week, and I'll see everyone on Thursday!

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Just out of Curiosity, would anyone like me to do predictions for NJ again this year? I'm not sure if LF is still around or not, and I have a bit of fun writing them.

If anyone wants to be considered for Predictions, shoot me a PM with some robot specs or a picture or whatever. I will keep the info in the post as vague as possible.

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I predict that by Saturday night we will have 3(possibly 4) teams with a champion banner, one team with a Chairman's Award trophy, and a bunch of exhausted volunteers.

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I so wish I could be at New Jersey! I will be supporting you all in spirit, with a special cheer in there for Team 1923. There's no way you could find a prouder alumni. Best of luck to everyone!

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I would like to know what you're thinking. :P I always find that reading well thought out predictions is very entertaining.

Cass

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OK, here's my annual "Things to remember about the NJ regional"

1) This is the first year in recent memory where the forecast doesn't call for snow this week. Which is awesome. That being said the weather here is kinda wonky. Combine that with the fact that we are playing in an ice rink, please dress appropriately. It's easier to take off an extra layer if you're hot, than to try to find extra clothes if you're cold.

2) Don't save seats. If you have a group of students then it's understood you want to sit to get together for safety reasons. But if someone comes and wants to sit with you, don't be so quick to shoo them away. If there is ONE person, and you blatantly have more than one seat just let them sit, you might go a long way to spread the good word of what this program is about.

3) Safety first. Remember to wear close toed shoes, and safety goggles. If you don't have safety goggles you won't be allowed into the pits. It's black and white, no goggles no pits. We don't have nearly enough for everyone, so make sure that for everyone that will have access to your pits, you have goggles to go around (that includes parents that are visiting)

4) Please be patient. This year is our first year doing a bag and tag event. So there are bound to be some hiccups. Combine that with the fact that we are a first week event, it's only natural to become hot under the collar. Just take a deep breath and we can all get through this together.

5) Thank a volunteer. We don't get paid, we do this job for the sheer fact that we love FIRST and want to see you kids have a good time. We pull long hours, are standing around all day and barely get time to go to the bathroom sometimes. A thank you and a hand shake go a long way!

That's all I can think of for right now, but I'm sure there are things I forgot. I look forward to seeing everyone on Thursday!

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Amen George!

Just to follow-up on what George said here, please be patient and be sure to have read the "Bag and Tag" document on the FIRST website so you are aware of the procedures the event is following. Do not forget to bring your "Robot Lock-up" form.

Looking forward to seeing that NJ spirit at the Sun National Bank Center! Go Teams!

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No snow this week?(haven't checked weather at all lately). Awesome! First time in a while...I know up here in Northern NJ it was beautiful out today.

One more day! So excited!

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Who else is going Wednesday night for drop off?

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This one bugs me the most. I'm not a confrontational kind of person, but this year I'm thinking of making an exception (and example).

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Heading up to the drop-off in a few with a couple of people from my team. If you see us, be sure to say hi!

...that means you Mr. Knauss

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Just a heads up for anyone attending...

I and a few of my fellow Lockheed Martin co-workers/FRC mentors will be present Friday to exhibit the 2011 FRC "Logomotion" Fifth Gear simulation. Feel free to stop by and play or say hi!

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Could you please elaborate on this one?

I have never understood this. I don't understand why holding a certain amount of seats so a team can sit together is problematic. I know I will get people wanting to debate this with me, but that's not what I'm looking for, I would just like to hear Don's response.

Cass

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Since no one really knows whether or not Looking Forward will be doing predictions this year, I figured I’d so some of my own for New Jersey. Just like predictions I’ve done before, Teams will be broken down into various levels with those who are most likely to seed well being locks.
New Jersey seems to have a pretty good assortment of teams, with some Traveling as far from Brazil to compete with us. We are missing a few Regulars though, 11, 1279, 103 (Second year they skipped NJ) and 2753 (No longer an FRC team :( ) so we’ll have to see if these teams are missed.

Locks:

From everything I’ve gathered thus far, it seems that these 3 teams will make up the top tier in NJ.

25 – They’ve yet to unveil their robot this year, but as posted in another thread, it’s “2007 with a minibot”. For those of you who weren’t around in 2007, 25’s quick and robust robot coupled with good decisions and smart driving made them incredibly difficult to defeat. Assuming 25 fields a Minibot and deployment system that is as effective as their Hostbot, they’ll be just as good as ever.

2016 – The up and coming New Jersey Power House is coming off of a strong season last year and I doubt this year will be any different. Their robot shares a lot of design cues with both their 2010 robot and a certain colorful robot that made it to Einstein in 2007. With some smart driving and a little bit of luck, the Mighty Monkey Wrenches should be in the Finals once again.

816 – Coming off of a relatively good season last year, 816 hopes to finally bring home their first regional banner. They’ve fielded their best robot to date, taking notes from very successful 2007 designs and putting their own spin on it. Just like 25, if they’ve got the Minibot to back up the Hostbot, they should be a formidable opponent on the field.

Tips:

1676 – The Pascack Pi-oneers are coming off of one of those seasons that most of us dream about. In 2010 they came home with not one, but two Regional Champion Banners and were the Curie Division Finalists. Their 2011 Machine looks pretty solid and is 1676 is one of the only Machines that I’ve seen with a working Deployment System and Minibot.

1647 – LRR has a fielded another good machine, but this one might be the best they’ve built since 2007. Assuming that they can hold their ground well enough, and play through some defense, there’s no reason that Lenape won’t be playing late Saturday afternoon.

1218 – Vulcan Robotics has had a lot of Success over the last few years, with a Regional Finals Appearance in 2010 and an Einstein Appearance in 2009. If 1218 is up to their Normal Standard, they’ll be a hard team to beat.

102 – The Gearheads always bring a more than Capable Machine to New Jersey and continue to progress from there. Even though I haven’t seen anything from them this year, If history is anything to go by, expect them to start a little slow on Friday Morning and Pick their game up by the time Alliance Selections Roll around.

1089 – Team Mercury seems to have one upped their robot from last year and have built another capable machine. With a little bit of practice, they have the potential to put up quite a few tubes a match.

1860 – Cephatron looks like they’ll be fielding a more than capable machine again this year. Their Decision to go with a Tank Tread System on such and open field has me a baffled but I’m sure they’ll make it work.

1923 – The MidKnight Inventors have proven time and time again that they can build capable robots along with competing like crazy. I haven’t heard much from them this year, but I expect them to be in their usual form.

2344 – Saunders Droid Factory is back for another NJ Regional and I expect them to be just as competitive as ever.

Wildcards:

192 – GRT is making the trek from California to compete with us. I don’t believe that many people know much about this team or their robot this year, but if past performance is anything to go on they should at least be a player in the Elimination Matches.

1302 – Team Lionheart had one of those dream years in 2007. They won both the NJ and NY regional’s and led a Championship Alliance to only be knocked out by the Division Winners. Since then, they haven’t been able to attain that level of Dominance again, but if they took their notes from 2007 and applied them to this year’s game, I don’t see why they wouldn’t be competitive.

Others:

The remainder of teams in the eliminations will probably come from this list: 41, 75, 223, 293, 522, 834, 869, 1155, 1228, 1547, 2180, 2495, 2590, 2729, and 3059.

Hints:

Like every Week 1 Competition, game play is going to start off slow as teams get into the groove of the game. Penalties are going to be common along with yellow and red cards due to a lack of knowledge of the rules. Don’t be surprised if you see at least one match where more than half of the robots have been carded.

In early matches Defense will probably be non-existent as most teams focus on scoring tubes. As tube manipulators break or don’t work as intended we’ll see those teams gradually shift to defense and feeder roles in most matches. By the time eliminations roll around, the Eventual Regional Champions are going to have to fight through some heavy defense if they want to win.

Mini Bots and their deployment are going to be HUGE game changers throughout the competition. Don’t be surprised if you see many matches where teams won by just putting their minibot up the pole. “Fast” Minibots will probably be in the mid-two second mark with deployment, but most Minibots will have a total ascent time of 4 or more seconds. That being said, don’t be discouraged if you don’t have a “Fast” minibot. Even last place is worth 10 points.

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Been doing this for four years now, and its the first time I've ever seen anyone include us in a list like this. Awesome feeling haha.

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Great review.. and you mostly correct about the "2007 with a minibot" ..

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The stream on mms://sargasso-3.arc.nasa.gov/njregional just died. Any news?

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Lunch break?

Before that, were they airing stuff for practice day today?

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All they had up was the live score/timer at the bottom with a blank video screen. From what I could gather, they weren't playing any matches, practice or not.

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Agenda says practice matches 2-8pm. These Bag and Tag Regional agendas vary a bit from regional to regional.

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From what I heard, state wide standardized testing shifted the times a bit.

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Does anyone know if they are showing matches on the stream? I've had it open for like 20 minutes and all I've seen is the logomotion logo.

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Dinnertime.
Matches are supposed to start again at 6:30...

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2016 is unstoppable.

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They did look pretty amazing. looks like their strategy is gonna be to get the tube from the feeder station instead of having it thrown to them. with such a good acquisition system, i have to wonder why.

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I have to wonder why everyone is throwing tubes willy-nilly and everywhere. All you're doing is making it easy for your opponents to score.

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We'll have to see during a real match, but to me its obvious why a team would do this. It is similar to starving the field.

Teams who look solid:
25
2016
1647
1089
2344


I'm a little disappointed by robot quality at NJ. It's the same teams who are good/not so good. Maybe we need some more mentorship/collaboration going on, Idk.

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2016 is the team to beat. Not only do they have a fast mini bot they hit their mark every time.

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We realized this after our 2nd match and changed our game play. I think being able to pick up from the feeder station will become more important during finals and as robot performance improves.

During the practice matches there were so many tubes on the field during later matches it started to be come annoying when trying to get a certain color tube.

Also, is it just me or are all the NJ tubes over inflated?

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Add 1923 and 1676 to that list.

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We found a problem with our code near the end of the day, and got autonomous working at 9:50 while they were trying to shove us out the door.

The problem that was causing our robot to not move was that we were using the built-in Disabled() function to reset our pistons when we disabled the robot, but since the robot starts off disabled it would attempt to reset the pistons...which never got a chance to be declared. We'd get an error, and lose all comms while the cRIO crashed and reset itself. The next time we enabled the robot, the code would work because everything was declared. This problem has been plaguing us for a long time now, I'm so glad we fixed it. You guys are up for a surprise tomorrow, I think. I have high hopes for my team.

Good luck!
Steve, 1647 software "thing"

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So I walked in this morning with 2 other team members for the setup. We get to our pit and start unpacking things. I tell one to get the power cord out, and I turn around to do something. Then I start to hear a hissing noise. Turn around, and there's the kid watching a thick cloud of fire extinguisher smoke exploding out of our toolbox. After that our tools looked like they went through a nuclear holocaust.

Probably the best thing I'll ever remember from any competition, we laughed about it all day.

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I figured those two, my shortlist was just based on teams I got to watch.

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Sounds like you do know. ;)

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I'm tired. So is our minibot with all the fame it recieved today.

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I could not disagree with you more.

If you have a good ground loader all you are doing is making it easier for you to score. There are 18 tubes per alliance, enough to fill each alliances respective rack. I think it is a waste of time going back and forth across the field when you can have your human player throw the tube to you.

There are 18 tubes, and no rollover between matches. What are you saving them for?

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You're saving your opponents just as much valuable time. Maybe even more.

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I think what Chris is Me is saying and what many of us are observing

1. Many of the human players can not throw across the field accuratly and consistently.
2. Many are not being very smart they are throwing in bunches often and are even throwing when none of their alliance is around
3. In addition to 1 human players have trouble throwing sometimes to even the middle of the field playing right to the other alliance.

I am confussed by all this throw throw throw. I get there is times for it but not like this