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JohnFogarty 09-11-2010 17:00

[FTC]: Autonomous Ideas?
 
So I am puttering around because this year we actually have the robot done 12093718246 years done before it took last year. So I'm wondering What are your teams going to do with your 40 seconds?

team F.T.C 4240 10-11-2010 19:43

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Well what I would do is, first think about all the things you can do to get points in auto mode. Then think of what would be easy to do and that wont require a lot of programing so it has less of a chance of messing up. Lastly make shore you have a low chance of hitting another robot and messing the whole thing up.

Hoped that helped
~Derrick

JesseK 11-11-2010 11:50

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Go over the cliff. The bridges and mountains are a crapshoot.

team F.T.C 4240 11-11-2010 13:53

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@JesseK
What if you are on the face of the cliff? Also if you are on the other side you get 10 points, and that won't take very long to do. So you could try to score some then go to the other side.

JesseK 12-11-2010 10:06

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Originally Posted by team F.T.C 4240 (Post 980498)
@JesseK
What if you are on the face of the cliff?

In my experience of coaching drivers for 4 years, if BotA's team has a reliable autonomous that scores a decent amount of points then BotA's team gets to pick where they put BotA for autonomous purposes. It's held true from qualifying tournaments all the way through to Finals at Champ's.

Otherwise I'd chance traversal via the bridge, but our robot better be the first one to it.

What our robot does on the other side is ... well I don't know what the kids have built so honestly I can't tell you what they're going to do. If I were to build a bot for this game, I'd build one to launch all batons back to the goal-side or launch them all out of the top in one swift motion. Then for teleop, the bot should play good defense. As for the endgame, well, personally I think that's a crapshoot too.

Joachim 12-11-2010 14:13

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1) get the doubler baton out of the center dispenser
2) get a few more regular batons out of a dispenser
3) put the regular batons in a rolling goal (of your alliance color) with the doubler
4) repeat steps 2) and 3) as fast as you can until autonomous ends

Optionally, to make this all a little easier, for step 0.5 you could push a rolling goal to your dispenser side first.

Every regular baton taken from a dispenser and put in a rolling goal during autonomous with the doubler = 14 total points by the end of the game (if your alliance does not dump out the rolling goal during driver controlled, like in the end game).

Every regular baton taken from a dispenser during driver controlled and scored in a rolling goal without the doubler = only 3 points at the end of the game.

JohnFogarty 13-11-2010 02:55

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I just thought i'd throw this out there.
GET THE GOAL ONTO THE DISPENSING SIDE OF THE FIELD.
thatisall. xD my 2 cents

NalaTI 13-11-2010 04:51

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Originally Posted by John_1102 (Post 980689)
I just thought i'd throw this out there.
GET THE GOAL ONTO THE DISPENSING SIDE OF THE FIELD.
thatisall. xD my 2 cents

Be very careful. the refs were very watchful for anything that approached goal possession at the qualifying tournament. If you can push it over without controlling it, great, but...

JohnFogarty 13-11-2010 14:49

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The game manual states that mechanisms that pull, lift and take hold of the rolling goal are what make it possession. If you're just pushing it dare I say off the cliff..in no way can you say that is possession.

normalmutant 13-11-2010 22:04

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Yep - Autonomous scoring - that's where the money is.
Observe:
-The scores are (usually) counted twice in autonomous and teleop.
-The doubler (if scored) doubles the doubled score above.
-2 points for every baton dispensed.
Even just emptying and scoring the middle dispenser with the doubler, without magnetic batons, will get you over a hundred points. Of course, this will get harder as robots develop blocking programs...

JohnFogarty 14-11-2010 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by normalmutant (Post 980752)
Yep - Autonomous scoring - that's where the money is.
Observe:
-The scores are (usually) counted twice in autonomous and teleop.
-The doubler (if scored) doubles the doubled score above.
-2 points for every baton dispensed.
Even just emptying and scoring the middle dispenser with the doubler, without magnetic batons, will get you over a hundred points. Of course, this will get harder as robots develop blocking programs...

You mean to tell me you can score more than one set of 5 in autonomous? besides the one you could start off with?

BACONDUDE1902 15-11-2010 08:31

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There is a team in FL that can score 40 points in autonomous like nothing.

JohnFogarty 15-11-2010 16:01

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Hmm...I'm gonna start working on auto soon since our robot is almost finished and the way it's designed we could do the same...I have to wait til February for South Carolina's state competition again..we have to do qualifiers this year..maybe because of the random 7 or 8 teams that got to world last year from SC xD

normalmutant 15-11-2010 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John_1102 (Post 980810)
You mean to tell me you can score more than one set of 5 in autonomous? besides the one you could start off with?

Right. Well, you'd need to take the goal with you. But most teams didn't design their robots for that.

team F.T.C 4240 19-11-2010 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BACONDUDE1902 (Post 980848)
There is a team in FL that can score 40 points in autonomous like nothing.

Well you can score 55 points in auto mode if you score your 5 into the rolling goal (15 in auto mode) then go to the other side (10) then despence all 15 batons onto the floor [(30)you should save the doubler if you go for that despencer] and if you can somehow balance on the bridge then that would make it 60 points in auto mode.

(I tried to say an auto mode that is doable.)
thanks


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