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JamesCH95 12-11-2010 12:02

Re: Welding Advice
 
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Originally Posted by Dick Linn (Post 980602)
The Diversion 180 model does include a foot pedal.

I see that from Miller it is not included, but from CyberWeld it is. Weird.

Scott L. 12-11-2010 16:50

Re: Welding Advice
 
You must use a stainless steel brush to clean aluminum, any carbon steel brush will leave impurites.:D This is what I was told by TIG welders and also from my own experience.

DonRotolo 12-11-2010 21:37

Re: Welding Advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Linn (Post 980581)
Aluminum must be absolutely clean for successful welding. Sanding or grinding should be done with a tool dedicated to Aluminum only. Degrease with a solvent but DO NOT use anything containing a chlorinated hydrocarbon! Brush away any oxides just prior to welding using a stainless steel brush that is dedicated for use on Aluminum only.

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Originally Posted by Katie_UPS (Post 980590)
Never underestimate the value in Proper Surface Preparation.

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Originally Posted by Scott L. (Post 980642)
You must use a stainless steel brush to clean aluminum, any carbon steel brush will leave impurites.

It cannot be over-emphasized: ANY (any!) steel dust or even molecules will cause an Aluminum weld to be weak. ONLY Stainless steel brushes may be used, and these must never be used for any other metal. Get a small angle grinder as well.

Cleanliness is difficult but essential for welding aluminum. It oxidizes in a few seconds. Weld an inch or two, stop & clean, repeat.

Welding generates a lot of heat, and your metal will crack from thermal stress if you try to weld a long bead as one might attempt in steel. An inch at a time.

Acetone makes a suitable solvent, but of course it is dangerous and flammable.

Practice, practice, practice.

AndyH 13-11-2010 21:59

Re: Welding Advice
 
I am kinda the head mechanical mentor for team 1098. That is exactly the welder I bought personally and let the team use it. I have taught about 8 students how to use it. They have been training new students each year. I supervise this process but that welder is quite forgiving and works very well. Our students do 100% of our design, fabrication, programming, machining as well as the welding. Our expierenced welders do not use auto helmets, they as well as I hate them, but they are good teaching tool.

As a welder I think there is lots of good info here.

joek 18-11-2010 20:58

Re: Welding Advice
 
when you get a auto-darken hood, try to get a multi-setting one, because you will likely be using the hood for multiple welders that have different required darkness

Dick Linn 18-11-2010 21:30

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My son uses both fixed-shade and auto-dark helmets. He says if you're running a lot of long beads that the fixed-shade is nice and more clear. If you have a lot of short welds and tacks, an auto-dark is convenient. He also likes the fixed shade helmets with the flip-down lens. Less neck strain.

jmichaelis 03-12-2010 11:21

Re: Welding Advice
 
Thank you all for the incredibly well thought out and thorough responses and advice. I think the best advice has been to reach out to an experienced welder locally. I'm currently hunting down a few leads with area colleges and pros, but if you have suggestions for someone from the Chicago area I'd be grateful. Again thanks for the huge response, its been really very valuable.

roystur44 03-12-2010 15:29

Re: Welding Advice
 
For the biggest bang for your buck take a look at pop rivet technology. Joining two pieces of metal with pop rivets is fast and economical and in most cases can substitute for welding. As a mentor for the team I encourage the team to try to make use of fastener technology like pem nuts, nuts and bolts, and pop rivets before resorting to welding to join metal.


Roy

Dick Linn 03-12-2010 18:25

Re: Welding Advice
 
In some cases, Team 975 used 10-32 cap screws to assemble a frame. Very strong and surprisingly cheap for a box of 100. Nyloc nuts were inexpensive as well. We got them at MSC.

jtus 12-12-2010 13:11

Re: Welding Advice
 
Get a MIG. Miller has a lot of good options. It will weld aluminum much easer than TIG. Have someone help with the set up and you will have nice welds with little practice.
We have 2 mig wielders one for aluminum and one for steel. We also have a TIG but only two people can use it at all.


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