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theprgramerdude 21-11-2010 16:52

Re: CIM quiz
 
Being a mechanical subteam is no excuse to not know this; personally, anyone on my team that is working design MUST know at least half of this stuff to do any work.

Garret 21-11-2010 17:10

Re: CIM quiz
 
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Being a mechanical subteam is no excuse to not know this; personally, anyone on my team that is working design MUST know at least half of this stuff to do any work.
Being on mechanical means that you should know this. You can never design anything well if you don't understand the big picture.

theprgramerdude 21-11-2010 17:44

Re: CIM quiz
 
True, but in the context of the FRC, knowing exactly how back-emf and inductance losses play into a motors performance isn't critical to design, although I do agree that knowing the effects that voltage, torque and load play into the operation of the motor are necessary.

Ether 21-11-2010 17:52

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Originally Posted by theprgramerdude (Post 981490)
...back-emf and inductance losses ...

Please note that back emf does not cause any "losses". It simply limits the amount of current that the source can deliver to the load.

The losses in the motor are due to I^2R heat in the motor windings, motor bearing and brush friction, windage, and core losses (hysteresis and eddy currents).




theprgramerdude 21-11-2010 18:48

Re: CIM quiz
 
Poor word choice on my part; I was referring to two separate concepts, inductance-related losses AND back-emf.

Ether 21-11-2010 19:13

Re: CIM quiz
 
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Originally Posted by theprgramerdude (Post 981501)
Poor word choice on my part; I was referring to two separate concepts, inductance-related losses AND back-emf.

Aha.

In that case, I would argue that understanding back emf is pretty important for understanding why a DC motor does what it does.

For example, back emf is the reason for the relationship between applied voltage and motor speed at constant load torque. If Ke is constant, then for constant load torque the speed varies linearly with applied voltage.





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