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mobilegamer999 07-12-2010 14:00

Re: iPhone Driver Station, No Computer Needed
 
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Originally Posted by nighterfighter (Post 984105)
This sounds really interesting.

So it should work with any current robot, no matter what the programming language is? Will the cRIO properly recognize the "getY()" function from the Iphone?

Regardless, I can't wait for it to come out and test it.

Yes, the 2 virtual joysticks are mapped to when the robot does getX and getY.
and for second joystick its getRawAxis(3) - for x, and getRawAxis(4) for y

linuxboy 07-12-2010 18:30

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Originally Posted by mobilegamer999 (Post 984046)

Also, i would like to make an iPad version of this to test with, but the lack of an iPad to test with is kinda an obstacle (however i might be able to borrow one from someone)

I have some experience with iOS programming as well as an iPad. I'd be happy to beta test the ipad version or even help with the app if you would find that agreeable. I can always email you copies of NSLog's output as well as safes of instrument runs. (At least I think you can save trials from instruments)

Good luck
Oliver

raymohi2181 07-12-2010 18:59

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Originally Posted by mobilegamer999 (Post 984046)

Also, i would like to make an iPad version of this to test with, but the lack of an iPad to test with is kinda an obstacle (however i might be able to borrow one from someone)

I have an iPad, so I could test it and send feedback. If you would like. The current robot I would use has a verity of custom senors and outputs.

-Ray H.

DDSLoan96 07-12-2010 19:15

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When will it come out and what is it going to be called??

mobilegamer999 07-12-2010 19:51

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Originally Posted by DDSLoan96 (Post 984176)
When will it come out and what is it going to be called??

It will most likely be called simply "Drive Station" or "FRC Driver Station" and it will be submitted to apple as soon as I make an icon and a splash image for it.

MrHance 07-12-2010 21:09

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I have been following this thread with great interest as I am sure that FRC is as well.

I am not a programmer so bear with me.

I am a Design Engineer so these questions are to help me understand the relationship of the system with the existing FRC controls.

Some other questions as far as using it at comps.

Will it be legal?

Will the WiFi signal interfere with other teams that maybe using the same applications or other application?

What is the range limitation?

How does this interface with the driver station controller?

Will this app. work with other systems like VEX, NURC and LEGO controll?

As I think of other applications I will post the questions here.

Agian, Great work and I hope this will help you all make it thru college.

mobilegamer999 07-12-2010 21:38

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MrHance, I'm glad you brought that up, and that is probably something I should have stated in the opening post, this would not be a legal control system during competitions, due to the fact that it is WiFi based and any wireless is not allowed on the field during a match except for the wireless the robots are using. On a side note to that however, I am looking into a possible way this could be modified to be a legal control method, but its unlikely that it would be very practical if it were in working, legal condition.

As far as your question of "How does this interface with the driver station controller?"
This is actually a complete replacement for the drive station, this application runs 100% independently by itself with no computer required anywhere in the system.

And No, this application is not programmed to work with the VEX,NURC, or LEGO controllers, it can only control FRC robots.

This app is mainly expected to be used for demonstration purposes, or in any circumstance where it is inconvenient/impractical/impossible to use the driver station. As far as the range of the system is concerned, if the iPhone is within the range of the WiFi network, and so is the robot, they you have control, which typically, line of sight would be about 200-300 feet, and with many walls in between about 100 feet. If you have any more questions feel free to ask me.

Tom Bottiglieri 07-12-2010 23:37

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Originally Posted by mobilegamer999 (Post 984056)
@kgzak
the finesse and approval process will probably take about 3 weeks or so, and im planning on either .99 or 1.99, but im leaning more towards 99 cents.

Wow, this looks pretty cool! May I suggest making this a free app? I think more people would be willing to give it a shot. Even though a buck is cheap, there are a ton of people who refuse to pay for apps.

mobilegamer999 08-12-2010 00:02

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Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 984264)
Wow, this looks pretty cool! May I suggest making this a free app? I think more people would be willing to give it a shot. Even though a buck is cheap, there are a ton of people who refuse to pay for apps.

As much as I would love to make this app free, because it IS the first community, I'm still trying to break even on the price of my apple developer license, but as soon as I break even on that, this would be the first app I would want to make free.

chemipanda 09-12-2010 13:10

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Is there a possibility to get a YouTube video up of it in action?

Fennig247 09-12-2010 14:42

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So I love the idea. I have been on the team for 9 years and wanted to see something like this come about. Luckily, there is a company that has already made an app to work with robots for the ipad and iphone. I will get more information on it but they were out in Michigan at somerset mall and where demoing off some amazing pieces of work.

mobilegamer999 09-12-2010 23:34

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Originally Posted by chemipanda (Post 984553)
Is there a possibility to get a YouTube video up of it in action?

We recorded some videos at our last meeting, and once they are editied, they will be posted here.

GaryVoshol 10-12-2010 06:19

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Originally Posted by Fennig247 (Post 984562)
So I love the idea. I have been on the team for 9 years and wanted to see something like this come about. Luckily, there is a company that has already made an app to work with robots for the ipad and iphone. I will get more information on it but they were out in Michigan at somerset mall and where demoing off some amazing pieces of work.

Yah, just some little outfit called AndyMark ... http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...ghlight=iPhone

Mike Martus 10-12-2010 07:36

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Like Gary said.... check out AndyMark..... there is a company and developers that have this nailed down. The demo from what I have heard was great and has lots of WOW factors and is practical to some level. There are beta testers here in Michigan that have been part of the development. From what I understand the system is available, again, check out andyMark.biz as they are the retailers of it.

mobilegamer999 10-12-2010 10:18

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I saw the iAmDriver app a while ago when andymark first posted about it, but I decided to continue producing this application because this app is significantly different from iAmDriver because it doesnt cost $300, and requires no extra hardware or programming.


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