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Argon27 10-12-2010 20:56

What team was this?
 
Hey Everyone,
I'm just wondering if anyone knows what teams used the ball redirect method at Breakaway World Championships in Atlanta. I'm specifically interested in the one that parked in the tunnel in autonomous, unfolded, and didn't move for the rest of the game. It was tall, and silver.<---Descriptive, huh? :)
Thank You!

Akash Rastogi 10-12-2010 20:59

Re: What team was this?
 
469

Jared Russell 10-12-2010 20:59

Re: What team was this?
 
469

Katie_UPS 10-12-2010 21:04

Re: What team was this?
 
Just to beat the dead horse:

469

apalrd 10-12-2010 21:07

Re: What team was this?
 
469.

To elaborate on that robot (in case you want more than their number):

8wd with pneumatic tires - 3-speed servo shifted Dewalt (4 CIM). Front and back pairs pneumatically lifted. You don't push them, they push you.

Unfolding mechanism - You have seen it already. What you probably didn't see is that they latch into the tunnel from the bottom, so once they unfold, they are locked in.

Ball control - 3-roller collector (top driven 2xFP, free-spinning bottom and back), full width (sticks out in front of front wheels)
They also have a good kicker. This means that on the rare occasion that you get to the tunnel before they do, and manages to not let 469 push you out, that they can still play a "normal" game, even if they can't change zones. They are good at it, too. If their partners are incapable, they can play a mid-zone game then get back in the tunnel.

You can't tip them. They will right themselves if they fall over backwards, even if they are pushed all the way down (to the point that their mechanism touches the ground).

Cyberphil 10-12-2010 21:12

Re: What team was this?
 
Just in case this was not enough already, here is where some of their matches are. The site is called the blue alliance, and if you search any team number (and name) you can find the team.

http://www.thebluealliance.net/tbatv/team/469

If you click the little video reel or the green download arrow, you can watch matches they are in. I would suggest the Einstein matches. :)

JaneYoung 10-12-2010 21:17

Re: What team was this?
 
A team with a classy attitude that had to deal with a lot of nasty attitude and didn't let it prevent or deter them from playing the game on their terms.

Jane

DonRotolo 10-12-2010 21:23

Re: What team was this?
 
469 is one of the nicest bunch of people we ever lost to. I spent a good amount of time right next to them during Curie playoffs, saw how they operated, and want to emulate most of what I saw.

They did get a lot of 'bad press' and dirty looks for their brilliant method. Oh, it could be defeated (witness our first Curie match against them), but they competed and played fair and square.

Cyberphil 10-12-2010 21:26

Re: What team was this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JaneYoung (Post 984836)
A team with a classy attitude that had to deal with a lot of nasty attitude and didn't let it prevent or deter them from playing the game on their terms.

Jane

Can you please explain this Jane? I do not quite understand.

I personally shook their hands and told them what a great implementation of a great idea it was. I did not hear about anyone giving them attitude, and if they did why? Because they came up with a great idea and implemented it well?

If you don't want to say it on the thread, please feel free to pm me.

Mike Schreiber 10-12-2010 21:52

Re: What team was this?
 
469 was battered with accusations of cheating and breaking the rules throughout the season all over. There was even a "joke" rule at MSC saying that a team couldn't park in the tunnel for more than the pinning time as it was impeding the movement of robots and would be penalized. While meant as a joke, it was in bad taste. There team also had to deal with the crowd consistently cheering for the opposing alliance and going wild when they flipped. Overall not an exemplary example of GP from the community.

JaneYoung 10-12-2010 22:02

Re: What team was this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberphil (Post 984840)
I personally shook their hands and told them what a great implementation of a great idea it was. I did not hear about anyone giving them attitude, and if they did why? Because they came up with a great idea and implemented it well?

Glad to hear it. I'll see if I can find a thread or two here in CD.

Jane

rcmolloy 10-12-2010 22:13

Re: What team was this?
 
I give them major props for being able to implement the perfect ball redirector. I know when I saw their robot in a video on Youtube redirecting I was amazed.

CENTURION 10-12-2010 23:01

Re: What team was this?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by apalrd (Post 984834)
469.

To elaborate on that robot (in case you want more than their number):

Ball control - 3-roller collector (top driven 2xFP, free-spinning bottom and back), full width (sticks out in front of front wheels)
They also have a good kicker. This means that on the rare occasion that you get to the tunnel before they do, and manages to not let 469 push you out, that they can still play a "normal" game, even if they can't change zones. They are good at it, too. If their partners are incapable, they can play a mid-zone game then get back in the tunnel.

We were in an alliance with them where this had to be implemented for a different reason; There was a velcro strap that held the redirector arms in place in the pit for safety reasons, unfortunately, it was not removed before the robot was put on the field :ahh:
Despite that, they still scored and fed us ammunition wonderfully!

kgzak 10-12-2010 23:41

Re: What team was this?
 
469 Amazing Team, Amazing Robot. That's all I can say. I wish we had thought of something like that. There team was amazing, lending us parts and or tools when we needed them, being as much fun to play against as to play with.

BJC 10-12-2010 23:54

Re: What team was this?
 
It is a rare robot that changes the game so greatly that one has to completly rethink how to play it.

469 was that robot. Enough said.


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