School Size vs. Team Size
 

Hey everyone,

After getting into a bit of a discussion about the size of teams and the size of the school they are from, I decided to create this thread. This is a much better place to discuss team sizes. I wanted to see the variation in these stats, and I figured this would be the easiest way to do it.

So my questions are:

1. How many students are on your team?
and
2. How many total students are in your school (Preferably grades 9-12)?

Any other discussion about team size and school size is welcomed also.

For team 103, we are a team of about 30 students in a school of about 750 (Grades 9-12).

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2106:
Team Size: 14 students
Mentors/coaches: 2
Active parents: 5
Student Body: 750
FIRST Programs: FRC and FTC

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422:

Students: 15-50 depending how you count.
Student Body: ~700

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We're 30-35 students in a 3000 student body. Probably a bit below average on the percentage there, but we're not too worried about it.

Edit: That's 1% to 1.17%

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2081:

Team members: 35

Student body: ~800

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1647:
Team Size: 60-80 students
Mentors/coaches: 12
Active parents: 10
Student Body: 2800 (Two Schools)
FIRST Programs: FRC

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2022:
Team size: 30 very dedicated, 50 total students
School Size: 600-650

We go to a Science and Math academy, so our percentages should be higher than average.

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I think it would be interesting to also comment on the area the school is in, and post the percentage of the school on the team.

Ours is primarily lower-middle class, and somewhat agricultural.

14 students of 1649, .85%

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wow, looking at the posts so far my high school was pretty big! (I graduated last year, so my numbers might be a little off, but based on previous years this is what our team generally is)

Team Size: usually 20-30 students
Mentors: 4
School Coaches/Mentors: 2
Involved Parents: 5-6
Total Students in the School: ~4000

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Team of about 60 students, maybe 30 mentors and parents, school of 3500ish, with the 9th graders in a separate building (obviously I'm not too sure on any of these numbers :P)

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Team Members = 60
School Size = 2000

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Team: 30-50
Mentors: 5-6
School: 3000+

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675
2010-2011 Season
Team size: 60
School Size: 210

Usually it's usually around 30-40 students with a student body of 220 or so.

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191:
Team Size: 40 students
Mentors/coaches: 21
Student Body: 1272 (according to the Section V website for sports classification)
FIRST Programs: FRC

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Students: 20~30
Mentors: 5+ (new this year!)
School size: 3300

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Team #111
Students this year: 85, average during competition season 65. The majority come from two original schools, Wheeling (WILDcats) and Rolling Meadows (muSTANGs)
Teachers: 3
Mentors: ~30, 15 active day to day operations.
Students from any school (6) in district including home schooled: enrollment 12,353 in 2010, two schools participate in Battlebots IQ exclusively.
Active Parent Group (30-40) provides support in all areas and assists with rideshare.
FRC, FTC, FLL support, VEX
Most schools have started Project Lead The Way.

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Team 341:

Members: 60 members, (40 full time, 20 part time)

School Size: ~1400

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816:

Registered Members: ~47

School Size: ~1200-1300

Mentors: 3-4 Teachers, 1 Technical Mentor, 2-3 Alumni

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3413
Registered Students: 24
Mentors/Coach:2
School Size:3500

I don't know exactly why our percentage is so off actually. There is a STEM academy within our school, but only about 3-4 people on the team are from it. Otherwise it's a lower to upper middle class school.

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Senior Students (11-12): 20-30
Junior Students (9-10): ~10
Mentors/Coaches/Active Parents:~10
Total Students at School (9-12):3500

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1551:

Team size: 25-30 students
School size: ~250 students in 9-12

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Excellent information base! Its very interesting to see these stats. We have 2 teachers, and about 5 or 6 mentors along with 10 or so active parents. So, a solid team at that.

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This is gonna be scary.

Team size: 8 students(of them only 5 show up regularly, including me :)

school size: about 800-ish

mentors: 2

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Aquidneck Island Robotics (AIR) 4-H club
7 FLL teams
2 FTC teams
FRC Team 78, AIR Strike

We are the largest 4-H club in RI and will take anyone willing to drive where we work. The 100+ kids in AIR come from 30+ schools in roughly a 20-25 mile radius from Newport, RI, and include home school kids, and public and private high schools. There are over 60 active volunteers, mentors, and parents helping out all ten teams. We have no teachers in the club who are associated with any of the schools.

For FRC this year, on my roster there are ~35 kids from 10+ middle and high schools and ~30 adult volunteers.

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for 294 we have about 30-35 students, with most from a school of 2000ish and about 3 of the 30 from a separate high school, obviously were trying to do a little recruiting

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1189 draws from the two high schools in the district, so the total student body is around 3000. Taking both schools into consideration, we would probably be a pretty average middle class district with a very high emphasis on athletics.

Team size: 45
Mentors/parents: 20 (that number may be higher)
Teachers: 1

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33:
Team Size: ~30 students
School Size: ~750 students
Engineering Mentors: 4 (2 from Chrysler, 1 from BAE systems, 1 college student/alumni)
Non-Engineering Mentors: 4 (2 from Chrysler, 1 teacher, 1 alumni)
Active Parents: 3

More team background:
Notre Dame Prep(33) is a private school. Most of the nearby public schools have FRC teams as well.
We are considered to be in Auburn Hills, because we were originally from Avondale high school (Auburn Hills, the yellow jackets) and are located at the Chrysler Tech Center, in Auburn Hills.

We are in a very FRC team-dense area. According to OPR data, we are ranked 11th in the world. However, we are ranked 3rd in our county (behind teams 67 and 469)

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Team 134
Members: 29
School Size: 837

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we have about 2000 people and 50 people... but we have 3 Grandville teams so I guess its more like 15-17 per team then...

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Team 1675:
Students: ~20 on the roster. 10-12 that show up regularly
School Size: ~3000 (we come from two schools)
Mentors: This is only including mentors that attend meetings frequently
Engineering: 2
College Kids: 4
Fabrication/Machinists: 1 (2 if an old mentor comes back)
Teachers/School Staff: 6

District Background: Milwaukee Public Schools (MPS) is considered a pretty poor district over-all; both economically, as well in proficiencies of reading and math. However, we have a very diverse group of students in both skin color, socio-economic status, and educational background on our team.

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Um, I suppose for 1261, it's more interesting to look at data spanning two seasons.

In 2010:
Members: ~20
Mentors:~5
Student Body: ~3500

This season so far:
Members: ~50
Mentors:~5 + About 5-10 parents that have helped out.
Student Body: ~3500

It'll be interesting to see how many of these kids maintain interest and carry on their determination and hardwork into the FRC season. Many of them stayed on because they were working with a small group in VRC, but they'll be in for a bit of a learning curve when the team goes into FRC.

- Sunny

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Student Members: ~30, maybe half really active
Mentors: 20, maybe 12 active. 3 are primarily NEMs, another handful of us do both.
School Size: ~4000 (2 campuses, we don't get many from one of them)

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1529: Indianapolis Indiana township school
2250 students
~20 members
3 mentors as of 12/20/10

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Interesting, I'm assuming it's predominately Mira Costa. When I was on the team it was more predominately Redondo Students.

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Hamilton West
2495

team size: about 20, with 5ish "core" students
School size: about 1500
Mentors: one, with another that stops by now and then

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I by no means want to side track this thread, so if you would like, please disregard my comments.

OK, now that I've qualified my remarks, here we go.
If the crux of the original conversation was strictly for statistical purposes, then great! But, if you are trying to measure how your team stands comparing it to other teams, then I suggest you stop comparing. It is not good for you, your team or the FIRST community.
Your team is your team. You get from it what you put into it.

As I like to say, "It's not what you do it with, it's what you do with it."

Now for the numbers:

25-35 students.
1 Advisor.
2 Engineering Mentors.
3 Alumni/College student Mentors.
7-10 involved parents.
~1500 student body.

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That would be correct

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team 10-12
school 850 ish
mentors 2
2 active parants

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Shaker Robotics:
18 Students
2 Full Time Mentors
1 Part Time Mentor
3 College Students (2 of them former members)

School Students ~2100

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Team: 30
School: 350

We have three students from neighboring towns as part of our 30. Millis High School (my team's home town) is the smallest public school in the state of Massachusetts.

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Team size: 25
School size: about 150

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Team 639:

School Size: ~1600
Average team size in the last few years: ~20-30
Team size this year: 55 (a LOT of freshmen and sophomores joined)
Mentors: probably 6 engineering this year, unsure of non-engineering

This big jump in students this year has been a bit of a problem for us. Not that we're complaining though :D

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166:
School: 1572 Students (+- the usual 20)
Team size in past years: ~60
Team size this year: ~60
Mentors: I've lost count.

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Team 1640

FRC Students: ~25
Student Body: 3676 (grades 9-12)
Mentors (FRC only): 15
Involved Parents: 4
Other Associated Teams:
15 VEX Teams
6 FLL Teams

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Team Size: about 65 students

Mentors is somewhere around 15-20 depending on what exactly counts as a mentor

School Size: slightly under 3000 students

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Our school is one of the more smaller rural schools in HI, roughly 1 to 1 1/2 hours away from Honolulu, depending on traffic.
We are grades 7-12 with just under 600 students.
Its VERY difficult to get kids into our STEM/robotics program, but we manage to get about 25 kids/year. Being in a plantation community, most of the general population students love computer classes since most of them are technology starved at home with no internet access. Seriously.

We always get students every year who's first time on a plane is for a mainland robotics trip.:ahh:

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Team 1986

Team members: ~40 (This is more than previous years if I recall correctly, but build season hasn't started yet. There'll probably be an active core of at least 30.)
Mentors: 9+ mentors/teachers/alumni in college
Student body: ~1,750

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2075
team members: 20-25 (4 really dedicated ones)
school size: 542 if I remember correctly.

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Team 2175

Students: 11 presently registered in STIMS
School size: 134 students 9-12 (~300 6-12)

I believe there are at least 2 students not yet registered that plan on joining and the team is hoping to gain a few more after a man-versus-machine pullup challenge with our Breakaway bot at a school function tomorrow.

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Students at school: 950
Teams members: 55

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I completely understand where you are coming from. I agree that it is not healthy to make your team more like other teams based on what is, "Most common," or even compare your team to other teams.

The only reason I created this thread was to see the diversity in the FIRST community. It was not to compare our team to other teams, it was really just to see what was out there, because I literally had no idea what was really out there.

Thank you very much for your concern, and we will be sure to use this information more for extending our knowledge of FIRST rather than the betterment of our own team.

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Team 2834

when we started, we had 6 students, but now we've grown to about 28.

Team Members: 28 (as stated above, 3 really dedicated)
School Size: ~1000 (9-12)
Mentors:4

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I'll split it up by school

Brother Rice:
School size: about 700
Guys on team: about 20-25

Marian:
School size: about 600
Girls on team: 5-10

2010 number of members: 23
Past peak number of members: 43
2011 projected number of members: 30-35

Number of mentors: 4

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Team: 433
Current Members: ~ 67 (This is a high number for us!!!)
School size: 568 (9-12)
Percentage: ~ 12%
Mentors: ~20

Background: We are from an all girls private Catholic school in Flourtown PA. Most of the girls live all over the Deleware Valley. (For example I live in Cheltenham, PA and commute about 30 mintues to and from school)

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Team: ~45
School: ~400
Mentors/Coaches: 4

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Team: 2374
School: Jesuit High School
Members: 25 - 30, 15 or so of which are fairly dedicated
Mentors: 2 (though we would like more, especially ones with FRC experience *hint hint*)
Parents: not really sure, but probably less than 5
School Size: 1250

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We're kind of in a tight spot with only 3-4 kids on the team right now. We have about 4 mentors and plenty of space just having trouble getting dedicated kids :-(.


Recap -

School Name - North White High School (Monon,Indiana)

Decent Sponsors

Mentors - About 5

Parents - Not Sure

Team member count: 3-4

School size(9-12): 250ish

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Team size: 37 this year, 25-40 through history
Mentors: 21, almost all parents (who are almost all engineers)
School size: 900 (9-12)

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Carmel High School has about 4500 students, all on one campus.

868 historically has had 50-60 students involved at the start of the season, and 10-30 mentors (recently the number has been high).

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Wow! What a great information base! Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread. These are some very interesting and varying statistics. If I ever find the time (:rolleyes: ) I might create some kind of chart that will make all of these numbers more visual. I am thinking of some type of demographics table or map of FIRST.

Any input would be great!

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Team 201
Members: 45-50
Mentors: 15+ (fluctuates year to year)
School Size: 2200

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Students: 10
Mentors: 3-5
Parents: 0
Students: 2500
Title 1 School, Lower middle class.

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FRC Team 1311
Members: 44
Mentors: 12
School Size: 2000

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FRC176:
Team Size: 40 Students
Teacher Mentors: 2
Engineer Mentors: 5
Parents: 10
Student Body: 1500 combined (2 schools)

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Lets see here
School Size: 4,000+
Team size: 20-25 kids
Mentors: 6-7

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FRC341
Enrollment of high school: ~1500 (Wissahickon High School), ~1100 (North Montco Technical Career Center)
Team Mentors (teacher/professional): 6-8
Team Mentors (college students): 4-6
Team Size: 35-50 students

Exact numbers vary from year to year. Additionally, there are dozens of parents who play a pivotal role in our team's success each year.

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Members: 26
Mentors: 2
School Size: 250

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Aviation High School - Skunkworks Robotics
Team 1983
School Size 400

Team members 46
Coaches -2
Mentors - 18
Parents - 12 (others help too)

Percentage of the school participating is around 12%
But we have taken our entire school to a regional...!!!

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Team 1592 Bionic Tigers
Cocoa High School/Holy Trinity
Cocoa Student Population: 955
Holy Trinity Student Population: 337
Student Team Members: 10-15
Parents: 2-5
*Mentors: 3-5
Adult Mentors: 4-8

*mentors not from a **sponsor or parent(usually alumni).
**sponsor includes schools

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What is "OPR" Data? I am very curious about this.

Thanks!

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Offense Power Rating, or something like that. AKA how many points you score.

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862:
team size: 40ish, unsure on exact number
school size: 6200+

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Team 461, Westside Boiler Invasion
West Lafayette Jr./Sr. High School (followings number for 9-12)
Robotics students: ~50 students, ~20 of which are freshmen, ~15 dedicated total
Students grade 9-12: ~700
college mentors: ~5, ~3 dedicated
non-college mentors: 1
and of course, the coolest guy ever, Stephen Florence. ::safety::

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Team 2729 (Storm Robotics)
Schools: Lenape and Cherokee High Schools
Number of Students in Schools: about 4500 (two schools)
Number of Students on Team: between 65 and 75 (we branched off and started and FTC team this year which has 20-25 additional students)
Number of Mentors: 15-20 (who are amazing!!)
Number of Active Parents: I honestly don't know...we started a parent-run Boosters Club this year, and I think there are at least 10 parents in it!

So we don't have an overwhelmingly large percentage of students in our schools on our team, but we have a the perfect amount of students and mentors to get stuff done without being overcrowded!

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It has something to do with your offensive contribution to your alliance. This database shows the OPR for the 2010 season. I remember Karthik describing it really well one time, but I forget where. Check it out in this scouting database.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/papers/2334

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For Saints Robotics 1899:
Students: 60
Mentors: 4
School Population: 1341
4.5% student involvement

(2009-2010 numbers)

We don't have a huge problem with student involvement, but we could definitely use a more supportive parent network and mentor base.

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226:
Team Size: 45 students (~15 dedicated)
Mentors/coaches: ~6
Active parents: 5
Student Body: 4800 (3 schools)
FIRST Programs: FRC

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Team Size: 30 students
School Size: 350 students
Percentage: ~9%

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Jeff! I saw this thread and wanted to impress everybody by telling the people how gigantic our school was! You beat me to it!
Anyway, those numbers are smaller than reality. 862's actual numbers are:

• Team size: 72 students, 18 mentors as of last year. This year's information is not fully tallied yet.
• school size: 6536 on Count Day (a Michigan thing), all on one campus.

After looking at the data, I have noticed a trend:

• As the size of a school increases, the size of the team increases. (obvious)
• The size of the team increases at a slower proportional rate than the size of the school;
• Therefore, as the size of a school increases, the percentage of the school population on the team decreases.

Perhaps this is due to the availability of other activities. However, another possible reason is that the primary way people become involved in these activities is by association. When there are more people to associate with, less association occurs with any particular person. Simplistically, people are less likely to join the robotics team because fewer of their good friends are on the team.

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Team 461
West Side High School
700 people
50 people on Robotics
aprox. 7% of the school
8-10 mentors


We seem to be a little heavy on nerds...

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AS THINGS STAND NOW

Team size: 10 students
Team-that-actually-does-or-tries-to-do-something Size: 5 students

Mentors: 5
Consistent Mentors: 2

School Population: 2400 students

Student Population Involvement Percentage: 0.42%
Student Population Genuine Involvement Percentage: 0.21%

Needless to say, the team could use some more interested people.

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Team 2871(used to be 2043)
Team size: 20-30
1300 students
15 mentors/coaches

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We have a school of 140ish students and our team has 35 members. Only about 25 are actively involved though.

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Hello Everyone,

Team 610 has:

Students: ~50
Mentors/Coaches: 4-6
Total Students at School (9-12): ~350

Around 14% of the student body is committed to the FRC team.

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Hey team 1332 is from a pre k -12 school with roughly 300 students
in our high school there are 90 and currently we have 30 students on our team. I am proud to say we have 1/3 of our high school involved

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Apparently with the updated email list, we have:

Students: ~55
Mentors: ~8
Total Students: ~3000

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Team 1058:

mentors- ~3
students: 30-35
student body-~1400

that's 2.5% of the school

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Students in team : 4
Mentor : 0.5
School Size : 3330 appro
Team Budget : $almost 68

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team members: ~24 i think maybe more
Students in school: ~ about 3000 students

*i think these are close to being right::rtm::

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about 150 team members (maybe more not sure)
about 2000 students at high school

I think those are correct maybe more maybe less!



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