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Grim Tuesday 21-12-2010 21:46

Re: 2011 Game Hint #1
 
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Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 987501)
This is when these threads become useless.

People start posting things that have already been posted because they don't have the common courtesy to read first, or even try a simple search.

Oh well, see you after the next hint.

Hey I read it all. I hope noone mentioned my mirror idea that I missed.

Someone should really do a compilation thread (note, seperate thread where the top post is updated with the latest info) Maybe il do it tomorow.

Dragon Princess 21-12-2010 21:58

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Originally Posted by unionylibertad (Post 987367)
c'mon guys...remember that the game has be accessible to rookies (which there are a record number of) and cannot cost FIRST a fortune (like leasing and hauling train cars into sports arena)

they don't need to rent real train carts, they could just have boxes that they put onto prefabricated 'train cart' chassis

Karibou 21-12-2010 21:59

Re: 2011 Game Hint #1
 
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Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 987504)
Hey I read it all. I hope noone mentioned my mirror idea that I missed.

Someone should really do a compilation thread (note, seperate thread where the top post is updated with the latest info) Maybe il do it tomorow.

I doubt that there will be much of an update to be posted after today. Really, all of the points mentioned in this thread were mentioned at least twice. Most things were mentioned 3 or more times.

(however, I did type up a brief summary that I posted on Facebook for a few friends that hit the main points. If anyone wants it, let me know)

Bochek 21-12-2010 22:05

Re: 2011 Game Hint #1
 
Just to stir up the thoughts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQYD5TVCGlY

Luke3161 21-12-2010 22:06

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Hi,
Here are my thoughts about the game in descending order of likelihood.

A water game is completely unreasonable because these robots cost several thousand dollars. Frying a CRIO is not something FIRST wants to be responsible for. Also, with robots getting wet, water would get all over the pits, field and competition area in general. Again, there are things like cameras, computers and other expensive electronics FIRST will not want to replace.

Irregular terrain on the field. This was already seen last year, and played a big role in the success of teams who were able to work together and maneuver easily. This kind on small irregularity on the field is likely to appear again to "appease the crowd" (think of robots flipping). Also, it ties into to new drive trains and helping rookie teams have just as fresh a start as the other teams. I do not think there will be multiple floors, but maybe a small raised area maybe a foot or so off the general playing field level. Perhaps partly with a cliff type area and a ramp for entrance.

Tennis balls being used as game pieces. They are cheap and available everywhere. This would be especially good for rookie teams who have not done a lot of fundraising or have few sponsors. It ties in with FIRST's drive for more teams with the paying for registration and such.

Moving game pieces. There have not been independently moving pieces ever from what I can see, and I do not think that those will be introduced because they would be prone to breaking, especially with the forces made by the 120 pound robots, so I would rule out trains or moving carts. However, I think it is within reason to have buckets or trolleys which could be moved or pushed by the robots, potentially with tennis contained to score points.

Chris Fultz 21-12-2010 22:21

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Originally Posted by FIRSTtm134 (Post 987121)
It was an image reversed... So basically what we saw was not reality.

But how do you know the GDC reversed the image. Maybe the original was reversed, and the GDC put it back the way it was supposed to be?

gorillamonky 21-12-2010 22:29

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the tennis ball was not a real game hint right?

Karibou 21-12-2010 22:35

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Originally Posted by Chris Fultz (Post 987514)
But how do you know the GDC reversed the image. Maybe the original was reversed, and the GDC put it back the way it was supposed to be?

I think that we have to assume that the picture on the album cover is in the correct orientation. One of the first things that we learned in journalism regarding photos is that you NEVER flip photos, ever. When you flip photos, all of the sudden person X writes with their right hand instead of their left. I think the same is probably true for this situation.


Edit: This seems to be the image that was flipped, in higher quality. The top cuts off at approximately the same spot on both pictures.

Whateveryousay 21-12-2010 22:52

Re: 2011 Game Hint #1
 
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Originally Posted by Bochek (Post 987510)
Just to stir up the thoughts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQYD5TVCGlY

This is something that I am interested in, FIRST has been trying to tie it with sports, and this is definitly something that we want to look at.

Gir_450 21-12-2010 23:04

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Originally Posted by Karibou (Post 987519)
I think that we have to assume that the picture on the album cover is in the correct orientation. One of the first things that we learned in journalism regarding photos is that you NEVER flip photos, ever. When you flip photos, all of the sudden person X writes with their right hand instead of their left. I think the same is probably true for this situation.


Edit: This seems to be the image that was flipped, in higher quality. The top cuts off at approximately the same spot on both pictures.

Our programers found this picture and IT IS indeed reversed, the GDC is messing with us again this year on this one. :ahh:

BACONDUDE1902 21-12-2010 23:12

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i think the name of the game well be "The Loco-Motion":yikes:


http://www.history-of-rock.com/little_eva.htm

Chris Fultz 21-12-2010 23:14

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I have read all 350+ posts, this is pretty interesting stuff.

The locomotion seems too easy. What about some of the other songs or other links to EVA?

I like the thoughts on the mirrors and reverses, the date 12-21, etc.

Lots of cool thought and well worth the time to read!

Gir_450 21-12-2010 23:17

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What our team has found that is a huge event in history is the triple conjunction between Uranus and Jupiter (This happens in January). These planets, as we all know, were named after roman gods. The pillar in the hint appears to be of roman architect. Now here's where conjunction comes in, the woman is Little Eva, whose biggest hit was in 1962 and it was titled "Loco-Motion". Locomotion can refer to trains, and trains can refer to conjunctions. Therefore, we are possibly dealing with some sort of train game =P

unionylibertad 21-12-2010 23:22

Re: 2011 Game Hint #1
 
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Originally Posted by gorillamonky (Post 987516)
the tennis ball was not a real game hint right?

it was a red herring, meaning that it was kinda distractor...prolly only a less noticed part (or "aspect) of the image was a "clue"

unionylibertad 21-12-2010 23:24

Re: 2011 Game Hint #1
 
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Originally Posted by Chris Fultz (Post 987530)
The locomotion seems too easy. What about some of the other songs or other links to EVA?

the hints FIRST gives out are never too complex...someone has always guessed them correctly in some way or form...chances are that the real nature of the clue has already been touched on in this thread ;)


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