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Robert Cawthon 12-21-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Team#2057-Vegas (Post 987153)
great thought robert! that would be insane! Did you notice in FIRST Choice we could choose a ftc extras kit? That makes this sound twice as plausible! programming 2 robots.. 1 to carry the other?

at the same time.. this sounds like a lot to do in near 2 minutes.. :eek:

Also, weren't the early 'bots small, like VEX?

Team#2057-Vegas 12-21-2010 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GGCO (Post 987156)
Conjunction is a word associated with trains. I am reminded of the "Conjunction junction" video all of our elementary grammar teachers showed us!

I think this game is somehow based off that eclipse last night.. its a once in a lifetime thing that wont happen for another 500 years or more

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunc...d_astrology%29

When they get even closer.. its called an appulse.. and even closer than that.. an occulation.. it has to do with eclipses though.. which of one we had last night.. maybe there really is a link?

think of a game like this.. stairs in the middle going to a platform with vase like structiures.. (it goes back to the roman-greek times of astronomy).. we start at the bottoms and have to go all the way to the otherside.. (up and down the stairs) to grab our pieces and put them on the vases in the correct order.. but the order is what makes it more complicated..

food for thought :yikes:

GGCO 12-21-2010 12:33 PM

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I'm really skeptical of another space themed game. I think the reoccurring theme here is railroads/chains. Maybe the poll, but I think that's a red herring of sorts.

Team#2057-Vegas 12-21-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Cawthon (Post 987163)
Also, weren't the early 'bots small, like VEX?

never thought of that.. goes good with the 20th anniversary thing

Rob Colatutto 12-21-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Team#2057-Vegas (Post 987153)
great thought robert! that would be insane! Did you notice in FIRST Choice we could choose a ftc extras kit? That makes this sound twice as plausible! programming 2 robots.. 1 to carry the other?

at the same time.. this sounds like a lot to do in near 2 minutes.. :eek:

A lot of teams did this in 2002. For the home zone scoring, you only needed to touch the zone, not be completely inside of it. Many teams had a small robot that drove off their robot, connected by the AC/control wires as a tether, and drove it back to their home zone in the last 15 or so seconds to score the bonus points.

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This is in reference to the "mini-bot" discussion

Also of interest here, is that many of these small robots got run over by the larger robots, or crushed in between goals, or between a goal and the player station wall. A great example of this is team 329's 2002 robot at the SBPLI Long Island Regional. I may be able to dig up a video of this somewhere later on.
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Team#2057-Vegas 12-21-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Colatutto (Post 987167)
A lot of teams did this in 2002. For the home zone scoring, you only needed to touch the zone, not be completely inside of it. Many teams had a small robot that drove off their robot, connected by the AC/control wires as a tether, and drove it back to their home zone in the last 15 or so seconds to score the bonus points.

i need to research the old games more.. this is my 3rd year aha..

Offtopic: Rob, is Team Spyder coming to the Vegas regional again? You guys are awesome, incredibly impressed me last year.

Team#2057-Vegas 12-21-2010 12:44 PM

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I know I'm posting a little.. but for some more food for thought.. here's a list of all the historical events in 1991.. 20 years ago when FRC began.. any ideas? enjoy reading!

http://www.hisdates.com/years/1991-h...al-events.html ::rtm::

pandamonium 12-21-2010 12:45 PM

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can we brainstorm what game pieces would go good with stairs?

Gary Dillard 12-21-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Colatutto (Post 987167)
A lot of teams did this in 2002. For the home zone scoring, you only needed to touch the zone, not be completely inside of it. Many teams had a small robot that drove off their robot, connected by the AC/control wires as a tether, and drove it back to their home zone in the last 15 or so seconds to score the bonus points.

Don't even get me started on the Woodie Flowers "Well even though it's against the rules, we'll allow it because they put so much effort into it" debate from 2002.

Team#2057-Vegas 12-21-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 987175)
can we brainstorm what game pieces would go good with stairs?

well.. knowing the GDC always wants to make it as hard as possible.. it would likely be a ball.. they dont usually sit well on stairs :) boxes on the otherhand do work..

opinion depends on your level of optimism

Robert Cawthon 12-21-2010 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pandamonium (Post 987175)
can we brainstorm what game pieces would go good with stairs?

That one is easy! Cubes! When pushed together and stacked correctly, they make the stairs! We have to make the stairs, climb up, and do something (perhaps drop a tennis ball down a vertical tube) to score.

GGCO 12-21-2010 12:51 PM

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We need to think about what would be exciting for our audience (a group of non-nerds) to watch. Personally, I don't think watching robots build stairs is an exciting spectator sport.

Team#2057-Vegas 12-21-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Cawthon (Post 987178)
That one is easy! Cubes! When pushed together and stacked correctly, they make the stairs! We have to make the stairs, climb up, and do something (perhaps drop a tennis ball down a vertical tube) to score.

that one actually makes a ton of sense.. it even adds in the "jumping" part someone mentioned from locamotion.. this would probably make for bigger game alliances (the idea of a train having several cars) which follows what first has been trying to do which is to have more games in a regional.. my ADD mind is already thinking about how bonus points would be part of this one :)

edit/ I'm really flipflopping everytime someone makes ideas.. hmm.. /edit

Dustin Shadbolt 12-21-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GGCO (Post 987179)
We need to think about what would be exciting for our audience (a group of non-nerds) to watch. Personally, I don't think watching robots build stairs is an exciting spectator sport.

However climbing and playing on an elevated field or something would be.

Sam Lipscomb 12-21-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jason701802 (Post 987099)
The image is reversed, kind of like a mirror. What kind of game can we play with mirrors?

If for some reason the mirror-image does play a role in the game...

What if the game were mirror-imaged? Autonomous mode last, AFTER the 2 minutes of teleoperation?


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