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Just finished skimming (This wasn't hear at Lunch :()

Ummm wow This was not what I was looking for in a hint. I can say this is probably the first Red Herring that be came a hint :P.

In all honesty, I gotta go with the gut on the past pages were more then likely looking at another Smashup Game (First Frenzy V2 If you will).

I like the idea of those are the game pieces, as It could be (Triangle as Tetrad, The Circle could be a number of things) but I don;t believe we've used the square Since Frenzy.

Or It could simply mean that yes it is a FIRST Game, and I at the moment am sticking with that.

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Not only that, the teams live for the chance to see their creation in operation. Win, lose, or draw, it can be exciting to watch your baby compete. (Of course, winning is a lot more fun!) And the more often you run, the better!

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Earlier Someone Mentioned How if you combine the three shapes together you get a cone.

I find that while a little far fetched with this clue, and intriguing Idea. It has not been done before in a shape, and could be relatively hard to work with (depending on how it was set-up and used).

Any Ideas on this theory?

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REMINDER: The Blue Square in the logo does not actually represent a cube. It's actually a Cylinder.

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Referencing this page.

The logo used in Ladder Logic looks similar but appears to have a different aspect ratio. Triple Play looks to be the first game where the logo is the same.

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The logo was redesigned for the 2006 season.

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"Tetraman REMINDER: The Blue Square in the logo does not actually represent a cube. It's actually a Cylinder."

explain?

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The short answer is - looking at a cylinder from the side, it looks like a square.

The long answer deals with an animated video that was shown at World, where the various shapes were used to demonstrate concepts by Archimedes. I don't know if that video is available or not.

Hope this helps!

Steve

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So for anyone coming into this thread right now: we know nothing.

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_39NGKVWYg3.../Picture+3.png

BAM

The logo was created from proof of the Archenemies Principal. (I think I got this right) The volume of a cylinder is the same as a Sphere and Cone of the same height and width.

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I totally forgot about this little fact.

Maybe it's a reference to the Column in the first hint?

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Perhaps the game will have to do with balancing objects? Flashback to 2001 (10th anniversary incidentally) where there were no alliances so all of the teams were cooperating?

Edit: Diabolical Dynamics sounds like it could be related to Loco Motion.

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But that has alot to do with the FTC challenge this year, ballancing on boards.

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and maybe a few of those columns would hold up a second story structure of some sort that was mentioned in the hint 1 thread.

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I don't know where or how to set up huge pillars on the game field. If they are too wide they block vision of the field from a player station or audiance standpoint. Grr...

Dave Lavery where are you? Explain this mess to us! Pleeeeeeease...

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Here is a video FIRSTWorldTube posted May 6, 2010 on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuSDypGi_IA

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He will... in 4 days.




















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I'm pretty sure a Dave Lavery "explanation" will only leave us more confused.

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I'm going with the lyric "now that you can do it let's make a chain" and the fact that the objects in the logo are linked. I think the game pieces will have to be linked/connected/joined together for scoring. Still two alliances, still 3v3.

I'm not a fan of 'bots on opposing alliances linked to each other. I don't think pushing/pulling matches would be an interesting game, and not much strategy is involved (torque wins, and that's it).

How 'bout this - each alliance attaches game pieces from the far end of the field to one alliance member who drags it back to the home zone. Endgame bonus for the other two alliance members climbing on the train.

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Depends on how tall the columns are. 18 inches wouldn't be much different than the humps last year.

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Has no one else noticed that these shapes are ripped straight from the 20th logo and don't look like the normal FIRST logo? Seriously, I looked through the thread and couldn't find that.

I laughed when this hint come out at just how little it tells you. :P

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I showed the hint to my sister and she yelled "How does that help!!!" at my computer. :D

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With talk of another alliance, I can't help but think about "House robots":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lJz-o56uRA

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Hmm? It looks like the same logo to me.

http://usfirst.org/uploadedImages/Ro...ssets/logo.jpg
http://myweb.wit.edu/firstrobotics/First%20Logo.png

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I thought of an interesting idea, combining the idea of Cooperation and balance, what if the alliance each of two goals. Both goals count the same to that alliances score, but if 1 red and 1 blue goal have equal points in them there is a large multiplier on those goals.

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Ah, that's odd. I always thought the FIRST Logo normally had a black outline. Nevermind then!

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I think this might be significant...and I've read the thread and haven't seen it.

Why is the text that is normally right below the logo missing? No FTC. No FLL. No FRC. No FIRST. Normally, that's right below the shapes. Very few times is it missing (typically when there isn't space for it, like on a Firefox tab).

From KarenH: the game name might have the word "FIRST" in it.

The last time that happened, to my knowledge, was 2004, FIRST Frenzy: Raising the Bar. I wonder if they've diabolically twisted that game...

Oh, and I like the cone idea. It's been suggested quite a bit lately...

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each robot will be pulling a trailer that is the goal for the opposing alliance. One trailer for circles, one for squares, one for rectangles.

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Noooooo! Pleeeeaaassssseeee! No trailers! Oh, I hope not! Especially on carpet! No backing up without jackknifing! At least not without a lot of practice!

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im so confused! D:

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The Logo without FIRST below it is 315X223, if you subtract this to numbers you get 92. Being that the first FIRST game was in 1992, reinventing the first game with more difficulty. And possible the FIRST could be in the name of the game, FIRST Loco-Motion.

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Logo Motion. :)

(Name inspired by this post.) Even if it is wrong, I am so singing this all season. Come on baby, do the logo motion. It rocks!

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A small group of us have been cleaning the shop in time for kick-off. Today I went home to get my little sis off the bus.Checked CD, saw the hint, thought the same things as everyone else. I went back to school to the shop and told everyone about it.

They would not believe me! Only until I showed them did they believe me!

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FIRST Logo-Motion sounds nice too, along with FIRST Craze Motion.

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I actually came up with something related when I messed with the image a little. This is what I got (note, this was not 'hidden' in the image, i used a fragment filter).

I was thinking something 3d. Not only are red and blue 3d related, but the image itself is made to look like the three shapes are 3d. Could someone check the colors of standard red/blue 3d glasses and the colors in this image? After all, the color index only carries 4 colors in it in this. Plus, the last hint was produced by 'dimension' records. It took this image i made to make me think of it.

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I wonder if it could be...

Nah, that would just be way too...

Never mind.






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you wouldn't. haha. Now you have me even more confused. :confused:

Judging by this, I would guess that we have hit the nail on the head somewhere, but where? :confused:

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Well, he did ask for that, Dave.

I'll ask for another hint in, oh, about 4 days; 6 if you're really feeling pressed for time to finish that rendering.;)

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combining the first clue with this you get... "logo-motion!" Each member of the alliance gets a circle, triangle, or square. The first team to use all three of these (in the game format, such as scoring, placing, connect, whatever) properly wins!

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At least that's one thing cleared up, thanks for the help Dave!






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The nail or your thumb? :rolleyes:

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I doubt any of you play video games, but there is one that came out quite recently (Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks), and parts of the game consist of you controlling 2 to 3 characters, each separated by walls, where you have to have a player do something to open up a passage for another character, and so on.

The point is that it would be completely logical and quite easy to create a game field similar to Breakaway, cut into 3 pieces, but unlike Breakaway, has walls that prevents the robots from moving through each section.

So imagine this: A game split into 3 separate "fields", each with a robot from each alliance in each field. Your robot would have to find a way to get balls over to the next side, or be able to catch the balls coming over and score points with them.

Interesting idea, huh!

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I can safely say I saw a response along these lines coming from a mile away.

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2849 Therory

1.THeir will be train tracks that we move on
2.this year game will have a reverse mode (switch antonomus and tele op time )
3.The playing pices r a triangle, circle and square
4.yoou hav to sort them objet and untangle them and put the in locomotive trains (carts) the drive to the next oone
OR robot hook together to pick up pieces to help the coopertive bonus at the actcual compettion

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Or howabout the three games that were voted favorite in the 20th anniversery poll? Your robot has to be able to compete in a subversion of each one. :yikes:

The GDC will have made the miniture ones throughout off season, then when the results of the poll come in, they give you those three games. That's why the manual hasn't even be released for encrypted download yet. XD I can dream can't I?

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I like this idea of the separation with walls but I would much rather have some inverted track above so you could transition from one side of the field to the other

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A member on our team brought up the idea that maybe this hint could be that there are going to be three alliances... :/

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Good Idea! That would be fun!!!

WHEN WILL WE HAVE AN ATR COMPETITION??? (All-Terrain Robot) I've always wanted a field with water on the floor, about 2 to 3 feet deep with floating islands, and rocky, mountainous goals, up high in the mountains!! You could have 4 types of robots: Robots who can go in the water, those who travel on land and jump from island to island, those who climb the mountain, and my team's robot: RoboCopter, the flying robot!!!

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I honestly don't think that the FIRST logo is hinting at linking in the sense of the field and alliances. The only possibilities for linking would be the game objects themselves. My random guess that I came up with over the summer would be that they're going to combine an aspect of every past game. The linking in terms of locomotion along with the symbols in the FIRST logo linking together support my theory of linking all the games together. The logo could also be trying to remind of us its the 20th anniversary, which supports my idea further. But eh, who knows? (besides Dave Lavery and the GDC :yikes: ) On a side note, some of the ideas have been extremely far-fetched; let's try and stay a little rational here :rolleyes:

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3 alliances with 2 teams on each? Or the standard 3 teams? That would be interesting!

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He brought up the idea of the 3 alliances with 3 teams on each. and the teams would be the normal Red and Blue with an additional White...

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More than you know.

3-alliance (OK, 3 single teams) games lead to the 2-alliance games we know and love. Seems that the "weaker" teams kept pairing up against the "strongest" team in a given match. 1 strong team isn't quite a match for 2 weak teams, so the strong teams lost quite a lot. It could not be proved that the weaker teams colluded/allied...but it couldn't be disproved either. The result? Alliances were required starting in 1999.

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this was discussed earlier in the thread (i know its a huge thread but try and read it anyway before posting).
The response to the notion went as follows:
.....which i completely 100% agree with

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You know what would be fun? A game on a GIGANTIC field, with 2 alliances, with 10 teams on each alliance! That would mix up the games A LOT!!!

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First hint - locomotion
second hint - interlocking pieces
conclusion - train game

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Spot on.

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....yea. :rolleyes:

Alrighty. I'll post some Sketchup fields tonight of some ideas.

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I'm hoping though that it's interlocking GAME pieces, not robots. Interlocking robots would be interesting as an "end of game" mission, but for the whole game? That's rediculous!

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I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet:

The logo is missing the TM sign in the lower right hand corner. All the official FIRST Logos either have an (R) or a TM.

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The two most logical guesses I've seen so far are:
Train Game: Locomotion and interlocked shapes. Not too far of a stretch.
Something with cones: Square base, circular shape, triangle profile.
Trains of cones!?!?!?

P.S. The gdc has never given us the most logical hints, so this is all shooting in the dark, of course.

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I'm not sure about making "trains of cones", but if there are cones, I think they would be similar to those orange caution cones you see on the street. That means that we may have to pick them up (maybe place them on a train?)

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This is the only FIRST game i could find with the logo used. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvOI3WmYPas

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Let's face it, the train is definiatly a must, or at least something related to trains or train terminology. We know this from the hints and Dave's most auspicious choice of a profile picture. XD So besides that, what can we think of ignoring anything already said?

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Please read the thread before posting.

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It makes sense
to tie it in with the history of first:
Tetras for the triangle
Some sore of ball for the circle (oversized tennis ball?)
and the storage boxes from 2003

Hint Craze
 

I do not get why you guys are wasting time and energy trying to figure this out. even if you Figure it out, you would never know till kickoff! (and just to put this outthere, i agree with the train theory)

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Wouldn't it be great if the game name was "revealed" by a typo?

Logo Motion: you have to get objects in goals that are somehow related to a moving FIRST logo. Maybe lights go on and off, or goals open and close. Or maybe the goals - shaped like circle, square and triangle - move around.

Edit: I think the train angle is the ultimate red herring.

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What about this: 3 symbols, 3 teams on each alliance! What if each team in an alliance was given a certain symbol, and at the end of the match they had to line up to make the FIRST symbol!!!

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More beating around the bush. my advive, sit tight and wait for kickoff,

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We know this i just wild guessing, but it helps us with the wait!

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There could be elements used form this game used, that would very interesting to see robots coming off of a spring loaded platform on to the field. Different playing field surfaces mentioned in Hint 1 Thread would be fun and a test to all teams.

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Or spring-loaded walls on the sides that you could use to launch yourself!

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Going back on the idea that the three shapes represent the three game peices.

If anyone remembers, back in I think June ( Bill Posted that the GDC wanted students, Alumnist, Mentors etc. to e-mail them about what they wanted to see in next years game. I sent them an e-mail and said how the king of the hill part of Stack Attack would be a good element to return. I'm hoping that based of of this theory, Stack Attack would return in some way or form.

Here's my e-mail just in case any of what I asked for makes it in :P

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Thats not a bad idea. Maybe there are lights above the goals like in 2007 that go off and on and each team has 3 goals: 1 for scoring triangle game pieces, 1 for circle game pieces, and 1 for square game pieces. But you can only score points when the logo above the goal is lit up(of course in autonomous all the goals would be lit up). Building a robot to score 3 different game pieces in a match, wouldnt that be a treat to build.

To build off this idea. Maybe it would be split into time slots within the match more like 2006, where triangles can get scored during the first period, then the circles, then the squares, then all 3. IF you did end up doing that, though, you would have to raise the points up more and more for the harder objects to score. Like circles would be worth 1pt, then squares worth 2pts and triangles worth 3pts, etc...

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Like turbo boosting over the alliance, or maybe a game piece.

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A lot of us enjoy the hints and the guessing part of them. We enjoy that much like a puzzle. It doesn't matter if we are right, wrong, close, or totally off. For us, it is fun and provides an opportunity to think and dream together.

There's nothing wrong with that. For those who do not enjoy it, don't read the threads but don't spoil the fun for the rest of us.

Jane

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Well, if that's true, then we know what we're looking for! Dave just said what he'd like to see, and what elements of gameplay that he wanted! He also told us that he was trying to "renovate" a previous game. So, with that in mind, let's look at all previous games, especially the ones he mentioned, and see how or if they tie into the FIRST logo, and the first hint with the locomotion theory.

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one idea i concluded form this was that the current FIRST logo (hint picture) is simply an updated rendition of the original FIRST logo from 1992 and the late '90's-'04. seems to me like this clue if pointing to a game that is an updated rendition of a previous FIRST game.
the other idea is that from here (http://www.usfirst.org/roboticsprogr...aspx?id=18620#) you can see that every game that featured the FIRST logo on the game image had either FIRST or FRC under the logo except...1992.

on another note from the first clue... the word locomotion was used. there were really only 2 games that have given a type of "crazy" motion those being 1992 and 2009 (please no more regolith...).

topped with the tennis ball red herring, my money is on a 1992 remake game.

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Maybe the cone could actually be the field element. We could have a very low sloping cone in the center of the field. Maybe the dimensions would be 20' diameter with a 1' height. The sphere is a 4" tennis ball and the cylinder is the goal(s).

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The first thing I noticed about this logo is that it does not have a trademark or a copyright symbol like every other instance of the logo, but is otherwise identical to the official one.

Why would they pull the TM off this image?

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Maybe the sloping cone is a spot where you can get extra points! Maybe if your team has something on the top of the slop, such as a colored game piece or a robot, you get points! It would also be interesting because your game piece/robot could fall off!

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That;s been mentioned before, and has been marked as nothing. It means nothing, so fogetabouti! (Forget about it)

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After watching that video, I am now convinced it's a water game.

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Are you serious? Robots and water? THAT'S AWESOME!!!!

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Au contraire!

FIRST would not release a document with their logo missing parts without a very good reason. Remember, their logo is trademarked/copyrighted, and as such the proper format needs to be used (i.e., copyright/trademark logos as necessary).

If those items are missing--as they are--and there is no organizational tag (also part of the logo for all intents and purposes), and this is on a logo that FIRST itself has put out, then there must be a very good reason.

If an organization violates its own logo-usage guidelines, there is either a very good reason or someone has a lot of explaining and fixing to do. I go with very good reason. What that reason is remains to be seen.

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Maybe you could move, or push the goal (cylinder) and place it on top of the cone in the center for bonus points. The goal could have a concave dug out in the bottom.

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Hello everybody,

I did not bother reading the hundreds of posts before mine because I know what the game hints mean.

Summary:
Game hint one- a flipped picture of a singer who's most famous song is also the name a video game (Locomotion).
Game hint two- FIRST Logo in low resolution.

My conclusion: the flipped picture is symbolic of the fact that this is FIRST's 20th anniversary and this game will go back to the beginnings of the league. The first competition FIRST held was a game in which contestants collected tennis balls, which is very similar to the game Locomotion (see the connection?).
The FIRST logo in low resolution could also represent the history of the league.

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Yes, because the logo with the TM gives away the whole game! Nobody has been able to find a viable solution to what that can mean for two whole threads! Unless you find some significant meaning, then it's signified as meaningless.

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This is a moment at which I really wish Mr. Lavery would just come in and tell us that is was a goof of Copyright left off before I go crazy:rolleyes:

Back to my scrutinizing of the hint.

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agree with above.
also, does anyone have a picture of the original hint? i cant seem to find it anywhere.

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I'm thinking of ways for the TM symbol to mean something, but the only thing I can think of is someone other than FIRST is doing something for the competition.

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Your Request

http://www.usfirst.org/uploadedImage...20Hint%201.jpg

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All hints can be found at usfirst.org

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Excuse me, but it's one thread.

The FIRST logo with the TM would mean nothing--it's the FIRST logo. The absence of the TM (or anything else other than the shapes) means that it is NOT the FIRST logo as it would normally be seen. The game logo is not the FIRST logo; the game logo would give away the game.

The significance is that SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THERE IS NOT. What the missing thing is is the confusing thing.

...Wait a minute. The first hint was an album cover, reversed, and with the title removed. The second hint is the FIRST logo, normal, with thecompetition/organization tag and the trademark removed.

Both hints have something removed; an identifier or title. Could the game involve removing something from somewhere on the field?

--Don't go looking for no significance where there might be some significance that you can't see.

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I think it's a good bet that there is going to be some kind of blast from the past involved in this game. There's a lot of evidence pointing there.

However, I don't think there will be trains and I don't think the logo has to do with the game pieces. If it did, my money would be on the cylinder since the other two "add up" to it. Somehow, though, I don't feel like the GDC would be that obvious.

I have noticed something that I haven't seen anybody else mention. Look at how we reacted to this hint. Before the hint, I kind of took the logo for granted. I knew about its origins from the video about Archimedes, but it was still just a logo. But, as soon as they posted it as a hint, we all started re-examining the logo (a game element so crazy it makes us re-examine FIRST???)--which the GDC could easily anticipate us doing--looking into its history and origins (blast from the past game)--also something the GDC could anticipate us doing--and interpreting the symbolism of the shapes, the linkage, and even the color scheme (I got nothin').

I would like to think said crazy game element would be treadmills, which I believe someone either mentioned in this thread or the first game hint thread. It would fit in with the locomotion idea without using trains. But who knows? It might be that our robots go on the walls instead of the floor.

Fuel for the fire.

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I don't mean to be rude! Sorry! The only thing I could think of is that someone besides FIRST is doing something for the competition. Your idea is good too! Maybe each alliance can take something away from the opposing alliance!

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Shall we connect the logo, or the anniversary to the game?

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the most obvious is that It would maybe be some recreation of the 1st FIRST game since it is their anniversairy. Another thing is that it could be a linkage game because of "Little Eva" and her song "Loco - Motion". Possibly all teams on the alliance's robots are connected together to do some sort of race, or an obstacle course or some sort of train design to push or pull down a track.

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Maybe the Human element might be removed from this years game as mentioned in Hint 1 Thread, A full Autonomous game. Robots just relaying sensors and good programming.

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Sounds good for us programmers, but that would make a lot of people who run the robot and are the human player quit robotics, so that's probobly not going to happen. PLUS, it could result in a lot of crashes, and would take the excitement out of the game.