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JamesCH95 07-01-2011 10:45

First team with swerve drive?
 
I have been wracking my brain trying to think of the first team in FRC with a swerve drive system, can you help me out?

Edit: why not also mecanum, "kiwi", or other omni-drive setups.

thefro526 07-01-2011 10:47

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 992360)
I have been wracking my brain trying to think of the first team in FRC with a swerve drive system, can you help me out?

Earliest one I know of was Team 47's in 2000.

http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/12949

I believe someone had one in 1998 or 1999 but I can't remember who it was.

Jared Russell 07-01-2011 10:58

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
First mecanum drive in FRC I believe was in 2005, team 357 (showing my regional bias here...I want to say other teams had them in 2005 as well).

Joe G. 07-01-2011 11:00

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jared341 (Post 992367)
First mecanum drive in FRC I believe was in 2005, team 357 (showing my regional bias here...I want to say other teams had them in 2005 as well).

190 also had one that year

Al Skierkiewicz 07-01-2011 11:16

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
I remember the big stir when Chief Delphi lifted up the hood on their robot that year. It was a coaxial drive as I remember. A lot of chain running around the top of the chassis.

JVN 07-01-2011 11:30

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Chief Delphi 1998 had a 2-wheel swerve. This was the first swerve drive...
Sometimes referred to as "delphi drive" in the old days.

-John

JamesCH95 07-01-2011 12:51

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Great info. Any idea when the first 4-wheel swerve was made?

Ether 07-01-2011 12:55

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Is there a shorter name, widely understood within the CD community, for a 4-wheel independent-steering and independent-driven drivetrain, with unlimited rotation of the wheels and sensors, and no gaps in the sensor feedback?

If not, could a longtimer here please invent one? It sure would be useful when discussing control methods.



JVN 07-01-2011 12:58

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 992406)
Is there a shorter name, widely understood within the CD community, for a 4-wheel independent-steering and independent-driven drivetrain, with unlimited rotation of the wheels and sensors, and no gaps in the sensor feedback?

If not, could a longtimer here please invent one? It sure would be useful when discussing control methods.


The Unicorn drive?

EricH 07-01-2011 12:58

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
I don't think there is one, so:

How about a "pod" drivetrain, where each wheel is in a pod and each pod is independent of the others?

BTW, don't just limit it to 4. 16 has done a 3-wheel pod drive for years.

Might not be unlimited rotation, but it sure gets the job done.

Alan Anderson 07-01-2011 12:59

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 992406)
Is there a shorter name, widely understood within the CD community, for a 4-wheel independent-steering and independent-driven drivetrain, with unlimited rotation of the wheels and sensors, and no gaps in the sensor feedback?

If not, could a longtimer here please invent one? It sure would be useful when discussing control methods.

Some systems with most of those features have the name "pod" in them. Given the number of hypothetical features listed, though, I'm tempted to dub it a "spherical chicken drive".

Chris is me 07-01-2011 13:02

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Theory Drive, because you'll never get a robot like that in practice :rolleyes:

Ether 07-01-2011 13:09

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JVN (Post 992407)
The Unicorn drive?

Well, that's what it is then, christened with JVN gravitas.

This will save me a whole lot of typing.



AdamHeard 07-01-2011 13:18

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
The closest I know a team came to this task would be 469 in 2007.

4wd independently steered, independently driven (and 3 speed shifters).

However, it was motor in module so was not infinite rotation.

They did nail the control aspect well, which few teams with such drives do.

Chris Hibner 07-01-2011 13:25

Re: First team with swerve drive?
 
ChiefDelphi did 4wd swerve for the 1999 game, as well as the 2001 game.


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