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karebear95 06-02-2011 23:37

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Hey guys,

I know there is a lot of discussion going around about Will.I.Am and his FIRST hat. Although he did not wear the hat Dean Kamen provided him with, Will.I.Am sent out a message about the standards of education. Personally, I think it is fantastic that he changed up the song just for that message. He set the stage for FIRST. It is our job as members of FIRST to go out and spread the message. We're the ones trying to inspire other youth of our generation to join in on such a fantastic program. We are helping to foster a generation full of youth who are willing to put aside the "nerd" stereotype and work towards a greater tomorrow. Now, with this being said, I think we owe a lot of thanks to Will.I.Am for his message.:)

Lil' Lavery 06-02-2011 23:37

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcmolloy (Post 1017334)
For some, this is awesome to know that recognition was "possibly" established about something that they care about while millions of people viewed the performance.

Personally, I thought that the attempt was great and important for us that knew about it. It kind of gave us a prelude as to what should come in the near future.

We care because this is a part of our lives that has allowed us to grow and become better than anything we could have ever imagined. That recognition has showed us the light for the years ahead for FIRST.

Getting recognition from the very entertainment obsession that FIRST is trying to replace shouldn't be anyone's real goal. As a tool to help grow FIRST or a cool bonus, sure. But getting upset at the fact that it wasn't as grand or direct as you had hoped is ridiculous.

If you think this is the light for the years ahead, you're fooling yourself. This is the light ahead and is far more important than anything will.i.am can do for the program.

JABianchi 06-02-2011 23:39

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s_forbes (Post 1017239)
"In America we need to get things straight
Obama lets get these kids educated
create jobs so the country stays stimulated
This is dedicated to all the innovators"

Will.I.Am changed the verse of his mainstream breakthrough song, "Where is the Love?" to talk about
1. the importance of Education,
2. which lead to good jobs in our economy
3. which are fueled by "Innovators"

THIS is what FIRST is about! More so than Logos and hats and cute acroynms ("First things First"). As Dean likes to tell us, FIRST isn't about building FRC robots, it's about building innovators.

Hats off to a (generally) positive artist who is willing to publicly praise our country's innovators during a celebration of athleticism...


ps. Compare his original lines to what he rapped during the halftime show:

Original:
"Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK..."

Revised:
"In America we need to get things straight
Obama lets get these kids educated
create jobs so the country stays stimulated
This is dedicated to all the innovators"

rcmolloy 06-02-2011 23:40

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1017343)
If you think this is the light for the years ahead, you're fooling yourself. This is the light ahead and is far more important than anything will.i.am can do for the program.

Absolutely! The "light" reference was simply referring to people in the media catching on.

cire 06-02-2011 23:43

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I think he did a great job. It would have been really awkward if they did anything besides sing. Did you want them to do a "go to usfirst.org" logo with the people dancing? That would also have been a total sellout move. He doesnt have full control of the whole show, just having it on his hat is a good gesture. I think the changing of lyrics is much more important overall, that was awesome.

fox46 06-02-2011 23:43

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Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but I think the "Logo" on the helmet was in fact XLV for "superbowl XLV" However, check out one of the interviews before the show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrMP34kqlQ at 1:35 .
A nice little mention of "the science and engineering" that goes into that kind of a show.

blackiceskier 06-02-2011 23:55

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcmolloy (Post 1017348)
Absolutely! The "light" reference was simply referring to people in the media catching on.

While the lights were just a stretch did any one notice their entrance they descended on the 4 towers that are on this years field. That really was a shout out to the FIRST community without saying anything.

Kevin Kolodziej 06-02-2011 23:58

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Blurry reflections and a general comment about the state of the country IS NOT in any way a plug or endorsement for FIRST. :eek:

The lyrics ARE a message that WE as the FIRST COMMUNITY can stand behind though. Whether or not Dean had any influence on him to use these words or not is anyone's guess, but I highly doubt it. He didn't speak at kickoff because he saw a FIRST robot and had an epiphany but because he saw a program that agrees with his own beliefs about what is important. Believe it or not, FIRST is not the only organization that promotes STEM education.

What some entertainer does or says isn't going to teach a student how to use a screwdriver, design a gearbox, code a subroutine, or wire a circuit. WE can and WE will. Stop arguing about this and GO DO IT.

FRC4ME 07-02-2011 00:25

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fox46 (Post 1017352)
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but I think the "Logo" on the helmet was in fact XLV for "superbowl XLV" However, check out one of the interviews before the show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrMP34kqlQ at 1:35 .
A nice little mention of "the science and engineering" that goes into that kind of a show.

Alright alright, I guess it's not the logo.

Hey, what did you expect from the same people who try to decode the game hints? :p

I still wonder if "first things first" had anything to do with FIRST, though. Especially coming right after the sentence, "this is dedicated to the innovators." Perhaps we'll never know.

waitwhat? 07-02-2011 01:25

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
I'm not sure, perhaps some of you have already stated this but I personally think that when Dean was hinting at the Black Eyed Peas and what they might bring up in the super bowl half time show, he was necessarily saying that there was going to be a direct plug to F.I.R.S.T. Rather an attempt to bring to light what the program is all about. I think that the change in lyrics did that, telling the world population that we need to work towards a brighter tomorrow.

As far as the "first things first" part, I think that could have gone either way, maybe that was just a catch phrase that Will.I.Am wanted to use, bringing attention to what our true priorities should be, OR, it could have been a clever way of putting a shout out to the FIRST community. Either way, I think that the right message was put out there.

Just my 2 cents

Justin Montois 07-02-2011 06:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fox46 (Post 1017352)
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but I think the "Logo" on the helmet was in fact XLV for "superbowl XLV"...

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRC4ME (Post 1017380)
Alright alright, I guess it's not the logo....

Can you find me a picture of the Super Bowl XLV logo in Red,White and Blue?
Oh, and it's written with the "L" cutting through both the "X" and the "V"?

As skeptical as I was, i'm sure it was indeed the logo. I mean come on.. http://tinyurl.com/6fjt3am


I think it's cool that it was there, and I agree with whats been said, i'm happy it wasn't a blatant endorsement.

MagiChau 07-02-2011 06:24

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fox46 (Post 1017352)
Sorry to burst anyone's bubble but I think the "Logo" on the helmet was in fact XLV for "superbowl XLV" However, check out one of the interviews before the show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUrMP34kqlQ at 1:35 .
A nice little mention of "the science and engineering" that goes into that kind of a show.

No matter how much I look at the pictures, that is definitely a white circle, which is not an L.

demosthenes2k8 07-02-2011 08:46

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I don't know, personally I think that people were already biased toward thinking that it would be/wouldn't be the logo, so they're making themselves believe that it was/wasn't.

That said, it doesn't seem like the logo to me. Too long and angled.

thefro526 07-02-2011 08:52

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I watched the Super Bowl just to see the half time show. I didn't see the FIRST logo, and the pictures I have seen of it aren't the greatest. Yes, there are red, white and blue shapes on Will.I.Am's helmet - but they don't look like the FIRST logo to me, and if they don't look like the logo to someone who knows what they are looking for, then they sure won't look like the logo to some random person.

I did like how he re-wrote the lyrics to "where is the love" to talk about innovation and education, but it seemed more directed to Obama and his State of the Union speech.

Thermal 07-02-2011 08:57

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People need to realize that dedicating 4-6 lines of song lyrics to what FIRST stands for means a whole lot more, and does a whole lot more for FIRST than him wearing a logo which nobody knows what it stands for.

Saying that people need to be educated and innovators will lead the way is a more powerful message than a triangle, circle, and square.

Brandon Holley 07-02-2011 09:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526 (Post 1017471)
I watched the Super Bowl just to see the half time show. I didn't see the FIRST logo, and the pictures I have seen of it aren't the greatest. Yes, there are red, white and blue shapes on Will.I.Am's helmet - but they don't look like the FIRST logo to me, and if they don't look like the logo to someone who knows what they are looking for, then they sure won't look like the logo to some random person.

I did like how he re-wrote the lyrics to "where is the love" to talk about innovation and education, but it seemed more directed to Obama and his State of the Union speech.


I am certain the intention of the logo on the helmet wasn't for the average viewer to see it and then go research "what it means". I'm willing to bet Will.I.Am simply did that as a subtle shoutout to all of the FIRSTers who watched kickoff. It's nothing more than a tip of the cap to FIRST and an "inside joke".

The real message was the lyric change, which was nice. This wasn't designed to change the world or bring FIRST into every living room, it was simply a small spin on a mainstream act to get part of a message out.

Either way, thanks to Will.I.Am for doing it, and let's all move on.

-Brando

Goofee691 07-02-2011 09:33

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I have to commend Will.i.am for doing what he did do, he went beyond FIRST as a robotics competition and instead left a message to the world about innovating and changing the world and he included FIRST in a subtle way.

From what I can tell his helmet did show the FIRST logo every so often and I find that cool as he used some nice technology to do that with the helmet.

here are some screenshots from the 1080i stream of the superbowl
http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...%20am%20FIRST/

I think anyone who has been hating on him and this performance should apologize or it makes us look bad as a community and counteract what will.i.am did do.

while it would have been nice if he had used the hat dean gave him I think this is actually better based on his outfit

Nick Lawrence 07-02-2011 10:51

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will.i.am did his best to fit us into an insanely tight schedule.

I think he did a wonderful job.

People, think carefully before you post.

We can find every single little detail in a game hint photo, but many of us missed the FIRST logo scrolling across his helmet every few seconds. Isn't that funny.

-Nick

itrvd 07-02-2011 10:58

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weinertj (Post 992956)
So, who wants to make him a robot?

maybe it can sing better then him!

2bkrul 07-02-2011 11:38

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by itrvd (Post 1017540)
maybe it can sing better then him!

Dont you mean Fergie :rolleyes:

Gary Dillard 07-02-2011 11:54

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
My favorite part was when Brandon came up from the stage and played Sweet Child O' Mine.

tdramble 07-02-2011 12:02

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
First of all, I don't care whether or not will.i.am wore something FIRST related on tv or not, he is not obligated to. I was happy to hear his lyric change, not that he did it for FIRST, but I feel it shows some of will.i.am's beliefs do in fact align with those of FIRST and the partnership/relationship between will.i.am and FIRST might be genuine and not superficial like some may have originally thought from the kickoff.

I definitely doubted the initial pictures claiming to be the FIRST logo on his helmet, but I wan't looking at it properly, it isn't the entire logo, only the top of it. I am absolutely convinced that we are seeing the FIRST logo in this picture, but I am not convinced the photo is genuine, I sure hope the first logo was not added in by someone with sick photoshop skills. I have photoshopped my own picture showing the FIRST logo superimposed onto the will.i.am photo so you can see where the logo is exactly as I am sure skeptics just can't see it. As I said, I did not see it for the longest time and thought people were crazy for thinking they saw it.

I can't believe I wasted time photoshopping that photo, now let's move on and build some robots and forget about will.i.am


Dargel1625 07-02-2011 14:01

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Given the circumstances, I think he gave a great shout out to first with shouting "FIRST things FIRST" and changing the lyrics of where is the love and having the logo scrolling on the side of his head. For all of those who actually expected him to wear the hat, he couldn't anyway because performers at the halftime show aren't even allowed to wear any articles of clothing that promote anything besides themselves. The halftime show committee doesn't want it to be free advertising for someone, so he really had no option to wear the hat.

Lledargo 07-02-2011 16:17

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
I find it kind of funny, as I read this thread the lyrics, "you're so vain, you probably think this song is about you.", are running through my head.

It seems slightly possible he may have had a FIRST logo on his helmet. I however highly doubt the lyric change was made for FIRST. Instead it was probably addressed to Obama and the government, seeing as how the lyric change mentions Obama, not FIRST.

Will I am also had a job to entertain people, which he fulfilled by singing and dancing. He should not have felt at all obligated to mention FIRST, as it is our job to advertise ourselves.

JohnFogarty 07-02-2011 18:13

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It's Real. CALM DOWN.

fox46 07-02-2011 18:40

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Hmm that actually is pretty convincing! I'm still skeptical though. Can somebody please post this in Q&A? Maybe we'll find out for sure in the next team update :rolleyes:

Libby K 07-02-2011 19:15

Re: Superbowl + will.i.am + FRC hat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fox46 (Post 1017896)
Hmm that actually is pretty convincing! I'm still skeptical though. Can somebody please post this in Q&A? Maybe we'll find out for sure in the next team update :rolleyes:

If you check the FIRST twitter page(s) you will see lots of confirmation. FIRST is expanding its reach into social networks and it would do teams a lot of good to follow them.

KelliV 07-02-2011 19:41

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The STEM message that he inserted was a great way to reach the masses. I'm also glad that he kept his hat (or helmet?) on during his post show interviews. You could clearly see the FIRST logo start as flashing pixels then becoming clear on Entertainment Tonight's coverage today. Big thanks to will.i.am.


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