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team1631 08-01-2011 13:33

More than one minibot on robot
 
I could not find a limit on the number of minbots a robot can carry. I was thinking if the weight allowed could you put a backup minibot on the robot.

angelawence11 08-01-2011 13:44

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
I think that would be fine, but you can only actually deploy one (i think)

EricH 08-01-2011 13:49

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Definitely one for Q&A.

However: most references to the minibot are singular definite (the minibot), and you only get 10 seconds to deploy and run one. It's highly unlikely that you could deploy 2 in the same match. Common sense says that you will probably only want one on the robot (and at least one backup in the pit or on a different robot).

RandAlThor 08-01-2011 13:56

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Maybe you could deploy a minibot on each of your alliance's posts if the other teams don't have minibots

EricH 08-01-2011 14:05

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandAlThor (Post 992978)
Maybe you could deploy a minibot on each of your alliance's posts if the other teams don't have minibots

In 10 seconds?

The time makes it very difficult to do. Deploy (you've already lined up), cross, line up, deploy, and assume defense slows you down during the crossing (because messing with a robot contacting a base is an automatic DQ). Can the second minibot make it up before the score won't be counted?

Question for Q&A: Given the many last-second minibot deployments, will a minibot that reaches the top after the buzzer still count? Personally, I'd go with "yes" (<G68>), up until 10 seconds (same rule). That makes the chance of 2 much more feasible, but then you have to worry about legality of 2 minibots.

davidthefat 08-01-2011 14:11

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
I assume you can try shooting it all the way across the field and hope they hook on. Kinda like a Hail Mary pass. You just need to make your bot very accurate and very rugged.

Captain Cox 08-01-2011 14:29

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidthefat (Post 992995)
I assume you can try shooting it all the way across the field and hope they hook on. Kinda like a Hail Mary pass. You just need to make your bot very accurate and very rugged.

I like the optimism of your idea, but you have to deploy the robot at the base of the post.

web_master_dpep 08-01-2011 17:02

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by angelawence11 (Post 992967)
I think that would be fine, but you can only actually deploy one (i think)

When looking at scoring it talks about a fourth bot on a pole being worth 10 points. That would imply, at least to me, that you could infact deploy two, if you had the time.

GaryVoshol 08-01-2011 17:09

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by web_master_dpep (Post 993238)
When looking at scoring it talks about a fourth bot on a pole being worth 10 points. That would imply, at least to me, that you could infact deploy two, if you had the time.

That's the minibot that gets to the top of a pole fourth - lost the race.

Karibou 08-01-2011 17:15

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Originally Posted by torihoelscher (Post 993250)
We are only allowed one on the robot. They cannot be past 15 pounds adding more than one will make the robot really heavy. My team was thinking the same thing but we are only allowed one. We are allowed to make more than one but we cannot have more than one on the robot.


Tori

Is there a rule that states this?

Waffles 08-01-2011 17:16

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torihoelscher (Post 993250)
We are only allowed one on the robot. They cannot be past 15 pounds adding more than one will make the robot really heavy. My team was thinking the same thing but we are only allowed one. We are allowed to make more than one but we cannot have more than one on the robot.


Tori

Sorry, can you reference a rule point from the manual? I mean, it's still good for Q&A otherwise XD

Thanks ;)

Radical Pi 08-01-2011 17:18

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by web_master_dpep (Post 993238)
When looking at scoring it talks about a fourth bot on a pole being worth 10 points. That would imply, at least to me, that you could infact deploy two, if you had the time.

Are you referring to <G67>? That states that the 4th robot to trigger the target earns 10 points. It has nothing to do with number of robots on poles

GaryVoshol 08-01-2011 17:20

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
And I found this definition:
Quote:

HOSTBOT – the electromechanical assembly used to carry the MINIBOT. (ROBOT – MINIBOT = HOSTBOT). If a TEAM plays a MATCH without a MINIBOT, then the HOSTBOT is the ROBOT.
If you subtract a MINIBOT from the ROBOT, what's left is a HOSTBOT. So any "second minibot" would become part of that HOSTBOT.

I imagine the GDC thought they specified one MINIBOT; there will probably be a clarification.

Cyberphil 08-01-2011 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Cox (Post 993015)
I like the optimism of your idea, but you have to deploy the robot at the base of the post.

Not really at the base. The deployment line is 18 inches above the base of the large part of the tower, which means it is a total of 30 inches above the floor. For it to be optimal, you would deploy it as fast and as high as possible to it gets to the top the fastest.

Karibou 08-01-2011 17:22

Re: More than one minibot on robot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by torihoelscher (Post 993264)
We found it inside the manual. Unsure where. My whole team was talking about this.

Then we're going to have to take it as unknown unless a specific rule is cited, unfortunately :/ (not that we don't trust you - it's just that in a competition where the written rules are non-negotiable, our rule has to be "Cite a rule or it didn't happen")


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