Max Score Speculation
 

I came to a figure of 158 as the highest hypothetical score in a single match. Related math to double check. Don't forget to check my math or figure out a way to make it higher.

18 Pts for scoring all three ubertubes on the top row (6pts per ubertube x 3)
Assuming such, All 6 rows must have logo bonus.
Grid 1 Row 1 3pt6pt3pt * 2 for row bonus = 24
Grid 2 Row 1 6pt3pt6pt * 2 for row bonus = 30
Grids 1 and 2 Row 2 2pt2pt2pt * 2 row bonus = 12 and 12
Grids 1 and 2 Row 3 1pt1pt1pt * 2 row bonus = 6 and 6

Race 1st place bonus = 30
Race 2nd Place Bonus = 20

18+24+30+12+12+6+6+30+20= 158 Maximum points.

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I believe that figure should be much higher because you can double stack tubes. There is a maximum of two tubes per post, so you could have two logos on one row.

I could be wrong, but that is what I have garnered so far from looking through the manual.

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Good point. Didn't think about that. That's the base figure I came up to without double stacking. We'll have to investigate as the FIRST site comes back up.

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rule <G63> if the GAME PIECES are HANGING from a single SCORING PEG, the outermost GAME PIECE will be counted for scoring purposes.
section 3.3 pg 9
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because of this, the max score should be 158, this is the same number we figured out here.

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Ahh, thanks for the clarification. Missed that one.

158 looks good then!

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top row(first grid): 3 uber tubes in back: 6 x 3 = 18, 6 for each tube on top of them: 6 x 3 = 18, and double the top row for logo bonus 18 x 2 = 36, so top row: 18 + 36 = 54 points
top row(second grid): 3 points per tube, double for logo bonus: 3 x 3 x 2 = 18 points
middle rows: 2 points per tube, 3 tubes per row (2 rows) and double for the logo bonus: 2 x 3 x 2 x 2 = 24 points
bottom rows: 1 point per tube, 3 tubes per row (2 rows) and double for the logo bonus: 1 x 2 x 3 x 2 = 12 points

with the top two mini bots at: 30 and 20, 30 + 20 = 50 points

so the top score being: 50 + 12 + 24 + 18 + 54 = 158, so you were correct with the 158.

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The most interesting thing about that, is in an insanely high scoring game, having two good minibots will net you 32% of the points. And that number just goes up the lower the total score...

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We're trying to determine if the logo bonus doubles the points that the ubertubes scored from the autonomous period.

Rule <G66> states "If three LOGO PIECES form a LOGO, the assigned points from the SCORING PEGS in that row of that SCORING GRID are given as an additional LOGO BONUS, effectively doubling the score of the row."

Notice that it states "the assigned points from the SCORING PEGS" and not simply "the PEG SCORE". As it is written, we are thinking that the logo bonus would double both the original ubertube points (from <G64>) as well as the peg score (from <G65>).

What do you think?

Andrew Merrill, team 1540, the Flaming Chickens

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Assuming the minibot from either the 1st or 2nd place finisher can come back down from the pole, what if then the 3rd alliance member deploys its minibot and reaches the target before anyone from the opposing alliance? That's another 15 points, increasing the max total to 173!

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From what I saw of the field, this wouldn't work since each tower locks to 1st-4th place once it is triggered, and I doubt this can be reset (or we'd have minibots going up then down then up then down to get 1st-4th place)

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In response to the question about Ubertubes being doubled in a row...

G62 states that Autonomous scores are calculated immediately at the end of the Autonomous period so their values could not be doubled.

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Our programmer created a score calculator for the pegs including Ubertubes, and logo combinations.

You can find it here:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=88417

I hope this helps you all.

By the way, with this calculator, the max score it once again 158, with 3 Ubertubes, and a FIRST logo on each set of pegs and winning 1st and 2nd in the end game.

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Uber-6 Uber-6 Uber-6: 18

Grid 1 Row 3: (if all ubers are on this row)
Tri.-6 Circle-6 Square-6: 18
then double for Logo = 36

Grid 2 Row 3: 18 (if logo)

Grid 1&2 Row 2: 12 (if logo)

Grid 1&2 Row 1: 6 (if logo)

You can tie for first in the MINIBOT race so you could potentially get 60pts for the end game.

Total: 36+18+18+12+12+6+6+60=168pts!

Granted this is highly unlikely but, it could still happen.
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Logo does not double ubers
Ubers are in auton score, Logos can only affect Teleop score.

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I've reviewed the manual a few times now, and I am 97% positive that the 18 received by placing ubertubes on during the autonomous period counts solely towards an autonomous score.
This would be added in the following fashion:
autonomous score + teleop score + race score
Thus the original figure is correct. (Although I suppose a technical error *could* occur with the minibot race, but it's doubtful.)