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GCentola 08-01-2011 17:18

Role of Analyst
 
So what are your guys' thoughts of the new human player position? Is he/she like a coach for the entire alliance? Just curious to see what other people think or how you plan to go about it at competitions (what team gets feeders/who gets analyst).

EricH 08-01-2011 17:20

Re: Role of Analyst
 
My personal instinct would be to use the analyst as a communication facilitator/strategy overseer to convey information quickly to each alliance, like a quarterback calling audibles.

CassCity2081 08-01-2011 17:23

Re: Role of Analyst
 
My original thought is that the analyst will help the other human players know what game piece they should give to the robots.

jamie_1930 08-01-2011 17:24

Re: Role of Analyst
 
I'm not very fond of it. Matches require quick thinking and quick action, deliberation and comprimise can turn into time wasters, adding another coach can just worsen these things. I feel like on the field I would rather just utilize the analyst as another set of eyes, tell them to look for certain things and let you know when someones going to go to score a tube or a minibot.

GCentola 08-01-2011 17:24

Re: Role of Analyst
 
like running back and forth with messages between alliances? Changing strategy if something happens or adapting to different situations? I think the job will prove very interesting!

nighterfighter 08-01-2011 17:25

Re: Role of Analyst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CassCity2081 (Post 993278)
My original thought is that the analyst will help the other human players know what game piece they should give to the robots.

But aren't the human players on the other end of the field?

Waffles 08-01-2011 17:27

Re: Role of Analyst
 
The analyst is almost like a secondary coach for the alliance.

A possible role for them is to focus on communication with the feeder in terms of informing them of which piece to feed next, etc.

It's questionable whether feeders/analysts can bring like, signs with them... but there's also hand signals, and of course, FLASHY ROBOT LIGHTS! (if you have the expenses to get fancy!)

...not to mention it'd be a REAL dance party. trololo.

CassCity2081 08-01-2011 17:30

Re: Role of Analyst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nighterfighter (Post 993285)
But aren't the human players on the other end of the field?

Yeah I guess there will have to be hand signals or something but I can not really think of any other reason for them.

Koko Ed 08-01-2011 17:37

Re: Role of Analyst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffles (Post 993289)
The analyst is almost like a secondary coach for the alliance.

Too many coaches dilute the strategy.

Waffles 08-01-2011 17:44

Re: Role of Analyst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 993315)
Too many coaches dilute the strategy.

Sometimes. Although, an extra set of eyes doesn't hurt.

Koko Ed 08-01-2011 17:51

Re: Role of Analyst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Waffles (Post 993333)
Sometimes. Although, an extra set of eyes doesn't hurt.

Three coaches should be more than enough.
You only get two minutes to do what you gotta do so you need to be decisive and precise. One coach on the alliance should be the one making the final strategy decisions and the other two should be doing their part. Human Players should stick to delivering the good and nothing more.
You get too many people talking and it just becomes noise.

Tetraman 08-01-2011 17:55

Re: Role of Analyst
 
It's the question of "What do we do with the third Human Player". If you are scoring on the second stage pegs, you will be reducing your vision. Might be nice to have another set of eyes.

Lil' Lavery 08-01-2011 18:01

Re: Role of Analyst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 993356)
Three coaches should be more than enough.
You only get two minutes to do what you gotta do so you need to be decisive and precise. One coach on the alliance should be the one making the final strategy decisions and the other two should be doing their part. Human Players should stick to delivering the good and nothing more.
You get too many people talking and it just becomes noise.

Because your way to run an alliance is the best? ;)

Koko Ed 08-01-2011 18:05

Re: Role of Analyst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 993368)
Because your way to run an alliance is the best? ;)

Because a human player on our alliance told his driver to go get in the red zone where we playing defense in the finals of our regional. They flipped over and got us a red card and cost us a match.
Human players should not be making decisions. Coaches should be making decisions.

Lil' Lavery 08-01-2011 18:14

Re: Role of Analyst
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 993380)
Because a human player on our alliance told his driver to go get in the red zone where we playing defense in the finals of our regional. They flipped over and got us a red card and cost us a match.
Human players should not be making decisions. Coaches should be making decisions.

What's so sacred about the coaching position? If an analyst or human player is trained effectively and ready to make decisions, let them make decisions. Sounds to me it was just a case of that human player not being prepared properly to make that call, not an indictment of all human players' decision making abilities.


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