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EricH 09-01-2011 12:47

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
The only legal way to block minibots is to keep their hostbots from touching the tower/base. Once they touch the base, the best you can expect is a penalty; the other option is a red card if you continue to try and hamper them.

nighterfighter 09-01-2011 15:25

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
So it is basically the same as last year's end-game....

:rolleyes:

Ryan_Davis 09-01-2011 15:57

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rutzman (Post 994376)
10 penalties. Each penalty is 3 points. That's a 30 point death sentence.

Even better.

Radical Pi 09-01-2011 16:08

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
What if you sat down right in front of the tower between the opponent and the tower? If they're close enough they would have to expend valuable time to go around you, and if they try to push you into the tower it's not a penalty

Erik Huang 09-01-2011 16:29

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tiny Tim (Post 994282)
And how would you do that?

just stop the host bot from getting to the pole. get in his way, pin him, etc

Robert103 09-01-2011 16:39

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
It's within the rules to block another alliance from getting to their tower, so long as that bot isn't touching their tower. You would only need to keep them at a distance and tangle them up long enough to prevent their minibot from having time to reach the top. Remember, endgame this year is only 10 seconds, so even by delaying them for a couple seconds, at the very least they would place lower in the race, possibly not at all. It is important to know when to back off though, because violation of G24 is a red card.

Erik Huang 09-01-2011 17:11

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nighterfighter (Post 994309)
It is?

So that means that I couldn't pin another robot against a wall for 5 seconds during the end of the game, thus preventing them from having enough time to get to, and line up with, the tower?

2 things; if your alliance partner doesn't have a minibot, can you pin the opponent for 5 seconds, back off, then have your alliance partner pin immediately after? is the pinning rule only for one robot or the whole alliance?

also, since there are 4 poles, let's say the first three to the top were from your alliance; is that even possible and if so, would that mean 65 points?

GaryVoshol 09-01-2011 17:18

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik Huang (Post 994753)
since there are 4 poles, let's say the first three to the top were from your alliance; is that even possible and if so, would that mean 65 points?

Each alliance "owns" two of the poles. You can only touch and score on your own pole.

darist 09-01-2011 21:33

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
I saw the thing about each alliance only having two towers, but I didn't see it specified as to which two towers they are.

Which two towers belong to the red alliance? Where is that specified in the manual?

Thanks!

Robert103 09-01-2011 21:47

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
Section 2.2.5 in The Arena:
TOWERS are located near the mid-field end of each LANE and are owned by the ALLIANCE associated with the LANE in which it is located (i.e. the TOWER intersecting the red LANE is owned by the red ALLIANCE).

Jimmy Nichols 13-01-2011 12:48

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
OFF-Topic:

Is anyone else bothered by the name of the thread. Since when do we refer to our opponent's as enemies?

Sean Raia 13-01-2011 12:57

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols (Post 999078)
OFF-Topic:

Is anyone else bothered by the name of the thread. Since we do we refer to our opponent's as enemies?

Enemy can be defined as an adversary or opponent.
So i guess you could say "we" do that when "we" use synonyms.

Jimmy Nichols 13-01-2011 14:17

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Raia (Post 999088)
Enemy can be defined as an adversary or opponent.
So i guess you could say we do that when we use synonyms.

We discourage our students from using that term. In our minds we see that term as derogatory. Just something that we do with our students, not saying it is right or wrong.

From Websters.com

Definition of ENEMY
1: one that is antagonistic to another; especially : one seeking to injure, overthrow, or confound an opponent
2: something harmful or deadly <alcohol was his greatest enemy>
3a : a military adversary b : a hostile unit or force

royal robotics 13-01-2011 14:41

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
off topic!!!!!!!!

thx all this made my day so much brighter:p ;) :D :cool: :]

Alan Anderson 13-01-2011 15:18

Re: Blocking enemy mini-bots?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Nichols (Post 999144)
We discourage our students from using that term. In our minds we see that term as derogatory. Just something that we do with our students, not saying it is right or wrong.

I've always told people that other FRC teams are not our enemies. They are our rivals. We don't work to make them lose. We work to make us better.


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