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Team 2016 09-01-2011 16:23

Programming Minibot
 
Is there any language we have to use to program the minibot?:eek:

Dustin Shadbolt 09-01-2011 16:35

Re: Programming Minibot
 
I do believe reading that you could use LabView or maybe easyC? Something like that. I'm kind of concerned with this also because I have never programmed outside of FRC and general programming.

2829ron 09-01-2011 16:36

Re: Programming Minibot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Team 2016 (Post 994681)
Is there any language we have to use to program the minibot?:eek:

It appears that if you use the NXT controller than you will be using a simplified version of Labview. Really simplified.

David
Team #2829

PSHRobotics 09-01-2011 18:26

Re: Programming Minibot
 
In regards to using LabView to program, this thread in the LabView section has some pretty decent discussion.

My post in that thread discusses how you could accomplish programming in LabView for FRC and FTC on the same computer:
Quote:

Originally Posted by PSHRobotics (Post 994609)
How would you manage to have the minibot continue up the pole once it is disconnected from the main robot?

Also, LabView is pretty popular for FTC. The FTC section on CD has several teams that use it, including mine.
Now what I'm worried about is access to the libraries for FTC and FRC at the same time. My team has tried to install (last season, not this season) FRC's LabView directly over the version for FTC. The install always failed over three labtops. We had to completely remove everything related to FTC's LabView before installing FRC's LabView. Hopefully this will not be too big of a problem because an "FTC Toolkit" is released to use with LabView which should contain all the libraries for FTC. You can get the Toolkit off of USFirst.org's FTC Programming section in the "LabView Resources" link." Tomorrow, I will try installing the ToolKit over this FRC's LabView and then try to compile our most recent FTC code. I will post any problems or successes here.

Note: kamocat has recently posted a response that for this year he has had no trouble installing FRC LabVIEW on laptops with the FTC LabVIEW.

JamesBrown 09-01-2011 19:05

Re: Programming Minibot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2829ron (Post 994705)
It appears that if you use the NXT controller than you will be using a simplified version of Labview. Really simplified.

David
Team #2829

You should be able to use any language you can use for FTC (Labview and RobotC) I believe.

Bill_B 09-01-2011 19:13

Re: Programming Minibot
 
I think that is why we were advised to make the acquaintance of FLL or FTC teams. They are familiar with programming the NXT for their respective seasons. Most of the FLL teams are done for the year, but I think FTC are still active. FLL teams are also harder to find.:)

There has been speculation about restrictions on programming language for the NXT. I will eventually scour the rules to find it. It's only needed after a climber minibot is built that needs an NXT.

vinnie 09-01-2011 23:05

Re: Programming Minibot
 
My team was thinking that we were going to use just a simple PIC. Does anyone know if that is against the rules because it isn't used by FTC teams?

Bill_B 09-01-2011 23:09

Re: Programming Minibot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vinnie (Post 995275)
My team was thinking that we were going to use just a simple PIC. Does anyone know if that is against the rules because it isn't used by FTC teams?

::rtm:: PIC not included in allowable MINBOT parts. AFAIK ::rtm::

A Tech 11-01-2011 00:46

Re: Programming Minibot
 
I LOVE THE NXT!!! :o i have one myself. so how exactly do we program it?

bcootner 11-01-2011 16:33

Re: Programming Minibot
 
Can't we just use the FLL NXT-G Mindstorm program that comes with the device? It's a really simple version of Labview

Tiny Tim 11-01-2011 17:04

Re: Programming Minibot
 
There has been no word that I know of that says you have to use a certain program though I think if you use LabView it will be easier.

Al Skierkiewicz 11-01-2011 17:08

Re: Programming Minibot
 
There are a variety of languages that can be used for the NXT. It is highly recommended you find an FTC team for help. There is a "Find teams in my area" on the First website to help in your search.

cooldude8181 11-01-2011 17:24

Re: Programming Minibot
 
Why would you program the Mini-bot?

Everyone knows that code just adds excessive weight.

PAR_WIG1350 11-01-2011 18:40

Re: Programming Minibot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cooldude8181 (Post 997135)
Why would you program the Mini-bot?

Everyone knows that code just adds excessive weight.

I don't think the scales are accurate enough for a few million electrons to make a difference. Also, The FTC languages are NXT-G, Labview, and RobotC.

jshkish 11-01-2011 19:12

Re: Programming Minibot
 
OK..... first the programming language does not matter.... but team 931 my team is not going to program it we are gonna use household switches..


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