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caincteam2777 09-01-2011 23:10

Telescoping System
 
I've been working on developing a telescoping system for my teams robot. I planned on using some t-slot aluminum (80/20?), does anyone have designs they wouldn't mind sharing or idea on how to develop one? I've searched around without much luck.

Also where is a good place to buy some T-slot tubing?

Matt H. 09-01-2011 23:25

Re: Telescoping System
 
Regarding the second part of your question: 80/20 inc. has a supplier look up:
http://www.8020.net/PostalLookup.asp

Grim Tuesday 09-01-2011 23:26

Re: Telescoping System
 
In 2007, SPARX had a great telescoper.

We use McmasterCarr for our T-Slot needs.

artdutra04 09-01-2011 23:28

Re: Telescoping System
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by caincteam2777 (Post 995282)
I've been working on developing a telescoping system for my teams robot. I planned on using some t-slot aluminum (80/20?), does anyone have designs they wouldn't mind sharing or idea on how to develop one? I've searched around without much luck.

Also where is a good place to buy some T-slot tubing?

Our 2007 robot used a 2-stage (more like 1.5 stage) 80/20 telescoping elevator using the 80/20 linear glide pieces. Here's a link to all our photos from the 2007 season:

http://team228.org/media/pictures/2007

And a few photos of the system:


This photo shows the elevator when it was still powered by two Globe motors, but we later switched it out for a 3" CIM.





You can look on the 80/20 website to find distributors near you. The local distributors are usually very helpful and usually give a 10% discount to FIRST teams.

Grim Tuesday 09-01-2011 23:39

Re: Telescoping System
 
Thanks a ton artdutra!

Can you explain how the "cart" rises up the "ladder"?

Is it pulleyed? Or is it propelled by that huge gear?

I also don't really get how the second stage of the arm rises (or is it technically the first stage?)

EDIT: With no height limit this year, what is the advantage of a dual stage arm over just one really tall but well supported single stage one.

caincteam2777 09-01-2011 23:45

Re: Telescoping System
 
artdutra: thats the approach i was going for, it was just how the slider worked and how i would use pulleys to make it slide up and down

the taller you make something the more top heavy it will become. think of it like a cheater bar. the longer you make something the easier it is to say move/turn it. so the taller you make the bot the easier it becomes for it to tip over

artdutra04 10-01-2011 00:31

Re: Telescoping System
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim Tuesday (Post 995347)
Thanks a ton artdutra!

Can you explain how the "cart" rises up the "ladder"?

Is it pulleyed? Or is it propelled by that huge gear?

I also don't really get how the second stage of the arm rises (or is it technically the first stage?)

EDIT: With no height limit this year, what is the advantage of a dual stage arm over just one really tall but well supported single stage one.

Check out this white paper from Andy Baker (of AndyMark):

http://d1pytrrjwm20z9.cloudfront.net...atorDesign.pdf

It explains more about various mechanism types (including elevator) and shows the two styles of elevator (continuous versus cascade). Our 2007 robot used the cascade approach.

caincteam2777 10-01-2011 20:56

Re: Telescoping System
 
I am having trouble finding sliding mechanisms

DonRotolo 10-01-2011 21:23

Re: Telescoping System
 
Look for "Linear Motion" on the 80/20 web site. For example Page 497 of their catalog.

Jeff Rodriguez 10-01-2011 21:37

Re: Telescoping System
 
RAGE's 2005 arm is worth a look:
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/20545


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