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prometheus 11-01-2011 11:37

Arm Tips
 
This is a question for the veteran teams out there, or anyone who has had some success with an electric arm. How did you keep it in place once you got it where you wanted it? Did you balance it some way? What kind of gear box did you use?

Kevin Sevcik 11-01-2011 11:54

Re: Arm Tips
 
There's 3 basic methods for keeping an actuator stationary against a constant load (ie. gravity):
1. Counterweight/balance. Balance the force you don't like with an opposing one from springs, weights, etc. For a pivoted arm, you could put a spring or weight on the opposite side of the pivot.
2. Anti-backdrive transmission. Certain styles of transmissions are good at transmitting torque from the input to the output and REALLY bad at transmitting torque from the output to the input. Think of them as one-way streets for torque. So the motor on the input can move the arm, but the arm isn't going to move the motor, and thus the arm isn't going to move on its own. Worm-drives are good at this. Many drills have a system like this that locks the drill chuck when you try to turn it, letting you loosen a keyless chuck. The window lift motors (I'm nearly certain) also have this style of transmission.
3. Feedback control. You put a sensor (typically a potentiometer) on the joint you want to control. Then you have the CRIO compare the position of the sensor with the position you command the arm to be in, and power the motor accordingly. This can actually work in concert with the previous two methods to sharply fine-tune the position you want the actuator to hold.

Your ultimate solution is going to be up to you, obviously. If you're looking for anti-backdrive transmission besides the window lift motor, the Nothing But Dewalts white-paper tells you how to stick a Fisher-Price motor into a Dewalt drill, getting you both a nice reduction, selectable speeds, and an anti-backdrive mechanism. It's a little dated at this point, but I think most of it is still valid.

pfreivald 11-01-2011 12:03

Re: Arm Tips
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prometheus (Post 996758)
This is a question for the veteran teams out there, or anyone who has had some success with an electric arm. How did you keep it in place once you got it where you wanted it? Did you balance it some way? What kind of gear box did you use?

Motor driven arms can be held in place by the worm gear (in the case of the window motors), but this does carry some risk to the worm gear. The same can be said for any setup with at least some friction and a really big gear ratio -- sufficient gear ratio might be enough for the friction to hold the load in place (depending on a lot of factors, of course).

Otherwise, you could use a ratcheting system, or be content to float a bit around the optimum position with software control.


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