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Frenchie461 12-01-2011 13:05

No stored energy!?
 
I was just reading the team update, and the change to <G19> disallows stored energy mechinisms, correct?

viperred396 12-01-2011 13:09

Re: No stored energy!?
 
Correct!

You can find alot more dicussion about that here
http://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/sh...threadid=88835

EricH 12-01-2011 13:12

Re: No stored energy!?
 
Actually, partially correct.

You have to store the energy after deployment, or use the stored energy for latching onto the pole. But other than those two cases, yes.

CrazyCarl461 12-01-2011 13:15

Re: No stored energy!?
 
Yes, but the energy stored after deployment still has to be generated by the Tetrix motors, so if you are maximizing their power output already it is far less useful. The take-home message is that the only energy that can be used for climbing at all is energy generated by the two Tetrix motors after DEPLOYMENT has finished.

Alan Anderson 12-01-2011 14:09

Re: No stored energy!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCarl461 (Post 998055)
The take-home message is that the only energy that can be used for climbing at all is energy generated by the two Tetrix motors after DEPLOYMENT has finished.

<G19> doesn't say "after DEPLOYMENT has finished". It just says "after DEPLOYMENT". That gives a little bit of room for interpretation, perhaps leaving open the possibility of saving up some energy in a spring after DEPLOYMENT has started and before the MINIBOT goes on its way.

Andy A. 12-01-2011 14:28

Re: No stored energy!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Anderson (Post 998112)
<G19> doesn't say "after DEPLOYMENT has finished". It just says "after DEPLOYMENT". That gives a little bit of room for interpretation, perhaps leaving open the possibility of saving up some energy in a spring after DEPLOYMENT has started and before the MINIBOT goes on its way.

This is true, but you are rapidly approaching the area where one ref will allow it and another won't.

Tread carefully when peering between the lines of the rules! I'm looking at a way of spinning up the motors during deployment, ala an old fashioned gyroscope, but I'm pretty on the fence about that being legal. I certainly won't bet the farm on it...

Lil' Lavery 12-01-2011 15:06

Re: No stored energy!?
 
There is an obvious amendment to the OP's statement that nobody has directly and bluntly noted. It disallows stored energy on the minibot that is used to propel the minibot up the tower.

Stored energy can still be used for other functions on the minibot as well as anything you desire on the hostbot.

Should be taken for granted, but if someone was reading this thread hastily and out of context, who knows.

dodar 12-01-2011 15:08

Re: No stored energy!?
 
So, from that interpritation, you could use stored enegry to hold your minibot to the pole?

SteveGPage 12-01-2011 15:14

Re: No stored energy!?
 
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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 998159)

Stored energy can still be used for other functions on the minibot as well as anything you desire on the hostbot.

Could we use it to play that Super Mario song when he goes up the flag pole?

;)

EricH 12-01-2011 15:15

Re: No stored energy!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dodar (Post 998162)
So, from that interpritation, you could use stored enegry to hold your minibot to the pole?

Wouldn't be that hard to devise a device to do that. And yes. Think a surgical-tubing spring that locks onto the pole when a device was triggered.

Tim Delles 12-01-2011 15:16

Re: No stored energy!?
 
Simple question... Who here is thinking of going outside of the 12x12x12 box that your minibot is allowed to be in? If so... good luck! :)

I just want to remind teams that there is a size limitation, and no where in the rules does it state that the robot may go outside of this size limitation.


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