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Dr Theta 12-01-2011 22:52

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Agreed, shortly after posting I realized the same possibility, though I do believe scoring in such a manner will be rare.

Brandon_L 14-01-2011 15:58

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One last question:
what do the coopertition points do? I'm pretty sure last year they somehow affected your rankings. This year I can't find any info on it and it seems the only benefit of sharing a minibot is for the coopertition award?

Koko Ed 14-01-2011 17:33

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Originally Posted by GaryVoshol (Post 998609)
Only if the other teams choose to use it, and it scores.

I don't think teams will benefit from loaning out their robot like they think they will.
Lots of teams struggle simply using their own robot. I can't see teams who use another teams robot scoring with them because they haven't had enough time to learn how to use it properly.

Brandon_L 14-01-2011 17:42

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1000109)
I don't think teams will benefit from loaning out their robot like they think they will.
Lots of teams struggle simply using their own robot. I can't see teams who use another teams robot scoring with them because they haven't had enough time to learn how to use it properly.

Unless its planned ahead.

nighterfighter 14-01-2011 17:58

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Originally Posted by Brandon_L (Post 1000117)
Unless its planned ahead.

I agree. I think the only way teams will get a lot of Coopertition points this year, besides blind luck, is if they design with each other and plan it...

Doesn't that defeat the point of coopertition then?

keericks 14-01-2011 18:09

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Originally Posted by Brandon_L (Post 1000098)
One last question:
what do the coopertition points do? I'm pretty sure last year they somehow affected your rankings. This year I can't find any info on it and it seems the only benefit of sharing a minibot is for the coopertition award?

I had the same question as I poured over the rules for the rankings and searched the Tournament document for the word Coopertition - nothing. Then as I looked at the Awards document I noticed there is a single Coopertition award given to the team with most cooperition points at the end of the event. That seems to be the only result for gaining CP's - other than being a cool team that's helping out of course!:)

Brandon_L 14-01-2011 18:11

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Originally Posted by keericks (Post 1000141)
I had the same question as a poured over the rules for the rankings and searched the Tournament document for the word Coopertition - nothing. Then as I looked at the Awards document I noticed there is a single Coopertition award given to the team with most cooperition points at the end of the event. That seems to be the only result for gaining CP's - other than being a cool team that's helping out of course!:)

So that's it?

It would be something cool to do but I really thought it helped somehow..

Koko Ed 14-01-2011 18:17

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Originally Posted by Brandon_L (Post 1000117)
Unless its planned ahead.

You mean like weeks ahead?
A few runs on the practice field before the match probably won't help all that much.

Brandon_L 14-01-2011 19:24

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1000147)
You mean like weeks ahead?
A few runs on the practice field before the match probably won't help all that much.

Think even earlier.

Koko Ed 14-01-2011 19:28

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Originally Posted by Brandon_L (Post 1000216)
Think even earlier.

Kickoff is weeks earlier.

Brandon_L 14-01-2011 19:44

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1000220)
Kickoff is weeks earlier.

After that xD

We might have a total of 3 teams working together to make the same exact minibot

Koko Ed 14-01-2011 19:56

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Originally Posted by Brandon_L (Post 1000235)
After that xD

We might have a total of 3 teams working together to make the same exact minibot

That sounds more like a collaborative effort than making a robot to loan out to other teams to use in other matches.
What I'm thinking of is the team that you don't know who does not have a minibot. those teams cannot be relied on for points because they are not going to know what to do most likely.

Brandon_L 14-01-2011 20:01

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1000244)
That sounds more like a collaborative effort than making a robot to loan out to other teams to use in other matches.
What I'm thinking of is the team that you don't know who does not have a minibot. those teams cannot be relied on for points because they are not going to know what to do most likely.

Thats how it started out, but now we might each make one, exactly the same, and rotate them. Team A gets team C's bot, B gets C's, C gets A's for the entire event.

Koko Ed 14-01-2011 20:08

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Originally Posted by Brandon_L (Post 1000245)
Thats how it started out, but now we might each make one, exactly the same, and rotate them. Team A gets team C's bot, B gets C's, C gets A's for the entire event.

But how would they be able to tell whos robot is whos?
I don't think when they came up with the Coopertition points they had in mind teams doing that.

Brandon_L 14-01-2011 20:41

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Originally Posted by Koko Ed (Post 1000249)
But how would they be able to tell whos robot is whos?
I don't think when they came up with the Coopertition points they had in mind teams doing that.

I saw a problem with that from the beginning. Even if another team is just using it for a match, on your alliance, how do they know?? Should I/someone Q&A this?


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